RE: Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
I see... it's funny that you need Ant to build Ant
properly... It would seem to me that if you 
need to debug something about a Tool, you can't
really use it the Tool to build itself could you?

But anyway, you are right... I should have
used the build file.  Newbie mistake, didn't
realize that the tool would use itself to
build.

Thanks for the patience,
Filip

Turns out my problem isn't with Ant but with
the URL encoder in java... Ant Uses it and hence
I thought it was an ant problem... but Ant is 
now vindicated :D



-Original Message-
From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:45 PM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: Re: Anybody?


Filip Balas wrote:
> In the following 2 files:
> Xalan1Executor.java
> XslpLiaison.java
> 
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTInputSource;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessor;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessorFactory;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTResultTarget;
> 
> PS
> I don't know what anything does, I'm just trying
> to get this thing to compile so I can start trying
> to understand it as I play... this is proving
> non-trivial.
> 
> It is concerning how many dependancies Ant has
> on other projects, is this normal for open source?
> 

These items are present for backward compatibility. Some may be 
candidates for retirement but not everyone is in a position to be using 
the latest and greatest version of each component.

Ant has many *optional* external dependencies but they are managed by 
the Ant build file. If they are not present you get an Ant build without 
them. How are you trying to build this stuff? Is it with Ant?

To give you some idea, check out these components in the Ant build as an 
example

   
 
   

   

   

These are from different parts of Ant's build - try searching for xslp 
or xalan1.

Conor

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RE: Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Well the way I'm trying to do the build is
simply importing the source folder into an
eclipse project and trying to build it.

When you do that, there are over 20 libraries 
(I stopped after that and and started excluding
files) that you need to make it compile.

I'm guessing that since it is percieved that
Ant has little in the way of dependencies, that
the dependencies that I encountered must be
for optional tasks that are not normally 
built, but are included in the source anyway.

Since this is my first time ever looking at
the ant source, I was unaware of what should
and shouldn't be compiled (not much in the way
of documentation on that).  But you live, you
learn...

Cheers,
Filip

-Original Message-
From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:02 PM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: RE: Anybody?


Ant has very little in the way of dependencies.  If
you are unable to build Ant from source, it's not
because of the external dependencies.  Back up and
tell us how you are trying to do the build.

-Matt

--- Filip Balas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the following 2 files:
> Xalan1Executor.java
> XslpLiaison.java
> 
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTInputSource;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessor;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessorFactory;
> import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTResultTarget;
> 
> PS
> I don't know what anything does, I'm just trying
> to get this thing to compile so I can start trying
> to understand it as I play... this is proving
> non-trivial.
> 
> It is concerning how many dependancies Ant has
> on other projects, is this normal for open source?
> 
> -Filip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: Ant Developers List
> Subject: RE: Anybody?
> 
> 
> --- Filip Balas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > I'm just not getting any messages whatsoever,
> other
> > than the one you just sent... I found that rather
> > strange if there are 'lots of folks' on the list.
> > 
> > Is there any reason why Ant is using such old 
> > libraries? (ie. Xalan 1.0 when 2.6 is available)
> > 
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but where is Ant explicitly
> using
> a particular version of Xalan?
> 
> -Matt
> 
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Easy out Solution...

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Nevermind...
I give up.  Just going to exclude from
the build every file that depends on something
wacky.  Hopefully this won't break anything.

Filip Balas

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RE: Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
In the following 2 files:
Xalan1Executor.java
XslpLiaison.java

import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTInputSource;
import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessor;
import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTProcessorFactory;
import org.apache.xalan.xslt.XSLTResultTarget;

PS
I don't know what anything does, I'm just trying
to get this thing to compile so I can start trying
to understand it as I play... this is proving
non-trivial.

It is concerning how many dependancies Ant has
on other projects, is this normal for open source?

-Filip


-Original Message-
From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:16 PM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: RE: Anybody?


--- Filip Balas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks,
> 
> I'm just not getting any messages whatsoever, other
> than the one you just sent... I found that rather
> strange if there are 'lots of folks' on the list.
> 
> Is there any reason why Ant is using such old 
> libraries? (ie. Xalan 1.0 when 2.6 is available)
> 

Pardon my ignorance, but where is Ant explicitly using
a particular version of Xalan?

-Matt



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RE: Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Why would a User have any interest in Building
Ant?  This is a developer question as building 
Ant is what a developer does, a User simply 
installs and uses a built version of Ant.  
Therefore the question is to the appropriate 
group.

-Filip

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:10 PM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: RE: Anybody?


You are asking a user question on  the developer list.

Try asking your question about getting resources to build
Ant on the users list.

-Original Message-
From: Filip Balas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:52 PM
To: Ant Developer Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Anybody?


Is anybody on this list?

Filip Balas

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RE: Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Thanks,

I'm just not getting any messages whatsoever, other
than the one you just sent... I found that rather
strange if there are 'lots of folks' on the list.

Is there any reason why Ant is using such old 
libraries? (ie. Xalan 1.0 when 2.6 is available)

Filip

-Original Message-
From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: Re: Anybody?


--- Filip Balas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anybody on this list?
> 

Lots of folks...

-Matt



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Anybody?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Is anybody on this list?

Filip Balas

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Required Packages?

2004-06-28 Thread Filip Balas
Does anyone know where I can download
all of the packages required to get Ant to 
compile.

I have wasted 2 hours searching the net 
for these various packages (shouldn't they
be included with the source download under
lib?) and have found that some of them are
no longer supported and therefore, not available
for download anymore (i.e. xalan1.2.2).

Can someone please direct me to a link where
I can find these libraries and/or send me a zip
file with the required jars and I will post it on
the web so that others don't have to go through
this if they wish to debug Ant!!!

Thanks,
Filip Balas


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