[Desktop-packages] [Bug 732653] Re: Menus are hidden by default
** No longer affects: unity-2d (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dp-unity, dp-unity2d https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/732653 Title: Menus are hidden by default Status in Ayatana Design: Confirmed Status in Unity: Confirmed Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity. In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible. This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. - Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issues described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project is bug #682788 The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': --- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed --- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/732653/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 732653] Re: Menus are hidden by default
** No longer affects: unity-2d -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dp-unity, dp-unity2d https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/732653 Title: Menus are hidden by default Status in Ayatana Design: Confirmed Status in Unity: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “unity-2d” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity. In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible. This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. - Desired change: Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issues described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project is bug #682788 The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': --- Menus Location: Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed --- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/732653/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 732653] Re: Menus are hidden by default
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 682788 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 735233 Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for focused application ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 682788 Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dp-unity, dp-unity2d https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/732653 Title: Menus are hidden by default Status in Ayatana Design: New Status in Unity: New Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity-2d” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity. In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible. This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/732653/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 732653] Re: Menus are hidden by default
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 735233 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735233 ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 682788 Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 735233 Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for focused application -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dp-unity, dp-unity2d https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/732653 Title: Menus are hidden by default Status in Ayatana Design: New Status in Unity: New Status in Unity 2D: New Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: New Status in “unity-2d” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity. In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible. This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.) Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/732653/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 732653] Re: Menus are hidden by default
** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: unity Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Description changed: Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity. And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible. + + - + Desired change: + + Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. + + The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': + + --- + Menus + Location: Global/Local + Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed + --- + + More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) ** Tags added: udp ** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea) ** Changed in: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed ** Changed in: unity Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: unity Milestone: None = backlog -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dp-unity https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/732653 Title: Menus are hidden by default Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Committed Status in Unity: In Progress Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: Ubuntu Natty alpha 3 1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: File Connect to Server. 2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the Bookmarks menu. What happens: 1. The File menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank. - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button. 2. The Bookmarks menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default. - Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text Firefox Web Browser, which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- Mozilla Firefox -- is already present in the window title bar). - When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: Firefox W File Edit View…. What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it. The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu- unity-which-desktop-wins/2291: One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to
