Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Hashem Nasarat via desktop-devel-list]

There's also https://github.com/indie-mirror/gnomit !

Crowded namespace!

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 6:04 PM Hashem Nasarat  wrote:

>
> GNOME Git seems pretty reasonable. I'm not sure there's a large
> discoverability issue with "gitg" though. It shows up when I search "git"
> in GNOME Software...
> I don't know if we have a policy for "gnome front-ends to existing third
> party tools", but there's already a small precedence with
> https://github.com/vinszent/gnome-twitch#-gnome-twitch
>
> (Too bad https://github.com/bahmutov/ggit is a thing.)
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:50 PM Alberto Fanjul Alonso via
> desktop-devel-list  wrote:
>
>> Seing https://git-scm.com/downloads/guis and asumming  GNOME is a
>> desktop environment (GUI is supposed) maybe GNOME Git Tool, but tool is
>> little redundant here, that's why looking for something that this git GUI
>> Tool can do. Maybe GNOME Git Commits as it shows them (history) and creates
>> them.
>>
>> El mié., 10 oct. 2018 a las 23:26, Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list (<
>> desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>) escribió:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2018-10-10 at 08:34 +0200, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote:
>>> > On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm used to gitk (which uses Qt, if I'm not mistaken). The gitg always
>>> meant to me a gtk+ variant "of the same". I never looked for the real
>>> reasoning behind the name (which you gave earlier).
>>>
>>> Can it work with anything else than git? I do commit to svn, I used to
>>> commit to cvs as well. There are several other version systems where
>>> users can "commit" their changes. I mean, "GNOME Commits" is too
>>> generic, too vague. "GNOME git viewer" might be more accurate, but not
>>> that fancy. I surely would not get rid of the 'git' word, especially
>>> when it's the only version system it can work with. When searching for
>>> 'git' in repositories, it would be nice to have git itself and "the
>>> viewer" shown together.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> Bye,
>>> Milan
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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Hashem Nasarat via desktop-devel-list]

GNOME Git seems pretty reasonable. I'm not sure there's a large
discoverability issue with "gitg" though. It shows up when I search "git"
in GNOME Software...
I don't know if we have a policy for "gnome front-ends to existing third
party tools", but there's already a small precedence with
https://github.com/vinszent/gnome-twitch#-gnome-twitch

(Too bad https://github.com/bahmutov/ggit is a thing.)

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:50 PM Alberto Fanjul Alonso via
desktop-devel-list  wrote:

> Seing https://git-scm.com/downloads/guis and asumming  GNOME is a desktop
> environment (GUI is supposed) maybe GNOME Git Tool, but tool is little
> redundant here, that's why looking for something that this git GUI Tool can
> do. Maybe GNOME Git Commits as it shows them (history) and creates them.
>
> El mié., 10 oct. 2018 a las 23:26, Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list (<
> desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>) escribió:
>
>> On Wed, 2018-10-10 at 08:34 +0200, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote:
>> > On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm used to gitk (which uses Qt, if I'm not mistaken). The gitg always
>> meant to me a gtk+ variant "of the same". I never looked for the real
>> reasoning behind the name (which you gave earlier).
>>
>> Can it work with anything else than git? I do commit to svn, I used to
>> commit to cvs as well. There are several other version systems where
>> users can "commit" their changes. I mean, "GNOME Commits" is too
>> generic, too vague. "GNOME git viewer" might be more accurate, but not
>> that fancy. I surely would not get rid of the 'git' word, especially
>> when it's the only version system it can work with. When searching for
>> 'git' in repositories, it would be nice to have git itself and "the
>> viewer" shown together.
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>> Bye,
>> Milan
>>
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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Alberto Fanjul Alonso via desktop-devel-list]

Seing https://git-scm.com/downloads/guis and asumming  GNOME is a desktop
environment (GUI is supposed) maybe GNOME Git Tool, but tool is little
redundant here, that's why looking for something that this git GUI Tool can
do. Maybe GNOME Git Commits as it shows them (history) and creates them.

El mié., 10 oct. 2018 a las 23:26, Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list (<
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>) escribió:

> On Wed, 2018-10-10 at 08:34 +0200, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote:
> > On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.
>
> Hi,
> I'm used to gitk (which uses Qt, if I'm not mistaken). The gitg always
> meant to me a gtk+ variant "of the same". I never looked for the real
> reasoning behind the name (which you gave earlier).
>
> Can it work with anything else than git? I do commit to svn, I used to
> commit to cvs as well. There are several other version systems where
> users can "commit" their changes. I mean, "GNOME Commits" is too
> generic, too vague. "GNOME git viewer" might be more accurate, but not
> that fancy. I surely would not get rid of the 'git' word, especially
> when it's the only version system it can work with. When searching for
> 'git' in repositories, it would be nice to have git itself and "the
> viewer" shown together.
>
> Just my opinion.
> Bye,
> Milan
>
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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Alexandre Franke]

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:26 PM Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list
 wrote:
> I'm used to gitk (which uses Qt, if I'm not mistaken).

gitk uses tk (as in Tcl/Tk). qgit uses Qt.

