[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2013-05-17 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
** Package changed: firefox (Ubuntu) = ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-themes” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
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   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
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   SHELL=/bin/bash
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  RelatedPackageVersions:
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   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  dmi.modalias: 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-12-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: firefox
   Status: New = Invalid

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  Invalid
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
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   PATH=(custom, no user)
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   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
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dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04:
 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-16 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
What theme are you referring to?

The upstream report says that firefox is happy to oblige any scroll-bar
width prescribed by the OS theme.

My scroll-bar is the same size yours is. I'm a user who is not alone in
thinking that the default width is too small.

Where in Ubuntu can you change the scroll bar widths? Compiz? No. Unity?
No. Firefox? No.

Firefox says its a operating system's job to set such things. Isn't
compiz the window manager? Shouldn't it provide a setting for modifying
this? Or is it Unity? Where in Ubuntu?

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  New
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
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   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
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   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-16 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
See solution 2:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29104

Wouldn't this give me the customization to adjust scrollbar width  in
not only Firefox, but all applications?

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  New
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  dmi.modalias: 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-15 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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On 2012-11-14T11:14:03+00:00 Aozill6 wrote:

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/16.0
Build ID: 20121025212310

Steps to reproduce:

For additional files go here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559


Actual results:

I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year
browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your
finger.

As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow
on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher
resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at
the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions.

It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider
it a cumbersome control.

I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of
Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size
(without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification).
Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and
providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However,
even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select.
Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that
controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
Architecture: amd64
AudioDevicesInUse:
 USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
 /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
 /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
BuildID: 20121025212310
CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not 
found.
Channel: Unavailable
Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
ForcedLayersAccel: False
IfupdownConfig:
 # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
IpRoute:
 default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static
 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000
 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1
IwConfig:
 eth0 no wireless extensions.

 lo no wireless extensions.
MarkForUpload: True
PrefSources:
 prefs.js
 
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
 
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
RelatedPackageVersions:
 icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1
 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
RfKill:

RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
SourcePackage: firefox
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
WifiSyslog:

dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.bios.version: A04
dmi.board.name: 0P792H
dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.board.version: A04
dmi.chassis.type: 8
dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.chassis.version: A04
dmi.modalias: 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-15 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
** Also affects: unity
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: compiz
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in Compiz:
  New
Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  New
Status in Unity:
  New
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-15 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
Perhaps it is the duty of Unity or Compiz to provide this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1078681

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in Compiz:
  New
Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  New
Status in Unity:
  New
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  dmi.modalias: 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-15 Thread Omer Akram
that's neither a bug in compiz nor unity as it says on the upstream bug
report it may actually be a bug in the theme.

** No longer affects: compiz

** No longer affects: unity

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  New
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  dmi.modalias: 

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-14 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #811681
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681

** Also affects: firefox via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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Title:
  Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser:
  Unknown
Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first
  year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as
  your finger.

  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more
  narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at
  higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.

  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but
  at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher
  resolutions.

  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.

  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I
  consider it a cumbersome control.

  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases
  of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its
  size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet
  modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-
  clickable and providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.

  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option.
  However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is
  to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't
  mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.

  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
  grained-mouse-control-effort to use.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.

   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:

  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:

  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-10 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
** Description changed:

  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year
  browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your
  finger.
  
  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow
  on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher
  resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.
  
  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at
  the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions.
  
  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.
  
  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider
  it a cumbersome control.
  
  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of
  Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size
  (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification).
  Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and
  providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.
  
  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However,
  even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select.
- Just because a mouse-cursor come to a fine point, doesn't mean that
+ Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that
  controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.
  
- I believe we have finally crossed threshold. While before, we've always
- been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got
- plenty of width there, and it is time to increase the width of
- scrollbars and make them require less fine-grained-mouse-control to use.
+ I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
+ always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
+ we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
+ increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
+ grained-mouse-control to use.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
-  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
-  /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
-  /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
+  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
+  /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
+  /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
-  # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
-  auto lo
-  iface lo inet loopback
+  # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
+  auto lo
+  iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
-  default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static 
-  169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000 
-  192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
+  default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
+  169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
+  192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
-  eth0  no wireless extensions.
-  
-  lono wireless extensions.
+  eth0  no wireless extensions.
+ 
+  lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
-  prefs.js
-  
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
-  
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
+  prefs.js
+  
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
+  
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
-  TERM=xterm
-  PATH=(custom, no user)
-  XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
-  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
-  SHELL=/bin/bash
+  TERM=xterm
+  PATH=(custom, no user)
+  

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable

2012-11-10 Thread Lonnie Lee Best
** Description changed:

  I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year
  browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your
  finger.
  
  As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but
  each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow
  on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher
  resolutions its physical width continues to narrow.
  
  At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at
  the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions.
  
  It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too 
narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web 
page navigation, such as:
  1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button
  2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button
  3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider.
  
  Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue
  that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine-
  grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider
  it a cumbersome control.
  
  I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of
  Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size
  (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification).
  Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and
  providing a Adjust Width option in its context menu.
  
  Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen
  interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and
  selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a
  person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However,
  even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select.
  Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that
  controls ought to be barely bigger than that point.
  
  I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've
  always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now
  we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to
  increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine-
- grained-mouse-control to use.
+ grained-mouse-control-effort to use.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC2:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20121025212310
  CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 
not found.
  Channel: Unavailable
  Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
  IfupdownConfig:
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  IpRoute:
   default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0  proto static
   169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
   192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.77.246  
metric 1
  IwConfig:
   eth0  no wireless extensions.
  
   lono wireless extensions.
  MarkForUpload: True
  PrefSources:
   prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js
   
[Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   icedtea-7-plugin  1.3-1ubuntu1.1
   google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1
   rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5
   totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
  RfKill:
  
  RunningIncompatibleAddons: False
  SourcePackage: firefox
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  WifiSyslog:
  
  dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A04
  dmi.board.name: 0P792H
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A04
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.version: A04
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04:
  dmi.product.name: Studio 1737
  dmi.product.version: A04
  dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

** Summary changed:

- Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable
+ Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable

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