Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Christophe Fergeau]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 06:55:39PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Christophe Fergeau  wrote:
> > Given the amount of projects asking for devrooms, I suspect this is
> > going to be hard. The FOSDEM organizers asked us to merge the devrooms
> > for a reason. We already only have this shared devroom only for a day.
> 
> Yeah I understand that but I'm wondering if they could be persuaded
> not to treat all applying projects equally and give more room and time
> to projects that are more popular/bigger.

GNOME does get more room than most projects in the sense that the
desktops devroom is in a 100+ room (and there are only a few such
rooms). Many projects do get rooms with far less seats.

> I didn't want to say bad of any projects in particular here but I feel
> I have to give an example, to make my point so I'll mention one that I
> actually love: Guile.  Given that there is a handful of people who use
> Guile (or even Scheme in general), I really don't see why it should be
> given the same amount of room/time as GNOME and KDE.

It's their first time at FOSDEM, so it's nice that they get a devroom
:) I expect they'll get a small room. A 40 seats devroom would probably
not very useful to GNOME. I expect it's the same for most smaller
projects, the devrooms they get would be too small for us. I did not
look who got 100+ rooms last year, but I'd expect they all are fairly
popular projects (Mozilla, virtualization, maybe embedded, ...)

Christophe


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Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Christophe Fergeau  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:45:59PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> Hi Christophe,
>>
>> While I greatly appreciate your (and of everyone involved) voluntary
>> work on organising the devroom, I really wish we did not put all these
>> big projects into one devroom for just one day. Is there any way we
>> could get GNOME its own devroom (even for a day) in FOSDEM 2017?
>
> Given the amount of projects asking for devrooms, I suspect this is
> going to be hard. The FOSDEM organizers asked us to merge the devrooms
> for a reason. We already only have this shared devroom only for a day.

Yeah I understand that but I'm wondering if they could be persuaded
not to treat all applying projects equally and give more room and time
to projects that are more popular/bigger. I didn't want to say bad of
any projects in particular here but I feel I have to give an example,
to make my point so I'll mention one that I actually love: Guile.
Given that there is a handful of people who use Guile (or even Scheme
in general), I really don't see why it should be given the same amount
of room/time as GNOME and KDE.

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)

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Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Sébastien Wilmet]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 06:55:39PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Yeah I understand that but I'm wondering if they could be persuaded
> not to treat all applying projects equally and give more room and time
> to projects that are more popular/bigger. I didn't want to say bad of
> any projects in particular here but I feel I have to give an example,
> to make my point so I'll mention one that I actually love: Guile.
> Given that there is a handful of people who use Guile (or even Scheme
> in general), I really don't see why it should be given the same amount
> of room/time as GNOME and KDE.

The bigger and more popular projects usually have their own conferences
as well. FOSDEM is a place for developers to meet and share ideas, and
the smaller projects benefit from the infrastructure and organization.
For some projects FOSDEM is the only place in Europe where developers
meet, so it's normal to give them more time for talks.

(or the developers of the smaller projects are friends with the
organizers)

Sébastien
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Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)]

Hi Christophe,

While I greatly appreciate your (and of everyone involved) voluntary
work on organising the devroom, I really wish we did not put all these
big projects into one devroom for just one day. Is there any way we
could get GNOME it's own devroom (even for a day) in FOSDEM 2017?

Thanks again for organising the devroom!

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Christophe Fergeau  wrote:
> Just a few more days to go, deadline is on December 6th. If you haven't
> submitted your proposal yet, now is the time!
>
> Christophe
>
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>> FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation
>>
>> FOSDEM is one of the largest gatherings of Free Software contributors in
>> the world and happens each February in Brussels (Belgium, Europe). One of
>> the tracks will be the Desktops DevRoom (formerly known as "CrossDesktop
>> DevRoom"), which will host Desktop-related talks.
>>
>> We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source
>> Software on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications and
>> interoperability amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique opportunity
>> to show novel ideas and developments to a wide technical audience.
>>
>> Topics accepted include, but are not limited to:
>>
>>- Open Desktops: Gnome, KDE, Unity, Enlightenment, XFCE, Razor, MATE,
>>Cinnamon, ReactOS, etc
>>
>>- Closed desktops: Windows, Mac OS X, CDE, MorphOS, etc (when talking
>>about a FLOSS topic)
>>
>>- Software development for the desktop
>>
>>- Development tools
>>
>>- Applications that enhance desktops
>>
>>- General desktop matters
>>
>>- Cross-platform software development
>>
>>- Web
>>
>>
>> Talks can be very specific, such as the advantages/disadvantages of
>> development with Qt on Wayland over X11/Mir; or as general as predictions
>> for the fusion of Desktop and web in 5 years time. Topics that are of
>> interest to the users and developers of all desktop environments are
>> especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2015 schedule[1] might give you some
>> inspiration.
>>
>>
>> Submissions
>>
>> Please include the following information when submitting a proposal:
>>
>>- Your name
>>
>>- The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be
>>listed with around 400 from other projects)
>>
>>- Short abstract of one or two paragraphs
>>
>>- Short bio (with photo)
>>
>>- Requested time: from 15 to 45 minutes. Normal duration is 30 minutes.
>>Longer duration requests must be properly justified. You may be assigned
>>LESS time than you request.
>>
>>
>> How to submit
>>
>> All submissions are made in the Pentabarf event planning tool:
>>
>> https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16
>>
>> When submitting your talk, make sure to select the "Desktops" devroom as
>> the "Track". Otherwise your talk will not be even considered for any
>> devroom.
>>
>> If you already have a Pentabarf account from a previous year, even if your
>> talk was not accepted, please reuse it. Create an account if, and only if,
>> you don't have one from a previous year. If you have any issues with
>> Pentabarf, please contact pgquiles at elpauer dot org.
>>
>>
>> Deadline
>>
>> The deadline for submissions is December 6th 2015.
>>
>> FOSDEM will be held on the weekend of January 30th and 31st 2015 and the
>> Desktops DevRoom will take place on Sunday, January 31st 2015.
>>
>> We will contact every submitter with a "yes" or "no" before December 18th
>> 2015.
>>
>>
>> Recording permission
>>
>> The talks in the Desktops devroom will be audio and video recorded, and
>> possibly streamed live too.
>>
>> By submitting a proposal you consent to be recorded and agree to license
>> the content of your talk under a Creative Commons (CC-BY) license.
>>
>> If you want us to stop the recording in the Q & A part (should you have
>> one), please tell us. We can do that but only for the Q & A part.
>>
>>
>> More information
>>
>> The official communication channel for the Desktops DevRoom is its mailing
>> list desktops-devr...@lists.fosdem.org.
>>
>> Use this page to manage your subscription:
>>
>> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/desktops-devroom
>>
>>
>> Organization
>>
>> The Desktops DevRoom 2016 is managed by a team representing the most
>> notable open desktops:
>>
>>
>>- Pau Garcia i Quiles, KDE
>>
>>- Christophe Fergeau, Gnome
>>
>>- Michael Zanetti, Unity
>>
>>- Philippe Caseiro, Enlightenment
>>
>>- Jérome Leclanche, Razor
>>
>>
>> If you want to join the team, please contact pgquiles at elpauer dot org
>
>
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Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Christophe Fergeau]