> Can it work with anything else than git?

No.

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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list]

On Wed, 2018-10-10 at 08:34 +0200, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote:
> On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.

Hi,
I'm used to gitk (which uses Qt, if I'm not mistaken). The gitg always
meant to me a gtk+ variant "of the same". I never looked for the real
reasoning behind the name (which you gave earlier).

Can it work with anything else than git? I do commit to svn, I used to
commit to cvs as well. There are several other version systems where
users can "commit" their changes. I mean, "GNOME Commits" is too
generic, too vague. "GNOME git viewer" might be more accurate, but not
that fancy. I surely would not get rid of the 'git' word, especially
when it's the only version system it can work with. When searching for
'git' in repositories, it would be nice to have git itself and "the
viewer" shown together.

Just my opinion.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Britt Yazel]

I'm fine with idea of giving it a fresh name. Gitg never really made sense
to me, though I never knew the reasoning behind it.

GNOME Commits might be clear to all people familiar with git, but for the
average user they might think it's an activist app or something. Or like a
charity app. This might not be a legitimate concern, just a thought

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 11:35 PM Alberto Fanjul Alonso 
wrote:

> On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.
>
> Same as nautilus is GNOME Files, we though that gitg (a joke around
> gitx and software which at some point in time use to have a G around to
> denote it is under GNOME) is not easy to locate for people looking for a
> git GUI viewer.
>
> We want to be sure that do not cause any problem downstream or in
> development.
>
> There's an open issue about that
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gitg/issues/138
>
> Side note: We are looking for a new icon, since now we use the one from
> git. Drafts on: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gitg/issues/137
>
> thoughs?
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Re: Renaming gitg project file to GNOME Commits

[Kalev Lember via desktop-devel-list]

On 10/10/2018 08:34 AM, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote:

On gitg we are considering to adopt GNOME Commits as project name.

Same as nautilus is GNOME Files, we though that gitg (a joke around 
gitx and software which at some point in time use to have a G around to 
denote it is under GNOME) is not easy to locate for people looking for a 
git GUI viewer.


We want to be sure that do not cause any problem downstream or in 
development.


There's an open issue about that 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gitg/issues/138


Side note: We are looking for a new icon, since now we use the one from 
git. Drafts on: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gitg/issues/137


thoughs?


With my downstream hat on, feel free to rename the visible name in the
UI and the desktop file and appdata etc, but please don't change the
project name from gitg, that just creates more work for downstreams.

Thanks,
Kalev
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Re: Renaming a project

[Sébastien Wilmet]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:22:56AM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Sébastien Wilmet  wrote:
> > - What to do about the git repo? Creating a new repo with the new name
> >   and placing the old one in the deprecated section?
> 
> I believe you can push the new git repo.
> 
> Remember to update jhbuild
> If your project was built by gnome-continuous (it doesn't look to me
> like it is), you'd want to update that too.
> 
> Then file a bug like this:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/769952

Great, I'll do the same.

> > - For the bugzilla product it's less important, especially if we move to
> >   GitLab.
> 
> There isn't as much of a need for a bugzilla redirect and you should
> be able to rename the bugzilla product yourself:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/editproducts.cgi?action=edit=gtef

Indeed, I'll try to rename the product there and see what happens.

Thanks for the information!

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Re: Renaming a project

[Jeremy Bicha]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Sébastien Wilmet  wrote:
> - What to do about the git repo? Creating a new repo with the new name
>   and placing the old one in the deprecated section?

I believe you can push the new git repo.

Remember to update jhbuild
If your project was built by gnome-continuous (it doesn't look to me
like it is), you'd want to update that too.

Then file a bug like this:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/769952

> - For the bugzilla product it's less important, especially if we move to
>   GitLab.

There isn't as much of a need for a bugzilla redirect and you should
be able to rename the bugzilla product yourself:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/editproducts.cgi?action=edit=gtef

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha
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Re: Renaming a project

[Emmanuele Bassi]

Hi;

On 7 September 2015 at 15:54, Pierre Wieser  wrote:

> Apart from renaming source files, components, built binaries, etc. what is 
> the process
> to rename a project regarding git.gnome.org ? I have not yet tried, but I may 
> suppose
> that top-level directory (aka project) creation is not opened to anyone ?

The usual process would be for you to create a new repository, called
file-manager-actions, and push the current contents of the
nautilus-actions repositories there; this will preserve the history,
and will allow people to keep pointing to the nautilus-actions
repository. At that point, you can replace all the contents of the
nautilus-actions repository with a README that points to the new
repository, or you can decide to leave the repository as it is, and
just add a deprecation notice in the existing README file.

After that, you can ask one of the system administrators to move the
nautilus-actions repository to the "attic", so that it's clear that
the old repository has been deprecated.

Ciao,
 Emmanuele.

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