Re: [Ant Wiki] Update of "Ant17/Planning" by SteveLoughran

[Steve Loughran]

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+  * Beta1May/June 2005?


Dr. Emmet Brown, I presume?  ;)



hey, all software deadlines are unrealistic and impossible to meet. I 
just picked one that was blatantly so due to time not being reversible 
within our local light-cone, rather than set a date of two weeks in the 
future which is only plausible in the eyes of management.


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I believe he is the inventor of the flux capacitor, which makes
time travel possible[1]

Am I right?

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[1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/

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> Antoine
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Re: [Ant Wiki] Update of "Ant17/Planning" by SteveLoughran

[Antoine Levy-Lambert]

Hi,

who is Dr Emmet Brown ?

Regards,

Antoine

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[Ant Wiki] Update of "Ant17/Planning" by SteveLoughran

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Test Matrix. 

--
   * Fix for key IDE bugs (see eclipse, netbeans bugzillas) [all]
   *  to allow adding of jars to the current classloader (would 
solve a ''lot'' of problems at the cost of some issues) 
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28228 [peter] (status RE 
"some issues" risk? -MJB)
   * eliminate obsolete functionality depending upon dead third party libraries 
: vaj, xslp, icontract
+  * Junit 4 integration to a level that Ant-dev and junit are happy.
  
  === ''Must Have'' Features Implemented ===
  
@@ -86, +87 @@

  
  * Forking RMIC broken; fix or pull.
  
+ == Testing ==
+ 
+ Platforms to test on. We may want to formally remove support for platforms 
that are unsupported by their vendor. That means Java1.2 and Win98.
+ 
+ Linux Platforms should cover common distros: RHEL, Suse. Debian (Ubuntu)?. 
SysV Unix can be delegated to the vendors, say AIX and HPUX. Solaris is also a 
possibility, if a VMware image is available. 
+ 
+ == MUST Pass ==
+ 
+ * Java1.3-1.5, WinXP
+ * Java1.3-1.5, Linux 
+ * Java1.3-1.5, SysV Unix
+ * Java1.3-1.5, BSD Unix
+ * Java1.3-1.5, MacOS X
+ 
+ == SHOULD Pass ==
+ 
+ * Java1.5, Recent Vista Snapshot
+ * Java1.6 beta, Linux
+ * Java1.6 beta, WinXP
+ * Java1.6 beta, SysV Unix
+ * Java1.6 beta, BSD Unix
+ * Recent Java, Netware
+ 
+ === MAY Pass ===
+ 
+ * Java 1.5, Win9x. (Steve has a VMWare image for this)
+ * Java1.6 beta, Recent Vista Snapshot (Steve has a VMWare image for this)
+ * Java1.6 beta, MacOS X (Is there a beta here?)
+ * OpenVMS, Any Java
+ 
  == WONTFIX ==
  
  Definitely not in this release. Pull stuff down here when scrubbed from the 
previous lists.

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> +  * Beta1May/June 2005?

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timetable?

--
  
  == Milestones ==
  
-  * Beta1
-  * Beta2
-  * RC1
-  * Release
+  * Beta1May/June 2005?
+  * Beta2Beta 1+ four weeks
+  * (feature frozen, branch the repository?)
+  * RC1  Beta 2+ four weeks
+  * Release  RC1 + four weeks
+ 
+ Features can still be added during the Beta phase, in the RC1/Release period 
bug fixes and feature removal only. 
  
  === Projects we depend on and their forthcoming releases ===
  

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Look at the want list and feature scrub it

--
  
   * Xerces. We redist this, so should get a late release.
   * Xalan
-  * JUnit (stable)
+  * JUnit (stable). Stick to Junit 3.8.2; 4.0 is trouble. But we should test 
on it.
   * Java
  
  === Projects that depend upon us, and their cutoff dates ===
  
-  * Eclipse 3.1 in June, would need Ant1.7 Monday May 9th, 2005
-  * Net``Beans 4.x - currently no significant requirements
+  * Eclipse 
+  * Net``Beans 
   * IntelliJ IDEA  (5.0 expected in the summer)
   * JEdit (less tightly coupled)
  
  = Features =
  
+ 
  == ''Must Have'' Features ==
  
  These are the features that hold the build; fallbacks to be listed. To add 
something here you must be prepared to implement it, or know someone who is. 
Everything needs a name.
  
