[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Robert (robertsms) I'm afraid I haven't really explored other ways of doing this. Anyone else? Otherwise you will probably want to look at the redsocks documentation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I don't have this problem anymore since I am not forced to use proxy now. Sorry. I used to use pidgin as a work around. Cheers 18 paź 2013 05:36 robertsms robert...@gmail.com napisał(a): @Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in empathy package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in empathy source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in empathy package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Hello, Empathy works fine for me with a proxy when I setup only HTTP and HTTPS proxy settings of the ubuntu network proxy. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Michal 304...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I don't have this problem anymore since I am not forced to use proxy now. Sorry. I used to use pidgin as a work around. Cheers 18 paź 2013 05:36 robertsms robert...@gmail.com napisał(a): @Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in empathy package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in empathy source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in empathy package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
People affected by this might want to look at using redsocks and iptables to set up a transparent system proxy configuration. I have done that and am more and more convinced that that is the way to go, rather than making individual applications do proxy support. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Wow that linkedIn spam is nasty ... sneaks in like it's from LinkedIn. Anyhow situation appears to be that Empathy state they cannot run in the environment offered by Ubuntu, other IM clients can run. The bug should move to Ubuntu distro ... you are using an IM client which reports it's not supported in the given environment ..so either Ubuntu are willing to fix the environment or they must choose a client which will work? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Recently installed 12.04 LTS and I see this issue. When I don't use a proxy at home, I can connect to gtalk and yahoo but the same configuration doesn't work when using a proxy at work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Just Installed 11.10 and it's STILL using empathy ... and it STILL doesn't work ... this must be 3 years since this 1st happened. At the very least Ubuntu could switch back to Pidgin , which does work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Nice little workaround for IRC, and hence for idle (at least it does the job at a pinch): http://wiki.tcl.tk/3125 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Felipe: (1) may I suggest you to find the correct upstream bugs and update the link here? Or open upstream bugs as needed; (2) may I also suggest you to carry your reasoning upstream? (3) which bug is it you state is closed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602824 the work should be on the lower layers. I'm happy to open tasks against the telepathy projects or any others though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
C de-Avillez: First of all, let's remember that you don't have to fix all the CM's to fix this issue. Ubuntu can fix this *today*, regardless of the status of the telepathy CM's (1) This is pointless, because a) it's not needed, and b) each CM has different issues regarding proxy support. * telepathy-haze This works fine. * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. * telepathy-sunshine No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Even if you fix all these issues in the connection-managers, this *still* doesn't solve the problem that some people need proxy configuration in a per-proxy way, as explained upstream bug #16034, you would need modifications both in the connection managers, *AND* Empathy. (2) I have already done that: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/4103 Some responses I've heard from upstream developers, are Nobody uses proxies, Nobody uses HTTP connect, Sysadmins probably never allow HTTP connect for non 443 ports, If you need special proxies for some accounts, write your own PAC file. And similar. The fact of the matter is that they have no urgency to fix this, or even acknowledge the problems. In the meantime, people are completely unable to use Empathy, and are forced to use Pidgin (or use telepathy-haze by removing all the other CM's Ubuntu ships by default). Again, Ubuntu could fix this *today*, it doesn't have to wait for upstream to acknowledge this is an issue. (3) I didn't get that. Pedro Villavicencio: That's only if you use global settings, and as I argued in the response for (1); that's not enough. Upstream bug bug #22065 complains about that, and upstream bug #16034 describes the solution, which requires modifications to Empathy. So, I repeat, do you want to fix this or not? Because you can fix it right now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011 à 15:55 +, Felipe Contreras a écrit : * telepathy-haze This works fine. Stop claiming that switching to Haze is the solution of all the world's problems. Haze can be an option for protocols not having a proper CM but it would be completely stupid to switch to it for XMPP: no call, no file transfer, no muc, no desktop sharing... * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. I agree that Haze could be used. Actually we're going to switch to Haze for MSN accounts in 3.4 as butterfly (and the other Python CMs) are not properly maintained and lake all the recent Telepathy APIs. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. Which issues exactly? Are there in Gabble? in GIO? * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. Idle has switched to GIO (fdo #37145) so SHOULD be at the same state as Gabble. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Please feel free to open one. * telepathy-sunshine No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Same as Butterfly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Guillaume Desmottes gdesm...@gnome.org wrote: Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011 à 15:55 +, Felipe Contreras a écrit : * telepathy-haze This works fine. Stop claiming that switching to Haze is the solution of all the world's problems. Haze can be an option for protocols not having a proper CM but it would be completely stupid to switch to it for XMPP: no call, no file transfer, no muc, no desktop sharing... Being able to log in is more important than anything else. * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. I agree that Haze could be used. Actually we're going to switch to Haze for MSN accounts in 3.4 as butterfly (and the other Python CMs) are not properly maintained and lake all the recent Telepathy APIs. Makes sense. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. Which issues exactly? Are there in Gabble? in GIO? All the issues related to libproxy for starters, like not being able to get a popper configuration with GNOME 2, and thus all the DE's that already rely on those GConf settings, like Xfce. And all the issues related to GNOME 3 configuration, like the fact that all authentication is missing. Plus, in my machine, even with GNOME 3's control center it's confusing what should be the settings, and even when I put exactly the right settings, it takes a long long time to log in. * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. Idle has switched to GIO (fdo #37145) so SHOULD be at the same state as Gabble. Yes, many things should be in certain way *in theory*, but then why is fdo #12376 still open? Because nobody has actually tried *in practice*. Here, let me try... Nope... doesn't work. What a surprise. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Please feel free to open one. Why would I do that? As I stated multiple times, this is not *needed* to solve the issue at hand. You can disagree all you want with me, but the fact of the matter is that after more than 3 years this bug has existed, the issue remains there, and users are *completely* prevented to use Empathy. This is the problem going the GNOME way of trying to have everything perfectly. When is that going to happen? 2020? -- Felipe Contreras -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
