[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
I disagree that any modules which modify sound should be used by default. I think the defaults should keep audio in its original raw form as much as possible. However, if you can convince upstream to enable module-echo-cancel by default then Ubuntu would get it by default. Please send your request to: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/groups/pulseaudio/-/issues and tell us the new bug ID. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
I agree with your point so won't be opening a bug to change the defaults. But it should be easy to enable somewhere in the GUI sound settings at least for specific applications. Video conferencing like appear.in is only really usable with headphones because of this. Adjusting text config files is not a good user experience. And I suspect most people only care about the microphone because of these kinds of uses. According to this: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/196 It's possible for apps to request echo cancelation with 'filter.want =echo-cancel' so maybe this is actually a bug in firefox? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
Yes in that case it sounds like an potential enhancement request that Firefox or other apps using PulseAudio could implement. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
Yes in that case it sounds like a potential enhancement request that Firefox or other apps using PulseAudio could implement. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
I don't agree that it's just a Firefox issue. There should be a simple way to enable this in the normal sound UI, at least as default for everything and ideally per-app. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
I have added your suggestion to the sound UI enhancements card for Ubuntu 19.04: https://trello.com/c/aI3BX3ax but it seems it's already been deferred and isn't going to be considered for 19.04. Maybe some future release. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1811902] Re: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default
Thanks for that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1811902 Title: Echo cancelation should be enabled by default Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: Echo cancellation is a basic feature for anything where you are using a video or audio conference. According to instructions like these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1682253 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Enable_Echo/Noise-Cancellation https://medium.com/@tim_73574/ubuntu-microphone-noise-cancellation-and-volume-auto-adjusted-issue-2c79678542bb There is now enough support in pulseaudio to do this well, but it's just not enabled by default. Users shouldn't need to fish around for strange things to add to config files. More complete defaults should be included. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-43.46-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.5 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: pedrocr2684 F...m pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: pedrocr2684 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Jan 15 23:45:10 2019 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-05-31 (229 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 03/22/2018 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: N1CET66W (1.34 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40697 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrN1CET66W(1.34):bd03/22/2018:svnLENOVO:pn20FAS5TS00:pvrThinkPadT460s:rvnLENOVO:rn20FAS5TS00:rvrSDK0J40697WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460s dmi.product.name: 20FAS5TS00 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1811902/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp