Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
Thank you all for your replies. My last question never got answered (the one about re-selecting a multi selection), so I guess I should ask it again in a new thread and also do more experiments on my own. Johnny Andersson 2007/4/17, Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Johnny Andersson wrote: In your example you go for an object directly: ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0). In my example I do like this to obtain the same (?) thing: ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0) Simplified explanation: in Basic this is the same. In fact the first variant is automatically translated into the second one internally as the real C++ objects only understand that one. My thought was something like since there is a method, it is probably supposed to be used. That's not like Basic developers want to have it. :-) So we added the syntactic sugar to our Basic to meet expectations. On the other hand, if ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0) is possible to do, that object is obviously not private, so I should feel free to use it. *Every* object is private in UNO based development. There is no way to access any data of a UNO object directly, not in Basic and not in any other programming language. Private doesn't mean not accessible. It means that you can access the bits of it of directly, only its interface. This is the basic building principle of UNO and there is no way to circumvent it. So an object TheObject might contain another object TheSubObject. In UNO API it might expose this object by offering the method getTheSubObject() or even allow to overwrite this object with another instance by offering the method setTheSubObject(). Basic analyses the API of the UNO object at runtime and every time when it finds a getSomething() method in it it simulates a property type member of the Basic object representing the UNO object. If it also finds a setSomething() method it allows to assign an instance to it otherwise the property is read-only. So in my example you can write TheObject.TheSubObject.doSomething() if TheObject has this getTheSubObject method and the returned object has a method doSomething. Which is the proper way to do things? Is the rule that if a variable or an object is private, use their methods, otherwise manipulate them directly? As I said, you can't manipulate any UNO object directly, whatever syntax you use. You always use its UNO interface, with sugar in Basic or without in C++ or Java. In Basic you should take the simpler syntax to improve the readability of your code but that's a matter of taste. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Please don't reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
Johnny Andersson wrote: In your example you go for an object directly: ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0). In my example I do like this to obtain the same (?) thing: ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0) Simplified explanation: in Basic this is the same. In fact the first variant is automatically translated into the second one internally as the real C++ objects only understand that one. My thought was something like since there is a method, it is probably supposed to be used. That's not like Basic developers want to have it. :-) So we added the syntactic sugar to our Basic to meet expectations. On the other hand, if ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0) is possible to do, that object is obviously not private, so I should feel free to use it. *Every* object is private in UNO based development. There is no way to access any data of a UNO object directly, not in Basic and not in any other programming language. Private doesn't mean not accessible. It means that you can access the bits of it of directly, only its interface. This is the basic building principle of UNO and there is no way to circumvent it. So an object TheObject might contain another object TheSubObject. In UNO API it might expose this object by offering the method getTheSubObject() or even allow to overwrite this object with another instance by offering the method setTheSubObject(). Basic analyses the API of the UNO object at runtime and every time when it finds a getSomething() method in it it simulates a property type member of the Basic object representing the UNO object. If it also finds a setSomething() method it allows to assign an instance to it otherwise the property is read-only. So in my example you can write TheObject.TheSubObject.doSomething() if TheObject has this getTheSubObject method and the returned object has a method doSomething. Which is the proper way to do things? Is the rule that if a variable or an object is private, use their methods, otherwise manipulate them directly? As I said, you can't manipulate any UNO object directly, whatever syntax you use. You always use its UNO interface, with sugar in Basic or without in C++ or Java. In Basic you should take the simpler syntax to improve the readability of your code but that's a matter of taste. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Please don't reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
2007/4/17, Paolo Mantovani [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alle 00:31, martedì 17 aprile 2007, Johnny Andersson ha scritto: I have a small problem that I just can't figure out at these late hours (00:13 right now): I have written a macro that reads highlighted text and replaces it with something else (which is calculated by the macro). To read the highlighted text I use ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection ().getByIndex(0).getString(). This caused me no problems, however I couldn't figure out the parameter in getByIndex(0). Why 0? What does it mean? 0 what? I tried 1 and 2 but they only caused errors. Because the getCurrentSelection() method in writer normally gets a com.sun.star.text.TextRanges (that is a container) In general it contains at least one TextRange, but in case of multiple selection it contains more elements. Use the getCount() method to discover how many TextRanges are actually selected Oh, I see. I didn't realize that it was possible to have more than one selection in Writer (I knew it's possible in Calc though), but a quick test with the Ctrl key certainly proves to me that it's possible. Yes, maybe I should include that possibility in my macro, so not only the first (or rather 0th...) selection is handled. Ok, I guess I can figure that one out myself with some help from Google, so here is my real question: When I replace the highlighted text, I do that with ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0).setString(MyString). The problem is that I want the new inserted string also to be highlighted, so I can perform the macro on it without having to highlight it manually. Any ideas? Is there some better way to do this? Just an example to illustrate what I mean: [] Hoping that I have correctly understood your example, the following code should do (more or less) what you need. Check the Andrew Pitonyak's macro document