Re: gnome-software/packagekit support for arch linux
Well I for one am using Arch for the new software (GNOME included) and not for the Arch way, and I'll be very happy if the packagekit package gets more love. I think more and more people will be like me - switching to Arch because of the new software and AUR, and not so much for the hands-on approach that the distro has. Petko On 03/27/2014 08:34 AM, Alex Jordan wrote: On Mar 26, 2014 7:47 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me mailto:s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Looking at the reactions around the internet from the release, it seems that GNOME is very popular on Arch Linux based distros. In fact, in about three weeks most Arch Linux folks will already be on GNOME 3.12 and enjoying the fruits of six months of our labor while most others are still waiting for an official release. While they might be able to obtain through COPR or some other method they aren't official. Unfortunately, none of them will be able to enjoy GNOME Software, due to the fact that there is no active development of a pacman backend for packagekit. Arch Linux users are missing out on a major part of the GNOME eco-system. These are two AUR packages, one has been orphaned and the last update was in 2011. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnome-packagekit-git/ The second has some update on it and it is from 2013: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/packagekit-git/ What can we do to rectify this situation? Given the large popularity of Arch Linux its undeniable that they are a big part of our customer base. sri It's worth mentioning that as an Arch user, I don't have any major problems with the PackageKit backend. It _is_ lacking in a few areas, but it is functional and the parts that are there work well. It's also worth mentioning that due to The Arch Way, Arch users are much more likely to want to do things themselves. For example, on systems where I even have Software installed, I rarely use it. I prefer directly invoking pacman (well, a small wrapper called pacmatic). Direct control is why I use Arch. What I am trying to get at is this: just because GNOME is my style doesn't mean that something like Software is my style, and presumably, a large portion of Arch users feel the same. Therefore, this may not be the best use of time. That being said, I don't want to impose my views so I'll leave it up to the fine folks here to talk time budgeting. Congratulations on the 3.12 release! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-software/packagekit support for arch linux
On Mar 26, 2014 7:47 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Looking at the reactions around the internet from the release, it seems that GNOME is very popular on Arch Linux based distros. In fact, in about three weeks most Arch Linux folks will already be on GNOME 3.12 and enjoying the fruits of six months of our labor while most others are still waiting for an official release. While they might be able to obtain through COPR or some other method they aren't official. Unfortunately, none of them will be able to enjoy GNOME Software, due to the fact that there is no active development of a pacman backend for packagekit. Arch Linux users are missing out on a major part of the GNOME eco-system. These are two AUR packages, one has been orphaned and the last update was in 2011. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnome-packagekit-git/ The second has some update on it and it is from 2013: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/packagekit-git/ What can we do to rectify this situation? Given the large popularity of Arch Linux its undeniable that they are a big part of our customer base. sri It's worth mentioning that as an Arch user, I don't have any major problems with the PackageKit backend. It _is_ lacking in a few areas, but it is functional and the parts that are there work well. It's also worth mentioning that due to The Arch Way, Arch users are much more likely to want to do things themselves. For example, on systems where I even have Software installed, I rarely use it. I prefer directly invoking pacman (well, a small wrapper called pacmatic). Direct control is why I use Arch. What I am trying to get at is this: just because GNOME is my style doesn't mean that something like Software is my style, and presumably, a large portion of Arch users feel the same. Therefore, this may not be the best use of time. That being said, I don't want to impose my views so I'll leave it up to the fine folks here to talk time budgeting. Congratulations on the 3.12 release! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-software/packagekit support for arch linux
On 27 March 2014 02:46, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Unfortunately, none of them will be able to enjoy GNOME Software, due to the fact that there is no active development of a pacman backend for packagekit. Arch Linux users are missing out on a major part of the GNOME eco-system. There are two problem here. One is that indeed, the PackageKit arch backend is under-maintained, and doesn't support the newer features that gnome-software uses so heavily (e.g. the new filter enums). The second is that arch does not generate AppStream metadata, so even if the PackageKit backend worked well enough, there would be no rich content (long translated descriptions, screenshots, ratings, etc) to show. If anyone from arch wants to make this work, please grab me on #PackageKit on freenode and we can talk in more detail. Richard ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
gnome-software/packagekit support for arch linux
Looking at the reactions around the internet from the release, it seems that GNOME is very popular on Arch Linux based distros. In fact, in about three weeks most Arch Linux folks will already be on GNOME 3.12 and enjoying the fruits of six months of our labor while most others are still waiting for an official release. While they might be able to obtain through COPR or some other method they aren't official. Unfortunately, none of them will be able to enjoy GNOME Software, due to the fact that there is no active development of a pacman backend for packagekit. Arch Linux users are missing out on a major part of the GNOME eco-system. These are two AUR packages, one has been orphaned and the last update was in 2011. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnome-packagekit-git/ The second has some update on it and it is from 2013: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/packagekit-git/ What can we do to rectify this situation? Given the large popularity of Arch Linux its undeniable that they are a big part of our customer base. sri ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