-  * SVN support by exec [stefan] (considered done w/ svn antlib? -MJB)
-  * Local variables in macrodef
   * Fix for key IDE bugs (see eclipse, netbeans bugzillas) [all]
-  * flatten in libraries to WAR/EAR somehow (related to ) [stevel?] 
(libraries status? -MJB)
   *  to allow adding of jars to the current classloader (would 
solve a ''lot'' of problems at the cost of some issues) 
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28228 [peter] (status RE 
"some issues" risk? -MJB)
   * eliminate obsolete functionality depending upon dead third party libraries 
: vaj, xslp, icontract
  
  === ''Must Have'' Features Implemented ===
  
   * tests for , make sure the task works properly; force fork=true.
+  * SVN support by exec [stefan] (considered done w/ svn antlib? -MJB)
+ 
+ === ''Must Have'' Features Downgraded ===
+ 
+  * Local variables in macrodef. ant-contrib  gives you this, though we 
could make it easier to mutate properties for them.
+  * flatten in libraries to WAR/EAR somehow (related to ) [stevel?] 
(libraries status? -MJB)
+The workaround is to  things; its not too hard and lets you see what 
you are including.
+ 
+ 
  
  == ''Want'' Features ==
  

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added idea of java1.5 distro; moved some others around.

--
  These are the features that hold the build; fallbacks to be listed. To add 
something here you must be prepared to implement it, or know someone who is. 
Everything needs a name.
  
   * SVN support by exec [stefan]
-  * Security on , document task. [stevel]
+  * : maven2, security. [stevel]
   * Local variables in macrodef
   * Fix for key IDE bugs (see eclipse, netbeans bugzillas) [all]
   * flatten in libraries to WAR/EAR somehow (related to ) [stevel?]
   *  to allow adding of jars to the current classloader (would 
solve a ''lot'' of problems at the cost of some issues) 
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28228 [peter]
-  * tests for , make sure the task works properly. 
+  * tests for , make sure the task works properly; force fork=true.
  
  
  == ''Want'' Features ==
@@ -48, +48 @@

   * Java1.5 environment fetching. Ideally as part of a rework of 
Execute.getProcessEnv()
   * Doc improvements.
   *  in java tasks for loading properties straight from a file.
-  * reduce number of outstanding bugzilla ''bugs'' by fixing them.
+  * reduce number of outstanding bugzilla ''bugs'' by fixing them or declaring 
WONTFIX/Invalid.
   * reduce number of outstanding bugzilla ''enhancements'' by implementing 
some, or closing them off.
   * include fetch.xml in redist package
   * add FileCollections (for arbitrary groups of files) and retrofit to 
appropriate tasks (mbenson)
@@ -65, +65 @@

   * : multi repository support a la maven.
   * security hardening. "locking down...or giving the opportunity to lock 
down; e.g. secure class loading, working with digital certs, etc..." Rated as 
'like' because of the difficulty.
   * Look at all SCM tasks and pull in pending patches for new features. Find 
people to test them.
+  * Lightweight Java1.5 distro without Xerces. 
+ 
+ === ''Like'' Features Implemented ===
+ 
   * rename junit.jar to junit-3.8.1 in SCM, for  integration. As 
this is only in lib/optional, effects should be minimal (i.e. rename wont be 
visible to end users) [done].
-  *  to do signature checking (identify signatory). Code could be 
shared w/ librarie's isSigned policy
  
  
  == Bugs to Fix ==
@@ -78, +81 @@

  == WONTFIX ==
  
  Definitely not in this release. Pull stuff down here when scrubbed from the 
previous lists.
+  *  to do signature checking (identify signatory). fundamentally 
impossible.
  

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