[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Mathew Hodson]

** No longer affects: gnome-software (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: appstream-glib (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: evince (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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  evince not listed

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Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Amr Ibrahim]

Yes, you are right. The two software centres are designed differently.
Ubuntu Software Centre can show every package if you select so. GNOME
Software does not; it's by design to show only applications.

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Sebastien Bacher]

** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Invalid

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Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
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Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Amr Ibrahim]

Its purpose is to encourage developers to polish their applications to
comply with AppStream specifications to make them appeal to normal
users.

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[corrado venturini]

but inxi is listed in the old ubuntu software center - see attachment in
my previus post.

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  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
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  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Amr Ibrahim]

inxi is not listed because it's a script, not a GUI application. GNOME
Software is designed to show only applications. If you are familiar
enough to use scripts from the CLI, you can also use apt to install it.

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  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
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  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[corrado venturini]

I have same problem also for inxi: not listed in gnome softare but ok in
the old ubuntu software center

** Attachment added: "inxiSoftware.png"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1553156/+attachment/4599651/+files/inxiSoftware.png

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  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: appstream-glib (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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  Confirmed
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Matthias Klumpp]

Okay, looks like nobody does the archive-wide data-hunt, and all fix
their packaging or didn't have that problem (asked Arch, Fedora, got
fuzzy reply from OpenSUSE because I couldn't find someone directly
involved with this stuff).

So I would right now rather like to add an error hint warning about
missing binaries / metainfo / .desktop files, instead of making the
metadata extractor more complex to accomodate for few packages shipping
.desktop file and metainfo in a package separated from the project's
main binary.

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  New
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  Fix Released
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  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Matthias Klumpp]

Thing is: If we allow those separations, we would also need to allow putting 
the metainfo file in an arbitrary package, so in the end, in the worst case, we 
need to run a global archive wide or dependency- and reverse-dependency based 
search on the metainfo file, the .desktop file and icons.
At least with the current generator's speed, that will consume resources. So 
right now, I am not sure if we want to have the tradeoff of putting two most of 
the time arch-independent files together with the binary (and consume slightly 
more space in the archive), or have longer processing times when generating the 
metadata.
Since I am not a fan of the TryExec line[1] and separating .desktop files and 
metainfo, I would strongly prefer to adjust the packaging, since it also 
appears to be a rare event that the files are separated.
This of course diverges from what people are used to do for a long time now, 
which is a downside.
I still can be convinced that doing that archive wide hunt for the right file 
is the way to go, but at time I am questioning if it is worth to go through all 
that trouble if people could just fix the package once and avoid us doing that 
search again and again with every new upload.
I will ask around at other AppStream-enabled distros how they handle it, maybe 
they have some useful input.

Btw, the appstream-generator rewrite I am working on is a massive
improvement in terms of speed over the older one, but even that one
spends a huge amount of time on getting contents information from
packages and decompressing .deb files - so searching for files which
aren't in the contents file by e.g. going through dependencies will
still be an expensive operation.

[1]: Desktops not only have to hunt down the icon, but *also* have to
search through $PATH to check that a specific binary exists, which slows
down loading all .desktop files. Caching the data isn't as easy as it is
with icons too, since the binary could vanish (theoretically) at any
time, and desktops would need to hide the launcher then. An icon gone
missing at least doesn't affect the function of the launcher.

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Iain Lane]

That's what the TryExec= key is for, which evince has.

I'm still not convinced it is an error, but if people want to do the
work to the packages instead then that is fine.

You would do this:
  1) Find .desktop file in package 'a'
  2) Look for TryExec or Exec in that package
  3) If not there, go and look in Contents
  4) Check those packages for a Depends relationship on 'a', set that as the 
package for the component.

