[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Fresh 12.10 install. Error persist and commands: pactl upload-sample actual-bell.ogg bell.ogg xset b 100 must be run both on startup and wake. This is a papercut that cuts deeply for users that depend on the bell (like me). I will be available for testing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
I think I'm suffering from this in 12.04. That is to say, I get no sound when I backspace an empty line in a terminal, and I have set "alert sound" to "Glass" and the Alert volume to maximum. I can hear the sound when selecting it, but I never hear it in use. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpa
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Also, FWIW, when I log in using Gnome Shell instead of Unity *then* I can hear the ("Glass") alert sound from the terminal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Present in 16.04. Is the silence of the X11 bell intentional behavior? This is a really weird case. I mean, the bug has been open for longer than half a decade and triaged for a couple of years as well. The fix also is very simple and there are proposed patches. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpa
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
The attachment "debdiff for pulseaudio: upload bell.ogg" seems to be a debdiff. The ubuntu-sponsors team has been subscribed to the bug report so that they can review and hopefully sponsor the debdiff. If the attachment isn't a patch, please remove the "patch" flag from the attachment, remove the "patch" tag, and if you are member of the ~ubuntu-sponsors, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by ~brian-murray, for any issue please contact him.] -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpa
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
The following fixed it for me, in Ubuntu 12.04 Precise, using Gnome Classic/Compiz: 1) Add the following 2 lines to file /etc/pulse/default.pa: load-sample-lazy bell-windowing-system /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg load-module module-x11-bell sample=bell-windowing-system 2) Run "pulseaudio -k" to restart pulseaudio. That is, I just followed this post: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=607393#c15 ** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #607393 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=607393 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
There is still no bell in gterm on Ubuntu 14.04. Workaround in #18 does not help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Workaround in #10 does work in Ubuntu 14.04. After applying it, there is a bell sound in gterm. (#18 is also good, but note that in that example "actual-bell.ogg" must be a path to a real ogg file, while "bell.ogg" seems to be a build-in identifier which must not be touched.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in “gnome-media” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : htt
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
I just want to say, what a superbly written bug report, and I hope this gets fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
This bug is still present in Ubuntu 14.04 "pulseaudio-module-x11" version "1:4.0-0ubuntu11.1" Worked around by running the following steps as outline here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/96511/getting-the-pc-speaker-to-beep 1. Load the module pcspkr in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (comment it out) 2. Remove the package pulseaudio-module-x11 (that seems to absorb all XBell events) 3. Place options snd-hda-intel beep_mode=2 into /etc/modprobe.d/enable-beep.conf 4. reboot -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
This is still broken in 14.04. The workaround from point #4 fixes the issue for me: pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
Some additional information. In the patch to /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu- branches/ubuntu/wily/pulseaudio/wily/view/head:/debian/patches/0006 -load-module-x11-bell.patch line #9 should say "sample=x11-bell", rather than "sample=bell.ogg". One additional change is needed to /etc/pulse/default.pa: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu- branches/ubuntu/wily/pulseaudio/wily/view/head:/src/daemon/default.pa.in line #29 should be uncommented, to load an audio file as a sample named "x11-bell". Note that line #178 in the same file would use the "x11-bell" sample name: however it should NOT be uncommented, as explained in comments right above. module-x11-bell will be loaded by X running the /usr/bin /start-pulseaudio-x11 command, via /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop . -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or c
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 769314] Re: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...)
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-media in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/769314 Title: System bell broken in Natty/Unity (despite heroic...) Status in Unity: Invalid Status in gnome-media package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: unity This bug is about problems using the system bell in Unity or another Compiz-based environment. For problems using the system bell in Ubuntu Classic/Metacity or another Metacity-based environment, please see bug #486154. The system bell (that beep when you backspace on an empty line on a terminal, i.e.) is badly broken using the Unity environment in the Natty beta 2. By default, no sound is produced, and several misconfigurations make it difficult to produce sound either from the PC speaker or Pulse Audio's module-x11-bell. Not knowing what the desired behavior is, I can't say exactly what needs to be fixed. But the combination of the following issues makes the system quite obviously broken. 1) pcskpr is blacklisted. The pcspkr module is necessary for the PC speaker to produce sound. It is blacklisted, so regular users cannot turn the bell on. It would be nice for this to be fixed, but the attitudes displayed in #77010 suggest that it won't be. Nonetheless, I note it here because it interacts with some of the following. 2) The X bell volume is set to 0. As reported by `xset q`, the bell volume is 0 when Unity is started. Both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell respect this setting, so the volume must be turned up (with `xset b on` or `xset b 100`) for either to work. Since both the PC speaker and module-x11-bell are disabled by default, this setting only serves to frustrate attempts to turn them on; it never prevents unwanted sound. 3) module-x11-bell is loaded by /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 This is a system file, not a user file, so users cannot decide whether they want this module loaded or not. They could write a script to unload the module at login (and hope the module number doesn't vary between boots), but it would be much cleaner to have the modules loaded from a user file, possibly with defaults if the user file doesn't exist. 4) Sample bell.ogg is not loaded. When module-x11-bell is loaded, it is told to use the sample bell.ogg. But no sample is loaded into Pulse Audio. Thus, module-x11-bell traps system bell events (keeping them from going to the PC speaker) without producing any sound. If module-x11-bell is loaded, the sample it calls on should be loaded as well. (To fix this, run `pactl upload-sample /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg bell.ogg`.) 5) gnome-volume-control doesn't. The "Sound Effects" tab of gnome-volume-control offers to set the volume and sound for system bell events, but these have no effect. This is because gnome-volume-control is trying to control system bells through metacity. Ideally, it should be rewritten to control module-x11-bell instead, but a temporary fix could be to simply disable this tab. 6) System bell settings don't transfer to the Ubuntu Classic environment. Because that is using metacity, which has it's own set of problems. See bug #486154. This has been from testing in a VM (virtualbox), but all of these behaviors have also been seen in Compiz in various previous versions of Ubuntu running on various hardware. I have reported this bug against several components, as it is really an integration issue. The eventual fix may not involve your component, but please do not mark this bug as invalid until we have at least a roadmap for fixing it. Otherwise, I fear responsibility will be passed from component to component without anything being fixed. Rationales: Unity - As the overarching environment, Unity should be responsible for getting everything integrated. Additionally, some of the problems relate to session startup settings. Pulse Audio - module-x11-bell is not loaded intelligently or correctly. Gnome Media - Own gnome-volume-control. Versions (but note the same behavior has been seen in many earlier versions): unity: 3.8.10-0ubuntu2 pulseaudio: 1:0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3 gnome-media: 2.32.0-0ubuntu7 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769314/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp