Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-07 Thread Damien Sandras
Le mercredi 06 juin 2007 à 20:05 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit :

[...]

> > > We need to either get updated pwlib/opal tarballs, or downgrade ekiga
> > > temporarily.  Actually, I think I switched jhbuild to just build ekiga
> > > from tarballs precisely due to this super-strict pwlib & opal version
> > > dependency issue.  Maybe that should just be reflected in the wiki,
> > > with the understanding that it can and will update quite often?
> >
> > I plan to provide up to date tarballs of OPAL and PWLIB for the stable
> > branch of Ekiga (I am actually doing it).
> >
> > However, the unstable branch of Ekiga (ie SVN Trunk) depends on the
> > unstable branch of PWLIB and OPAL (ie CVS HEAD) for which there are
> > rarely tarballs.
> >
> > I will do what you will suggest.
> 
> Is there any way you can fix your dependencies to be e.g., opal >=
> OPAL_REQUIRED rather than opal == OPAL_REQUIRED?  That would be the
> optimal fix.
> 

I can do that, but OPAL and PWLIB's API changes between different major
versions. 

So trying to compile Ekiga 2.0.x against CVS HEAD of OPAL and PWLIB
won't work and compiling Ekiga SVN against lower versions of OPAL and
PWLIB is not a good idea either, because in that case, people complain
of bugs that are in the libs and not in Ekia.

> Alternatively, if you could get unstable opal and pwlib tarballs
> uploaded and hopefully rolled more often (whenever ekiga needs
> something newer), that would at least allow us a path forward using
> ekiga trunk, though the '>=' thing would be a far better solution.

I will ask on the Ekiga mailing list if somebody can do it to help.

(The problem is not my unwilling to upload those tarballs, but it
consumes time, and I don't have much spare time anymore so I prefer
devoting it to coding.)
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Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-06 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/4/07, Damien Sandras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 23:19 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit :
> > On 6/2/07, Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
> > > > Current
> > > > PWLIB: 1.10.7
> > > > OPAL:  2.2.8
> > > >
> > > > Suggested
> > > > PWLIB: 1.11.3
> > > > OPAL:  2.3.2
> > >
> > > It seems[1] that latest released packages are 1.11.1 and 2.3.1 :-(
> > >
> > > [1] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80674
> >
> > As of a little while ago, Damien had agreed to upload recent opal and
> > pwlib tarballs to ftp.gnome.org (see
> > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/opal/2.2/ and
> > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pwlib/1.10/).  That works a lot
> > better than sourceforge for us.  So the 'latest' packages for us are
> > actually earlier than that.
> >
> > We need to either get updated pwlib/opal tarballs, or downgrade ekiga
> > temporarily.  Actually, I think I switched jhbuild to just build ekiga
> > from tarballs precisely due to this super-strict pwlib & opal version
> > dependency issue.  Maybe that should just be reflected in the wiki,
> > with the understanding that it can and will update quite often?
>
> I plan to provide up to date tarballs of OPAL and PWLIB for the stable
> branch of Ekiga (I am actually doing it).
>
> However, the unstable branch of Ekiga (ie SVN Trunk) depends on the
> unstable branch of PWLIB and OPAL (ie CVS HEAD) for which there are
> rarely tarballs.
>
> I will do what you will suggest.

Is there any way you can fix your dependencies to be e.g., opal >=
OPAL_REQUIRED rather than opal == OPAL_REQUIRED?  That would be the
optimal fix.

Alternatively, if you could get unstable opal and pwlib tarballs
uploaded and hopefully rolled more often (whenever ekiga needs
something newer), that would at least allow us a path forward using
ekiga trunk, though the '>=' thing would be a far better solution.

Thanks Damien!

Elijah
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Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-04 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 23:19 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit :
> On 6/2/07, Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
> > > Current
> > > PWLIB: 1.10.7
> > > OPAL:  2.2.8
> > >
> > > Suggested
> > > PWLIB: 1.11.3
> > > OPAL:  2.3.2
> >
> > It seems[1] that latest released packages are 1.11.1 and 2.3.1 :-(
> >
> > [1] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80674
> 
> As of a little while ago, Damien had agreed to upload recent opal and
> pwlib tarballs to ftp.gnome.org (see
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/opal/2.2/ and
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pwlib/1.10/).  That works a lot
> better than sourceforge for us.  So the 'latest' packages for us are
> actually earlier than that.
> 
> We need to either get updated pwlib/opal tarballs, or downgrade ekiga
> temporarily.  Actually, I think I switched jhbuild to just build ekiga
> from tarballs precisely due to this super-strict pwlib & opal version
> dependency issue.  Maybe that should just be reflected in the wiki,
> with the understanding that it can and will update quite often?

I plan to provide up to date tarballs of OPAL and PWLIB for the stable
branch of Ekiga (I am actually doing it).

However, the unstable branch of Ekiga (ie SVN Trunk) depends on the
unstable branch of PWLIB and OPAL (ie CVS HEAD) for which there are
rarely tarballs.

I will do what you will suggest. 
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Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/2/07, Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
> > Current
> > PWLIB: 1.10.7
> > OPAL:  2.2.8
> >
> > Suggested
> > PWLIB: 1.11.3
> > OPAL:  2.3.2
>
> It seems[1] that latest released packages are 1.11.1 and 2.3.1 :-(
>
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80674

As of a little while ago, Damien had agreed to upload recent opal and
pwlib tarballs to ftp.gnome.org (see
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/opal/2.2/ and
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pwlib/1.10/).  That works a lot
better than sourceforge for us.  So the 'latest' packages for us are
actually earlier than that.

We need to either get updated pwlib/opal tarballs, or downgrade ekiga
temporarily.  Actually, I think I switched jhbuild to just build ekiga
from tarballs precisely due to this super-strict pwlib & opal version
dependency issue.  Maybe that should just be reflected in the wiki,
with the understanding that it can and will update quite often?
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Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
> Current
> PWLIB: 1.10.7
> OPAL:  2.2.8 
> 
> Suggested
> PWLIB: 1.11.3
> OPAL:  2.3.2

It seems[1] that latest released packages are 1.11.1 and 2.3.1 :-( 

[1] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80674

> Reason:
> As per http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/Desktop, GNOME
> 2.20 should provide Ekiga "trunk". Ekiga "trunk" needs those
> versions.
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