Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

[Bruce Snyder]

Please send a separate and specific message to the two lists with Nabble in
the subject, e.g., Trouble posting to the mailing list from Nabble?
Something specific that will jump out at readers.

Bruce

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:26 PM Justin Bertram  wrote:

> JB's original email went to the users list. Is that sufficient or do you
> think there needs to be something more?
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bruce Snyder 
> wrote:
>
> > This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to
> the
> > users@activemq list moderated out.
> >
> > Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
> > dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
> > from the Nabble side?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
> > >
> > > Thanks !
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I created pull request
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> > remove
> > > > the nabble link from the contact page.
> > > >
> > > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> > linked
> > > > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > > > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > > >
> > > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if
> it
> > > > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions
> on
> > > > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > > >
> > > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E > http://bsnyder.org/ 
> >
>


-- 
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://bsnyder.org/ 

Re: Disaster Recovery + ActiveMQ 5 Mirroring Implementation

[Clebert Suconic]

That was just a brain storm BTW.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 6:17 PM Clebert Suconic 
wrote:

>
> @Robbie Gemmel perhaps we could make this an standardized extension to
> AMQP Spec ?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:57 PM Hossack, Etienne
>  wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Lots of attention on disaster recovery recently in the cloud space, and
>> with the dual mirror approach in Artemis via AMQP, I'm interested in doing
>> some alignment.
>> We (Amazon MQ) would like to build a similar feature to Artemis AMQP
>> mirrors into ActiveMQ 5.17.X (or later depending on release frequency).
>> I would also like to present high-level DR concepts clearly on the
>> website, and for their respective docs (website page for ActiveMQ 5 docs,
>> and extract+expand out the DR portion from AMQP in the Artemis docs).
>>
>> To this end I created two Jiras AMQ-8354 and AMQ-8355 to encapsulate the
>> work and facilitate implementation details - I can create an ARTEMIS issue
>> too for the doc work if it’s best.
>>
>> I’ve spoken to JB and Clebert about some thoughts and the mirror approach
>> in general, and although I can’t say if the older codebase can support the
>> exact same features - there's definitely some underlying technological
>> differences between the brokers - but my strong preference is for a
>> consistent approach between the two, and mirroring as a concept is not
>> engine specific.
>>
>> If anyone has suggestions or has already spent time thinking about this,
>> I think the Jiras probably make the most sense for tech details - but
>> wanted to let the dev list know about our intent first, and can summarize
>> any following conversation on the list into the tickets.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Étienne Hossack
>> Software Development Engineer, Amazon MQ
>> email: ehoss...@amazon.com 
>>
>>
>> --
> Clebert Suconic
>
-- 
Clebert Suconic

Re: Disaster Recovery + ActiveMQ 5 Mirroring Implementation

[Clebert Suconic]

@Robbie Gemmel perhaps we could make this an standardized extension to AMQP
Spec ?



On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:57 PM Hossack, Etienne
 wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Lots of attention on disaster recovery recently in the cloud space, and
> with the dual mirror approach in Artemis via AMQP, I'm interested in doing
> some alignment.
> We (Amazon MQ) would like to build a similar feature to Artemis AMQP
> mirrors into ActiveMQ 5.17.X (or later depending on release frequency).
> I would also like to present high-level DR concepts clearly on the
> website, and for their respective docs (website page for ActiveMQ 5 docs,
> and extract+expand out the DR portion from AMQP in the Artemis docs).
>
> To this end I created two Jiras AMQ-8354 and AMQ-8355 to encapsulate the
> work and facilitate implementation details - I can create an ARTEMIS issue
> too for the doc work if it’s best.
>
> I’ve spoken to JB and Clebert about some thoughts and the mirror approach
> in general, and although I can’t say if the older codebase can support the
> exact same features - there's definitely some underlying technological
> differences between the brokers - but my strong preference is for a
> consistent approach between the two, and mirroring as a concept is not
> engine specific.
>
> If anyone has suggestions or has already spent time thinking about this, I
> think the Jiras probably make the most sense for tech details - but wanted
> to let the dev list know about our intent first, and can summarize any
> following conversation on the list into the tickets.
>
> Cheers,
> Étienne Hossack
> Software Development Engineer, Amazon MQ
> email: ehoss...@amazon.com 
>
>
> --
Clebert Suconic