But there is nothing to be done for Empathy itself here -- so it is Invalid as a bug task. This is not true. The upstream support would just use the GNOME proxy settings, and it would not be possible to configure the proxy per- account, for that you would still need changes in Empathy. If you assume this is only to read the system settings, then yes, this is not a bug in Empathy, it has to be implemented in all the telepathy connection managers but the list above (haze, gabble, and idle) is not nearly complete. Plus, none of those bugs have any priority, severity, or even any comment there. At this point it would be useful to do what Fedora does, have keep this bug open as a metabug, or tracking bug, and when all the telepathy CM's are fixed, then this is closed. Moreover, the upstream tracking bugs are wrong. Bug #22065 is not to use system proxy settings in telepathy-haze, in fact, it's for exactly the opposite; have an option to *disable* the proxy for this particular account, for which actually, you would need changes in Empathty. In fact, if you read the comments above in this bug report, you would see that people confirm that telepathy-haze is actually the only one that works. You could fix this bug *today* if you wanted to, by just distributing telepathy-haze, and not the other connection managers. So there's something Ubuntu can do to fix this, but you just don't want to. Bug #16034 has nothing to do with system proxy settings, which supposedly telepathy-gabble already supports (although not that smoothly). It is about user/password authentication to the proxy. Interestingly enough if you read comment #2, a telepathy developer suggests as an option to modify Empathy to allow configuring the proxy settings in a *per account* way: (b) Empathy gains http-proxy-server, http-proxy-port, http-proxy- username and http-proxy-password parameters in the Advanced area of account config Bug #12376 is correct, but as you can see, there's nothing going on over there. So, do you want to fix this or not? If you want to fix this, then closing the bug is like shuffling it under the carpet... It won't achieve anything. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
And still not an Empathy issue. There is nothing to be done on Empathy, fixes have to be written to the various protocol handlers. Invalidating (again) the Empathy task. ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
And still not an Empathy issue. There is nothing to be done on Empathy @hggdh2: With all due respect, I cannot agree with you. Consider this (real!) scenario: In my company, I use IM multi protocol client on Ubuntu. I need to have 4 accounts: 1. local (jabber) -- local intranet server1 [must use DIRECT http, must NOT use proxy] 2. gtalk (jabber) -- internet via http proxy [must use http via PROXY] 3. exchange (sipe) -- local intranet server2 [must use directly http, must NOT use proxy] 4. one more (gg) -- internet via http proxy [must use http via PROXY] Obviously, this can be done only if IM client let's me to setup http_proxy per account. Empathy does not. It is missing this feature. This is the reason, why I (and a lot of my colleagues in50 000+ employees company) are using Pidgin instead of Empathy which is the default Ubuntu IM client. Of course not all of employees are using Ubuntu, but all of them are potentially affected by this bug. Only in this one company. There are several others companies, campuses etc in similar situation. Please also note, that many popular applications have builtin proxy settings (Firefox, Pidgin, ...). It's not a critical feature for IM, but for multi communicator it's important. Kind Regards, Michal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Michal: there is a disconnect here: technically -- which where the bug tasks come in -- this is not an Empathy issue: Empathy does not do network. Network activities are performed by the so-called Connection Managers (which I called protocol handlers), usually the telepathy-whatever modules. Support for proxy must be added in these modules, not on Empathy. This may be -- or not -- a major undertaking; I do not know. But, no matter what, the best place to ask for it is upstream (where the authors reside). For each of the current valid tasks on this bug, there is a link to the upstream bug. I had a quick look at them, and it seems pretty much nothing has been done by the developers regarding proxy usage. Comments there would probably help more than here. And I do agree that lacking proxy support is not good. But this is a bug, a technical report of an error/issue. No matter what you (or jorge above) think, we have to have the correct modules listed. Empathy (overall) suffers with the lack of proxy support. But there is nothing to be done for Empathy itself here -- so it is Invalid as a bug task. On the other hand, telepathy-gabble, telepathy-haze, and telepathy-idle are correctly set. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@hggdh2: Thank you for the clarification. Have a good day. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
still the same situation with Empathy 3.2.0.1 and Ubuntu 11.10 ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Not working here Empathy 3.2.0.1 Ubuntu 11.10 !!! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Hello, I've just reconfirmed this bug exists with several Telepathy ?backends? when attempting to use a SOCKS proxy... an HTTP connect proxy is configured to forward connections through the available socks proxy. I've switched to Pidgin and this is confirmed to work, however it's in no way a solution to any problem... at best it's a cheap work around. Here is one solution... Place these into /etc/rc.local and run it: daemon -n socat5223 -- socat -ly TCP-LISTEN:5223,fork,reuseaddr SOCKS4A:127.0.0.1:talk.google.com:5223,socksport=9050 daemon -n socat5222 -- socat -ly TCP-LISTEN:5222,fork,reuseaddr OPENSSL:127.0.0.1:5223,verify=0 You'll need both the daemon and socat packages installed. Then one should be able to set localhost as the server to connect to. socat can also make use of HTTP connect proxies, I believe. Why you wouldn't put this into your application is beyond me, it's a little bit of shell scripting and it would close the bug... you could even make use of UNIX domain sockets. It's only politics that keeps this bug open, ppls own agendas getting in the way of implementing options/features users are requesting. Why would an application developer care about the available features on an HTTP proxy they would likely never use? The use should be able to configure and use proxies, don't know why this is so difficult a concept to understand. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
