[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Yep, I am ranting, too. It's a regression, not a benefit. As a slavistics and italianistics student, I need italian, slovenian and serbian cyrillic writing support (+ english is sometimes useful, too), because I read and write in all those languages for study and work, while my native (and default GUI) language is croatian. Am I supposed to have 4 (or even 5) different complete language packs installed on my system now? It would be crazy, I don't need all that. I want my GUI to be in croatian, while being able to use all the benefits of writing in other languages, without the need of installing all those translations. I want those checkboxes back. At least, make an Advanced button or something that would let us choose more in detail what language packages we exactly need, in case we don't need them all... The actual design is very bad for people working with various languages. The way it was before was just great. I was always promoting Ubuntu among my co-students for this feature, not anymore... :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/27/2011 12:13 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Arne Goetje [2011-09-27 3:39 -]: Hmm... and how are the users now going to install an input method module for, let's say Japanese, without installing all the translations? I.e. I just want to be able to type Japanese, but I don't care about the localized GUI, since it's not my native language, or I just prefer the English GUI. The checkboxes were there for exactly this reason. Being able to just display (fonts), or type (input methods) a language without having to install the translations. Yes, I'm aware of that. But at this time of the freeze actually re-implementing this feature would be too intrusive and take too much time, I'm afraid. Then please document this change and give the users a Howto to get the same result. And please put this in a prominent place! I predict that many users will be confused and will rant about this change... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOgW40AAoJENiwmJtstTzsyyEP/23j55OjlUq0CYenvITW1Gw1 z0x1MM8rKiVBQVruRB9SZFajExPzbgWEzT4l97491xNStsltAV11Hv6fUSQTFby1 JU1075nAacG12uz3j3rfHP7yj8EKmbwXVw2dIKAfodnfkPXBSfvItnU/tsnk2+1n u3hZPMBgP3fSGhtAviDBBaHVH4q8X1zZbOYNxXxuMlHDpOE9XAaxe76YG4MxOs7u 5EzZJ/9QLj4Yq6S6/MbXE5q5IaRRDURFGgVzjhsueq4JvWCxAAfm1s8EiEHEFggo T7ZCURWiIJ6FLFMHw7/pjucT4DRxe5/NMoY8aRfXEgTjZmzIampy1P+T6nVAsDUZ Pqg+WtDQaBgSIDpmc2ltzJK/amOTdeLOViTcN9YcOym1m22myGfleMZHz7kQRR5C pu/qzs428+IQIPcX1Q31RLzTgTZaC+Gr4EylcVR6I6PW2bX4l9NfJ5cr0X1PGw/f OriMtW+MjusiIjxm1hxCXbo5ijBZUt81ySLlNWQU7KO0dzdwYhuPFpM7yJaJtm9L 787969XhwIZvxxlVMy9Zk9Yy3GqX/uAwIGRHLylBgDTo7H5boKITgENF2+HG8dFL E+X/1rFbdKVmoKXSQE4/TClEDl65GEB64y0CQgPR62x+MVTQ9gLPwEUZp53kiCig IxvvDpErfvqTSKKZXQxu =e0S4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
I have no own firm opinion on this design change, but a couple of hours ago I saw this comment on the topic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/841712/comments/3 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Oneiric) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Martin Pitt (pitti) ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: Confirmed = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: In Progress Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Ah, these check boxes only controlled whether or not to install e. g. language-support-fonts-XX and the like. These language-support-* packages are gone from Ubuntu, so I think we just ought to disable these check boxes entirely. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: In Progress Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Committed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
** Branch linked: lp:language-selector -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Committed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.53 --- language-selector (0.53) oneiric; urgency=low [ Gunnar Hjalmarsson ] * LanguageSelector/LocaleInfo.py: - Change of makeEnvString() in v. 0.52 reversed. Didn't work as expected; old simpler code sufficient for now (fixes LP: #858184). - New function for testing whether the user language is set completely. * LanguageSelector/gtk/GtkLanguageSelector.py: - When setting the own regional formats, ensure that the user language is set completely in order to prevent a surprise change of the display language. [ Martin Pitt ] * debian/control: Explicitly depend on dbus, to ensure that it is configured at the time the postinst runs. Might help for bugs like LP #856975. * LanguageSelector/LangCache.py: Add a __str__() method to LanguagePackageStatus class, to ease debugging. * debian/control: Add missing python-kde4 dependency to l-s-kde. * Drop the details expander from the GTK UI for the fonts/writing aids/etc. checkboxes. These were used to install language-support-*-XX metapackages which got dropped. (LP: #856217) * tests/test_check_language_support.py: Fix test case for current number of language support packages: -ar installs exactly 5, so reduce the 5 check to 3. -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:29:50 +0200 ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/26/2011 06:57 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Ah, these