[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
This is an upstream gnome-shell feature request so it should be discussed there: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/4603 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: New Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
Yes, this is a very required feature. When working with (or presenting to) external displays, it is necessary to: - see time - have access to calendar - Some apps are missing top bars. Very appreciated. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: New Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: New Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #4603 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/4603 ** Changed in: gnome-shell Remote watch: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #3091 => gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #4603 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Unknown Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #3091 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3091 ** Changed in: gnome-shell Importance: Wishlist => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Expired => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Remote watch: bugzilla.gnome.org/ #780078 => gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #3091 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Unknown Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Incomplete => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Expired Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Changed in: gnome-shell Importance: Medium => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I depend on having the clock displayed on *every* monitor I'm working with, so not having the top bar on secondary displays is a major no-no, IMHO. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
actually, the shell extension(in ubuntu software) Multi Monitors Add-On works, although it is not perfect -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
When I am in the full-screen on the primary monitor, the top bar is blocked, so it is necessary for me to show the top bar in another monitor. It is truely a bug to be fixed, but the Linux seems not to be aware of it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Tags removed: gnome-17.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I would like to see the time in the top bar or my notifications while playing full screen on the primary screen from steam. Is it too much to ask? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #3091 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3091 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
Any update on this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
Launchpad has imported 35 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2017-03-15T06:22:25+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi- monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi- monitor systems since prior to 2004. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/0 On 2017-03-15T06:39:00+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Created attachment 347984 Gnome 2 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/1 On 2017-03-15T06:39:20+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Created attachment 347985 Windows 8 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/2 On 2017-03-15T06:39:38+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Created attachment 347986 Windows 10 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/3 On 2017-03-15T06:59:12+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Created attachment 347988 Mate 1.18.0 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/4 On 2017-03-16T10:21:47+00:00 Allan Day wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't understand this. (In reply to Chris Cheney from comment #0) > It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg > apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) What is "the primary"? > supported > multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. Can you be more specific? What feature do you want, exactly? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/5 On 2017-03-16T10:40:09+00:00 Florian-muellner wrote: (In reply to Allan Day from comment #5) > > supported > > multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. > > Can you be more specific? What feature do you want, exactly? Probably something like https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/323 /multiple-monitor-panels/ Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/6 On 2017-03-16T14:41:55+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Presumably the extensions that Gnome itself ships as opposed to ones that 3rd parties supply on http://extensions.gnome.org/ , which would be the responsibility of those 3rd party developers. i.e. these: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions/tree/extensions In particular apps-menu, and places-menu as window-list already properly supports multiple monitors. I would like to be able to replicate the look (at least more or less) of what is shown in the MATE 1.18.0 picture attached to this BZ. You can already do this with Gnome Classic for 1 screen, but not for more than 1. The previously mentioned 3rd party extension does work to replicate the 'Activities' button but does not replicate the others mentioned and would be better suited in the official set of extensions so that it does not break in the future as it has often in the past with new gnome releases. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/7 On 2017-03-16T14:51:33+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Created attachment 348094 Gnome 3 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1682542/comments/8 On 2017-03-16T14:53:09+00:00 Ccheney-8 wrote: Compare the MATE 1.18.0 to
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