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:45:59PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Hi Christophe,
> 
> While I greatly appreciate your (and of everyone involved) voluntary
> work on organising the devroom, I really wish we did not put all these
> big projects into one devroom for just one day. Is there any way we
> could get GNOME its own devroom (even for a day) in FOSDEM 2017?

Given the amount of projects asking for devrooms, I suspect this is
going to be hard. The FOSDEM organizers asked us to merge the devrooms
for a reason. We already only have this shared devroom only for a day.

Christophe


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Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation

[Christophe Fergeau]

Just a few more days to go, deadline is on December 6th. If you haven't
submitted your proposal yet, now is the time!

Christophe

On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation
> 
> FOSDEM is one of the largest gatherings of Free Software contributors in
> the world and happens each February in Brussels (Belgium, Europe). One of
> the tracks will be the Desktops DevRoom (formerly known as "CrossDesktop
> DevRoom"), which will host Desktop-related talks.
> 
> We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source
> Software on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications and
> interoperability amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique opportunity
> to show novel ideas and developments to a wide technical audience.
> 
> Topics accepted include, but are not limited to:
> 
>- Open Desktops: Gnome, KDE, Unity, Enlightenment, XFCE, Razor, MATE,
>Cinnamon, ReactOS, etc
> 
>- Closed desktops: Windows, Mac OS X, CDE, MorphOS, etc (when talking
>about a FLOSS topic)
> 
>- Software development for the desktop
> 
>- Development tools
> 
>- Applications that enhance desktops
> 
>- General desktop matters
> 
>- Cross-platform software development
> 
>- Web
> 
> 
> Talks can be very specific, such as the advantages/disadvantages of
> development with Qt on Wayland over X11/Mir; or as general as predictions
> for the fusion of Desktop and web in 5 years time. Topics that are of
> interest to the users and developers of all desktop environments are
> especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2015 schedule[1] might give you some
> inspiration.
> 
> 
> Submissions
> 
> Please include the following information when submitting a proposal:
> 
>- Your name
> 
>- The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be
>listed with around 400 from other projects)
> 
>- Short abstract of one or two paragraphs
> 
>- Short bio (with photo)
> 
>- Requested time: from 15 to 45 minutes. Normal duration is 30 minutes.
>Longer duration requests must be properly justified. You may be assigned
>LESS time than you request.
> 
> 
> How to submit
> 
> All submissions are made in the Pentabarf event planning tool:
> 
> https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16
> 
> When submitting your talk, make sure to select the "Desktops" devroom as
> the "Track". Otherwise your talk will not be even considered for any
> devroom.
> 
> If you already have a Pentabarf account from a previous year, even if your
> talk was not accepted, please reuse it. Create an account if, and only if,
> you don't have one from a previous year. If you have any issues with
> Pentabarf, please contact pgquiles at elpauer dot org.
> 
> 
> Deadline
> 
> The deadline for submissions is December 6th 2015.
> 
> FOSDEM will be held on the weekend of January 30th and 31st 2015 and the
> Desktops DevRoom will take place on Sunday, January 31st 2015.
> 
> We will contact every submitter with a "yes" or "no" before December 18th
> 2015.
> 
> 
> Recording permission
> 
> The talks in the Desktops devroom will be audio and video recorded, and
> possibly streamed live too.
> 
> By submitting a proposal you consent to be recorded and agree to license
> the content of your talk under a Creative Commons (CC-BY) license.
> 
> If you want us to stop the recording in the Q & A part (should you have
> one), please tell us. We can do that but only for the Q & A part.
> 
> 
> More information
> 
> The official communication channel for the Desktops DevRoom is its mailing
> list desktops-devr...@lists.fosdem.org.
> 
> Use this page to manage your subscription:
> 
> https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/desktops-devroom
> 
> 
> Organization
> 
> The Desktops DevRoom 2016 is managed by a team representing the most
> notable open desktops:
> 
> 
>- Pau Garcia i Quiles, KDE
> 
>- Christophe Fergeau, Gnome
> 
>- Michael Zanetti, Unity
> 
>- Philippe Caseiro, Enlightenment
> 
>- Jérome Leclanche, Razor
> 
> 
> If you want to join the team, please contact pgquiles at elpauer dot org



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