Re: AW: Fileset and Custom Fileset in Ant 1.7

2005-09-28 Thread JP Fiset
I believe I do, but if you can prove me wrong, then I'd be delighted to 
go around custom files sets.


I am trying to provide file selectors in svn-ant, which is an ant 
library that support subversion. Subversion keeps track of files that 
are deleted and missing. If I want to write an ant task where all 
missing files are restored, then the classic file set is not sufficient. 
I created a new file set that queries the subversion client for all 
files, regardless of whether they are present on the file system or not. 
Since there are already existing ant tasks based on file sets to perform 
restoring operations, using the custom file set allows re-using the same 
code but with the ability to specify files that are, as far as the file 
system is concerned, non-existent.


I can not see a way around it, since the classic file set can not 
predict files that are not on the file system. I know that creating a 
custom file set that returns paths of non-existing files is a departure 
from what is generally accepted of a file set, however mis-use of the 
custom file set will result in  a task failure. For example:



   



   


will fail. But, this weird behaviour is just a nuisance compared to the 
great benefits of something like this:



   
   
  
  
   



   


Tell me what you think. I am in the development stage for this feature, 
and I have yet to submit the patch to svn-ant. This is a good time to 
influence the design.


JP

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And you should ensure that you _really_ need a fileset.
2 years ago (or so) I wanted to write a new fileset and end on a selector.

Jan 
  




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Re: suggestion refactor SCM

2005-09-27 Thread JP Fiset
It certainly is an interesting idea. I think the main challenge in this 
endeavour is to figure out what is the common denominator between all 
the SCM systems and then assess if it is encompassing enough to warrant 
abstracting it out.


I wish this effort will not be limited to tasks, but will also include 
file sets and file selectors, since I feel it is necessary in managing a 
source repository properly. For example, in svn-ant (the subversion ant 
lib), I implemented file selectors to discriminate files based on status 
such as: added, replaced, unversioned, ignored, etc. That, in itself, 
was not enough. I needed to also provide a file set, since subversion 
has a concept of "missing" and "deleted" files. Obviously, a classic 
file set can not predict files that are not present on the file system, 
so a custom file set had to be designed.


While tasks might have to be limited to common functionality (why 
develop a script based on a task that keeps failing on a majority of SCM 
systems), file selectors can combine the richness of all SCM systems. If 
a SCM system does not support a concept, then the related file selector 
would never tag any file. Scripts based on those file selectors would be 
valid, regardless of the underlying SCM system.


JP

Kev Jackson wrote:

Hi

I've been playing with darcs recently and I've almost finished an 
antlib for it (though I keep being distracted, first Haskell, now 
Lisp).


'darcs get' is roughly similar to 'cvs checkout' or 'svn co'

I was wondering if it would make sense to refactor the SCM tasks into 
an interface (scm) and have a set of antlibs that implement that 
interface in a vendor specific manner.  Such that




is handled appropriately by each SCM system in it's own way, whilst at 
the same time exposing a common API to simplify this (very common) set 
of tasks.  I'm thinking it'd be similar to how the  task 
simplifies compiling regardless of which compiler you want to use.


Is this:
a - a stupid idea and a colossal waste of time
b - a not too stupid idea, but still a colossal waste of time
c - not stupid, a colossal waste of time, but it'd be worth doing anyway
d - none of the above

Kev

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Fileset and Custom Fileset in Ant 1.7

2005-09-21 Thread JP Fiset
I am interested in developing a custom fileset. After reading the mail 
archives, it appears that much work is currently happening to allow 
custom file sets in 1.7.  Looking at the trunk implementation, I see 
that this change will affect all fileset-based tasks.


Can anyone comment on the impact of those changes as to the 
compatibility of fileset-based tasks between 1.6 and 1.7?


After reviewing the code (without testing my assumptions), it looks like:
1. Fileset-based tasks written to take advantage of ResourceCollection 
instead of FileSet will not run in Ant prior to 1.7
2. Fileset-based tasks written prior to 1.7 (dependent on FileSet) will 
not be able to support custom file sets, even if running in 1.7


Are my assumptions right?

JP

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