Disaster Recovery + ActiveMQ 5 Mirroring Implementation

[Hossack, Etienne]

Hey all,

Lots of attention on disaster recovery recently in the cloud space, and with 
the dual mirror approach in Artemis via AMQP, I'm interested in doing some 
alignment.
We (Amazon MQ) would like to build a similar feature to Artemis AMQP mirrors 
into ActiveMQ 5.17.X (or later depending on release frequency).
I would also like to present high-level DR concepts clearly on the website, and 
for their respective docs (website page for ActiveMQ 5 docs, and extract+expand 
out the DR portion from AMQP in the Artemis docs).

To this end I created two Jiras AMQ-8354 and AMQ-8355 to encapsulate the work 
and facilitate implementation details - I can create an ARTEMIS issue too for 
the doc work if it’s best.

I’ve spoken to JB and Clebert about some thoughts and the mirror approach in 
general, and although I can’t say if the older codebase can support the exact 
same features - there's definitely some underlying technological differences 
between the brokers - but my strong preference is for a consistent approach 
between the two, and mirroring as a concept is not engine specific.

If anyone has suggestions or has already spent time thinking about this, I 
think the Jiras probably make the most sense for tech details - but wanted to 
let the dev list know about our intent first, and can summarize any following 
conversation on the list into the tickets.

Cheers,
Étienne Hossack
Software Development Engineer, Amazon MQ
email: ehoss...@amazon.com

[cid:0CFB4B72-BC66-42A8-953C-779D7FAE3DC0@amazon.com]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

[Justin Bertram]

JB's original email went to the users list. Is that sufficient or do you
think there needs to be something more?


Justin

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bruce Snyder  wrote:

> This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to the
> users@activemq list moderated out.
>
> Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
> dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
> from the Nabble side?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
>
> > Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I created pull request
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to
> remove
> > > the nabble link from the contact page.
> > >
> > > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums
> linked
> > > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> > >
> > > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> > > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> > > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> > >
> > > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> >
>
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E http://bsnyder.org/ 
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

[Bruce Snyder]

This explains why someone contacted me today about having their post to the
users@activemq list moderated out.

Can someone please send a message to both the users@activemq and
dev@activemq lists to let people know that this is definitely a problem
from the Nabble side?

Bruce

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:

> Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)
>
> Thanks !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I created pull request
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove
> > the nabble link from the contact page.
> >
> > Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked
> > to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several
> > Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.
> >
> > Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it
> > doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on
> > slack should moved to mailing list at some point).
> >
> > If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
>


-- 
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://bsnyder.org/ 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Justin already merged the PR, so I guess we are good ;)

Thanks !

Regards
JB

On 13/08/2021 16:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys,

I created pull request 
https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove 
the nabble link from the contact page.


Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked 
to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several 
Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.


Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it 
doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on 
slack should moved to mailing list at some point).


If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.

Thanks,
Regards
JB

[PROPOSAL] Remove nabble links from website

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi guys,

I created pull request 
https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/pull/56 on website to remove 
the nabble link from the contact page.


Since nabble downgraded their servers capacity, a bunch of forums linked 
to mailing list are not available anymore. It's the case for several 
Apache projects, including Apache ActiveMQ.


Users should use mailing list and eventually slack (but remember, if it 
doesn't happen on the mailing list, it never happens, so discussions on 
slack should moved to mailing list at some point).


If there's no objection, I will merge PR #56.

Thanks,
Regards
JB