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

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This bug was fixed in the package evince - 3.18.2-1ubuntu4

---
evince (3.18.2-1ubuntu4) xenial; urgency=medium

  * debian/control:
- Set breaks/replaces for .desktop file moves
  * debian/evince.install:
  * debian/evince-common.install:
- Move .desktop files from -common to the main binary (LP: #1553156)
- Remove reference to obsolete evince-gtk.desktop

 -- Robert Ancell   Tue, 08 Mar 2016
21:40:27 +1300

** Changed in: evince (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Matthias Klumpp]

> I wonder if the generator could do something about that like search
for the Exec= binary - ximion?

Nope, because this would mean searching the *reverse dependencies* of a 
package, or once again turning to the Contents file, which is always bead, 
because, as you know, it's super-slow.
While I see a case for searching dependencies for icons, in case of the 
.desktop file I would rather add an additional check to the generator to ignore 
the component if .desktop file and binary are not in the same package, because 
that happening is a bug. The .desktop file and the binary must be together, so 
the application only shows up in menus when it is actually installed.
Otherwise, if people only have -common installed for some reason, they will get 
a dead link in the menu.
Just like we don't separate manpages and binaries, .desktop files and binaries 
belong together too.

So, maybe we want a check for this in the generator (priority error), which is 
pretty easy to do...
(I am also wondering if there is policy for this... I'll do some research on 
what is common practice there, probably lintian should check if 
binary+.desktop-file+metainfo are together in one package, unless there are 
cases where separating is actually useful (can't think of any right now)).

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Iain Lane]

On Debian evince is at least listed, so I'm not sure why that doesn't
work for us and I think it should (but see the next paragraph).

I think there's a second bug, besides it not being listed, that it will
try to install evince-common because that's what appstream says the
package is for evince.desktop. I wonder if the generator could do
something about that like search for the Exec= binary - ximion? This is
broken on Debian too FYI: if you remove and re-install evince then you
only get evince-common. Moving the .desktop file would be a valid fix
but will only fix this case.

> laney@nightingale> appstreamcli search evince.desktop
> Identifier: evince.desktop [desktop]
> Name: Evince
> Summary: View multi-page documents
> Package: evince-common
> Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince
> Icon: evince-common_evince.png

The evince-* entries are metainfo files (not .appdata) that I think
describe the different types of files that Evince can show. They aren't
applications and so shouldn't be influencing the top-level list, instead
being shown as sub entries in Evince's.
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-Metadata.html

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Title:
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Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Robert Ancell]

(Though now I need to double check if the reviews are source package
names or binary names...)

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Title:
  evince not listed

Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Robert Ancell]

Also, I noticed the Ubuntu reviews are on the 'evince' package - there
are none on 'evince-common'. So moving the .desktop file also makes them
show correctly.

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Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Robert Ancell]

I built a local version with the .desktop file moved and the appstream
data manually edited and it worked.

I've made the packaging change here in lp:~robert-ancell/evince/ubuntu-lp1553156
Seb - can you give a second opinion if you think moving the .desktop file makes 
sense and can you double check it has the correct Breaks/Replaces for this?

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  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

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** Branch linked: lp:~robert-ancell/evince/ubuntu-lp1553156

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Status in appstream-glib package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1553156] Re: evince not listed

[Robert Ancell]

What's happing in this case:
1. The apt plugin states that evince-common is installed.
2. The appstream plugin attempts to find the metadata for this.
3. appstream-glib has multiple entries for the package "evince-common", it 
picks the first one ("evince-psdocument").
4. evince-psdocument doesn't have a type, so GNOME Software rejects the 
metadata.

I'm not sure why there's multiple appstream entries for this.

I suspect that moving the .desktop file into the main binary will
probably solve this and it seems like the right thing to do anyway. I'm
not sure if there's other cases that may be hit by this issue and what
the solution is for them.

** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Also affects: evince (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
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Status in gnome-software package in Ubuntu:
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Bug description:
  Using current xenial, evince is not listed in gnome-software. The log
  states it's of unknow application type ... could it come from the fact
  that the .desktop is in the -common binary?

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