check boxes only controlled whether or not to install e. g. language-support-fonts-XX and the like. These language-support-* packages are gone from Ubuntu, so I think we just ought to disable these check boxes entirely. Hmm... and how are the users now going to install an input method module for, let's say Japanese, without installing all the translations? I.e. I just want to be able to type Japanese, but I don't care about the localized GUI, since it's not my native language, or I just prefer the English GUI. The checkboxes were there for exactly this reason. Being able to just display (fonts), or type (input methods) a language without having to install the translations. If you want the users to do this in software center, you need to add a simple interface for them to choose what they want: * Fonts - Language - Install * Input Method - Language - Install Until then, please don't remove this functionality. If you decide to put all the dependency handling into the application, fine. But then please fix the checkboxes, so that they use the same mechanism. Just my two NT$. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOgUVhAAoJENiwmJtstTzsprcQAL07oVgmIEZmGlPyIH+1rfrC zxIMb5FXo+C54gV3uzye594LalFP7JTp9nyIhluWEBLn7BmsnPuilm9Lpte6svVj fCiUDrGFKiBPA2TIA88Ce4M7CwMKZ1tLhHx+ruKqYRatlZrZyv0VewDTqcavUrbL xFRoaOQMzzLyUWyB1AWkG6QRxkPo8yUtH8VC4WXXF2Ld/xFLakv8oikGbhCTIQLj 87ef+PdK+MvGpInImiYVj/zmshG6nq/dphvm1ApF5IoX7ULCZwHxWuYbGoYgC4KE Q6wPrHfq2dgtDJgSGBLoHt6mXwg1LkRTt0F0LFKd4W6ggS/jydreeZDI5rD+8Y37 hx83S+5/uQ0KJVmnkPDB2z2GEkGMSE2ETfF1HYvX3BqmiG0mxY2WQw9mgO2bRNlP I+An5RbVY08o5+RgVUVuycuHGol4VYuQdwm2yCOXO7JrT/+CGuWbAWf8XhIoVl8I mnCXmPOY/fl+IQMjHp8Tx4jgU78FSolAdUvTmuzk1Fh7rcZQRcdXBqNAUazVVP4u G9rVUQZ9AP7NP0sm/P1Ruxb4emTqzR5Jnxhorrfsy38IWwkBYiEzzFNiffhuW00u nThvFsy9moscPDoCFcQAxPb5gnHW9sSt0oAxk6T5kZPLANEkzRjSXYKTjpj4+hX6 HRTgBXDrkfY89abLe+a3 =xzmb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Arne Goetje [2011-09-27 3:39 -]: Hmm... and how are the users now going to install an input method module for, let's say Japanese, without installing all the translations? I.e. I just want to be able to type Japanese, but I don't care about the localized GUI, since it's not my native language, or I just prefer the English GUI. The checkboxes were there for exactly this reason. Being able to just display (fonts), or type (input methods) a language without having to install the translations. Yes, I'm aware of that. But at this time of the freeze actually re-implementing this feature would be too intrusive and take too much time, I'm afraid. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Fix Released Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Unfortunately, when testing on a fresh b2, I got the same result as you. Previously I tested on my main partition, and the fact that I can check quite a few boxes there is probably because I have had quite a few languages installed there for testing purposes. Besides, input methods etc. are not installed even when checked. (When starting l-s next time, other boxes than the translation box are unchecked again.) This is a rather serious issue, right? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Confirmed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
As regards the code, I think that LanguageSelector/LangCache.py is one important file. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Confirmed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
@Sebastien, As you may remember, we talked about this a few weeks ago, and agreed it was an issue then. However, for me it seems to have been fixed somehow, i.e. if I select a language for which more than translations are available, the applicable check boxes can be ticked. For instance, if I select Italian, the Spell checking and writing aids box can be ticked, and if I select Japanese, both the Input methods and Extra fonts boxes can be ticked. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 856217] Re: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc)
Hi Gunnar, thanks for commenting, I tested again on my laptop which has the recent 0.52 update and it still doesn't work for me, I've also tested on a french beta2 install yesterday without success. I've tried to select english, italian, german, only the translations can be ticked, for french I've the dictionnaries box checked (since I've those installed) and I can uncheck it but I can't do it for new languages ... do you know where is the code which checks if dictionnaries, etc are available for the locale? ** Also affects: language-selector (Ubuntu Oneiric) Importance: High Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) Status: Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856217 Title: Let you install only the translations (not the input methods, dictionnaries, etc) Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “language-selector” source package in Oneiric: Confirmed Bug description: The Oneiric beta2 version seems to only let you install langpacks but not the dictionnaries, input methods, etc * open language-selector * click on add,remove * select a language and look the boxes at the bottom, only the translation one can be ticked To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/856217/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