** Bug watch added: bugzilla.gnome.org/ #780078 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 ** Changed in: gnome-shell Importance: Medium => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Incomplete => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Remote watch: GNOME Bug Tracker #780078 => bugzilla.gnome.org/ #780078 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Unknown Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I have upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and I am missing the top bar on multiple monitors. I would like to have this feature by default. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I would like to see this implemented too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I have same issue as Timothée Jeannin describes. Did you every try to works with 3+ monitors? You want same behavior on all monitors. Yo do not want primary monitor. Primary monitor is history... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I second the notion that adding support for multiple top bars would be a step in the right direction for multi-monitor support. Also in regards to the comment that it would be non-trivial to implement this, in particular the part about: "[can't] use the monitor with the top bar as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings" - that sounds strictly like a code improvement, and a good reason to do this. The primary monitor should have a unique attribute that designates it this way - other features tied to or built on top of it should not act as the method for determining which monitor is the primary one in the first place - we're breaking the single utility principle here no? It certainly would feel wrong to me if I tweaked my own Linux system and moved the top bar to a secondary display and suddenly the Ubuntu OS started treating that one as my primary display. This refactoring would also make changes like this in the future much easier to achieve, since the stack doesn't have un-intuitive relationship to monitor components (it instead relates directly to the monitor class/module/object). Just my 2c. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I switched from unity to gnome with Ubuntu 18.04, it's quite annoying to have to go to the other monitor just to adjust the audio volume. I think all monitors should have the top bar by default. I agree that login out of the session is not very frequent but adjusting the volume is a very frequent action on the other hand ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
Agreed. Distinguishing between monitors serves no purpose. Like everyone else I have strong muscle memory to look to the top right of my screen when I want to see status indicators, or to look to the top to see the time, or to move my mouse to the top right to change the volume. This muscle memory has no concept of whether I am looking at my 'primary' monitor or not, and feels a half second of confusion each time I try to do one of these things on a second monitor, which is the hallmark of bad interface design. I think I'm subconsciously adapting to just not use the second monitor much, and that's a stupid outcome too. Of course indicators have nothing to do with the specific monitor they're on, but they have nothing to do with the primary monitor either, so why are they there? They're there to give quick visual and interactive access to certain frequently accessed information and functionality, quick enough that you apparently don't want to have to hit a few keypresses to get them. By the same logic you shouldn't have to drag your mouse over increasingly large screen real estate. Unity had it right in this regard. There should be just monitors, no primary or secondary. It's a pointless distinction, and whilst I accept it might be technically difficult to achieve given the current architecture of gnome-shell, to insist on it as a design decision is silly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
What keeps me bothering: why should a desktop environment distinguish between "primary" and "additional" monitors at all? In Unity land, all the monitors are first-class citizens, and this approach works perfectly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1682542] Re: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc
I agree with comment #2. Just upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10 from 17.04 and the new behavior drives me crazy. Is it upstream that needs to do something or can it be fixed by Ubuntu devs? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1682542 Title: Add support for top bars on all monitors to allow for multi-monitor support in primary extensions - apps-menu, places-menu, topbar, etc Status in GNOME Shell: Incomplete Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: This issue will effectively be a regression in desktop usage once Ubuntu switches from Unity to Gnome Shell. Gnome Shell does not work well with multiple monitors unlike every other desktop environment except Budgie, which is switching away from GTK/Gnome to Qt with Budgie 11 due out in the next month or two. I reported it upstream last month but it does not appear to have much traction at the moment. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780078 " It would be nice if the primary included gnome-shell extensions, eg apps-menu and places-menu (and by extension the topbar) supported multi-monitor similar to how the bottom bar 'window-list' currently does. This was easy to achieve on Gnome 2 and now via MATE (out of the box) but there does not appear to be any way to do this with Gnome 3. This also leads to there not being a way to do this via 'Gnome Classic'. Even Windows finally (in W10) does this better out of the box than Gnome 3. BTW - Intel has supported IGP triple head since Ivy Bridge (2012) so it is very cheap to deploy a triple head system (~ $200 for 3 1080p monitors). AMD supports up to quad head in their IGPs. This has been blocking me from moving to Gnome 3 since its release and I finally decided to write a bug report about it. I have had all multi-monitor systems since prior to 2004. " And see comments #11 and #14 from Florian. " No, you don't want that in the extensions. Each extension is separate, so what you are asking for here is that apps-menu and places-menu *both* add top bars to non-primary monitors. We are definitely not going to add two or more stacked panels at the top. What you probably want instead is an option in gnome-shell to put top bars on non-primary monitors, and the aforementioned extensions to handle that case. " " Well, we've established what you want, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we'll implement it. So far the reasoning seems to be: - you really want the feature - GNOME 2 / Windows has it Unlike the case of the window list, nothing in the top bar (except for the app menu to some extent) is tied to a particular monitor, so there's a much weaker case here IMHO. (I'll also note that this wouldn't be a "cheap" option, but require work on lots of details throughout the stack - we'd need to figure out the overview (only include the activities button on the primary monitor? or allow an overview on any monitor?), get API to control the brightness of a particular monitor (rather than the built-in one), don't use "the monitor with the top bar" as indicator for the primary monitor in Settings, ...) " To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1682542/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
