Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[liberforce]

Le 2017-05-10 18:17, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit :

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:38 AM  wrote:
Agreed, I'm a big fan of this but I don't see a reason why it ought to 
be

a separate community from the existing Stack Overflow site.


At this point the moderator has closed our petition down.  I think this 
is
unfortunate, and I have mailed the moderator to figure out the 
rationale

behind the decision.

Stack Overflow is fine if we are just doing programming questions, but 
I
think we do want other questions on design and maybe asking about 
features

in GTK+ or GNOME for aspiring application writers.


There already are [gtk], [gnome], [user-interface], [user-experience] 
tags

on stackoverflow that are adressing most of the programming and design
questions. We often see questions about theming among others.

If some of the aspects of the community interaction you want are not 
covered by any
existing tag, then I suggest creating those tags on stackoverflow and 
advertising
them as an entry point for newcommers. This will avoid fragmention, and 
make the

GTK+/GNOME communities on stackoverflow stronger.

Cheers,
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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 09:30 -0400, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-
list wrote:
> Is there some public place that offer something similar as AskFedora
> to create a community for GNOME?
> I think one requirement for us is to not host it ourselves, and still
> be relevant.
> I guess that's why Sri choose Stackexchange. But I don't know other
> alternatives.

I'll just point at this:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastruct...@lists.fedo
raproject.org/message/6IWBLCCLAKLEGQCOGL3KADCJK4OGARQV/

Fedora has been using AskBot for some time, and it's proving painful to
host.

The main developer seems to be willing to help though, including with
providing hosting.


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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:38 AM  wrote:

> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:02 AM Tobias Mueller 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Mi, 2017-05-10 at 08:04 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> > Looks like if you want to do this, we'd have to host it
>> Or use Stackoverflow.
>> Sri's motivation was:
>>
>> > We need to have a search engine index-able library of knowledge on
>> > our platform.  Modern programmers today frequently use stackexchange
>> > and google to ask questions and to look for answers for questions.\
>>
>> I tend to think that Stackoverflow perfectly matches that.
>>
>
> Agreed, I'm a big fan of this but I don't see a reason why it ought to be
> a separate community from the existing Stack Overflow site.
>

At this point the moderator has closed our petition down.  I think this is
unfortunate, and I have mailed the moderator to figure out the rationale
behind the decision.

Stack Overflow is fine if we are just doing programming questions, but I
think we do want other questions on design and maybe asking about features
in GTK+ or GNOME for aspiring application writers.

So for now we are putting this on hold.

sri


> Regards,
> Philip C
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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[philip . chimento]

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:02 AM Tobias Mueller 
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> On Mi, 2017-05-10 at 08:04 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Looks like if you want to do this, we'd have to host it
> Or use Stackoverflow.
> Sri's motivation was:
>
> > We need to have a search engine index-able library of knowledge on
> > our platform.  Modern programmers today frequently use stackexchange
> > and google to ask questions and to look for answers for questions.\
>
> I tend to think that Stackoverflow perfectly matches that.
>

Agreed, I'm a big fan of this but I don't see a reason why it ought to be a
separate community from the existing Stack Overflow site.

Regards,
Philip C
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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mi, 2017-05-10 at 08:04 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Looks like if you want to do this, we'd have to host it
Or use Stackoverflow.
Sri's motivation was:

> We need to have a search engine index-able library of knowledge on
> our platform.  Modern programmers today frequently use stackexchange
> and google to ask questions and to look for answers for questions.\

I tend to think that Stackoverflow perfectly matches that.

Cheers,
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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list]

Is there some public place that offer something similar as AskFedora to create 
a community for GNOME?
I think one requirement for us is to not host it ourselves, and still be 
relevant.
I guess that's why Sri choose Stackexchange. But I don't know other 
alternatives.

Carlos Soriano

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And it's already closed as a duplicate of Stack Overflow.

Looks like if you want to do this, we'd have to host it using free
software like Ask Fedora does.

Michael

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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Michael Catanzaro]

And it's already closed as a duplicate of Stack Overflow.

Looks like if you want to do this, we'd have to host it using free 
software like Ask Fedora does.


Michael

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Re: Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[liberforce]

Hi Sri,

Le 2017-05-10 06:51, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit :
I'm creating a stackexchange community for the GNOME platform and the 
GTK+
toolkit.  I'm looking for help in subscribing to the forum and of 
course
some people who would be willing to answer questions.  We have three 
days
to build 5 followers and build about 5-10 questions that can be 
answered.
After that to get to the next phase, we will need 50 followers and 40 
good

questionsI have some folks who are also willing to monitor and answer
questions.

https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/109823/gtk-and-gnome?referrer=jPuOAsszR3FdMlqW5m8Y-A2

WHY:  We need to have a search engine index-able library of knowledge 
on
our platform.  Modern programmers today frequently use stackexchange 
and

google to ask questions and to look for answers for questions.

Today, questions are answered in mailing lists and irc.  Neither one 
are
search engine friendly and common questions are often repeated and 
their
answers not shared.  Let's build a persistent body of knowledge that 
people
can easily find and lower the bar of entry in writing applications in 
GNOME

or GTK+.


while I definitely agree stackexchange could be an answer to the 
frequently
asked questions problem, putting the GTK+ and GNOME together in there 
bothers

me a bit.

GTK+ already has many questions and answers on stackoverflow. Don't you
think adding a new communication channel would add a bit of confusion on
where to ask questions? I think it would also hide GTK+ away to people 
asking
more generic questions on UI toolkits, or for GTK+ on platforms other 
than
Linux, when Qt and wxWidgets for example are on stackoverflow and don't 
have

their own stackexchange.

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Stackexchange community for GNOME/GTK+

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

I'm creating a stackexchange community for the GNOME platform and the GTK+
toolkit.  I'm looking for help in subscribing to the forum and of course
some people who would be willing to answer questions.  We have three days
to build 5 followers and build about 5-10 questions that can be answered.
After that to get to the next phase, we will need 50 followers and 40 good
questionsI have some folks who are also willing to monitor and answer
questions.

https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/109823/gtk-and-gnome?referrer=jPuOAsszR3FdMlqW5m8Y-A2

WHY:  We need to have a search engine index-able library of knowledge on
our platform.  Modern programmers today frequently use stackexchange and
google to ask questions and to look for answers for questions.

Today, questions are answered in mailing lists and irc.  Neither one are
search engine friendly and common questions are often repeated and their
answers not shared.  Let's build a persistent body of knowledge that people
can easily find and lower the bar of entry in writing applications in GNOME
or GTK+.

sri
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