for better techniques and examples ---8--- REM * BASIC * Sub Main oRange = ThisComponent.currentselection(0) oText = oRange.getText() oCursor = oText.createTextCursorByRange(oRange) bAbsorb = True oText.insertString( oRange, new string, bAbsorb) 'restore selection ThisComponent.CurrentController.select(oRange) End Sub ---8--- ciao Paolo M I haven't tried your suggestion yet, but I will as soon as possible. Just one follow-up-question, if you don't mind: The objects we are talking about here, ThisComponent and its sub objects (or whatever I should call them), contain other objects, variables and methods etc, right? Many years ago when I studied some C++ (which I never used since then, sorry...) I was told that when created classes, it was a good idea to keep variables private and do most things with them through public local methods. To me it felt like the proper thing to do is to always use local methods for everything, when it comes to changing values and contents of things. In your example you go for an object directly: ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0). In my example I do like this to obtain the same (?) thing: ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0) My thought was something like since there is a method, it is probably supposed to be used. On the other hand, if ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0) is possible to do, that object is obviously not private, so I should feel free to use it. Which is the proper way to do things? Is the rule that if a variable or an object is private, use their methods, otherwise manipulate them directly? Or is it always use the method designed for what you want to do with the variable/object? Or is it something else? Johnny Andersson
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
I was playing around a bit with the ThisComponent.CurrentSelection.getCount() function and I found that when I had one selection, ThisComponent.CurrentSelection.getCount() returned 1, but when I had more than one selection (and I am still talking about Writer), ThisComponent.CurrentSelection.getCount() returned the number of selections + 1 for some reason. In the same case, ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0).getText() returns an empty string. ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(1).getText() and ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(2).getText() contains what's selected, however. Is this what always happens or did I do something wrong? I tried it a few times only. Do I have to check for this or can I just assume that if ThisComponent.CurrentSelection.getCount() 1 then ThisComponent.CurrentSelection(0).getText() is always empty? Johnny Andersson
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
I am sorry to bother again. Actually, i made the whole thing to work properly now. However i ran into a new problem: I modified the macro to make it possible to handle several selections. The problem is, that when i restore the selection, ThisComponent.CurrentController.select(oRange) in your example, I can only restore one selection. I have tried for some hours now to make it possible to restore a multi-selection, but I failed constantly. Let's say that I highlight three parts in a text, by clicking and dragging while the Ctrl key is held. Then the macro can handle each one of them, that's no problem. I get my text replaced and everything is OK, until the end of the macro. So what do I want to happen at the end? Well, I want to restore the selections. Not just one of them, ALL of them. Just to make it possible to run the same macro again on the same selections. I use some global variables to record what the macro did last time, and next time I run it I want it to do something else to the same text. Well, if you really want to know, I am trying to make my own Uppercase-Lowercase conversion, to use instead of the built in Change Case function. I am also doing it to learn about macros. So I assigned the macro to Shift+F3. My thought is that first time I hit Shift+F3, all selected characters are converted to Uppercase. Second time the macro is run, it will convert to lowercase (if the selection didn't change since last time). Third time, it will convert to Sentence case (first letter after . (point + space) and after : will be Uppercase, other characters won't change). Fourth time, it's Title Case. Fifth time it toggles from the ORIGINAL case (which therefore has to be remembered the first time the macro runs on a specific selection/multi selection). Sixth time it toggles back again to its original state. Seventh time is the same as first time and so on. So, that's why the multi selection needs to stay there after the macro finished. At the moment I just can not figure out (maybe because I am really stupid) how to do this. Everything else is working and it works as long as I don't do multi selections. Johnny Andersson
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
Am 17.04.2007 11:45 schrieb Johnny Andersson: Is this what always happens or did I do something wrong? I think no (twice). I filed a issue: http://api.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76449 Greetings MRoe -- ·-· cut here ·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-8·-· - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
Mathias Röllig wrote: Am 17.04.2007 11:45 schrieb Johnny Andersson: Is this what always happens or did I do something wrong? I think no (twice). I filed a issue: http://api.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76449 Greetings MRoe I replied to the issue, but I would have said that it was not a bug. I provided code to demonstrate what is really happening here. It may be a bug, but it has been this way since version 1.0. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
I have a small problem that I just can't figure out at these late hours (00:13 right now): I have written a macro that reads highlighted text and replaces it with something else (which is calculated by the macro). To read the highlighted text I use ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection ().getByIndex(0).getString(). This caused me no problems, however I couldn't figure out the parameter in getByIndex(0). Why 0? What does it mean? 0 what? I tried 1 and 2 but they only caused errors. Ok, I guess I can figure that one out myself with some help from Google, so here is my real question: When I replace the highlighted text, I do that with ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0).setString(MyString). The problem is that I want the new inserted string also to be highlighted, so I can perform the macro on it without having to highlight it manually. Any ideas? Is there some better way to do this? Just an example to illustrate what I mean: Here is a sentence that will *illustrate* my example. I hope you can see that one word (illustrate) in the sentence above is underlined. That is supposed to illustrate that it is highlighted. Ok, now I run my macro (this is a fake example, my macro does something else) and now it looks like this: Here is a sentence that will show my example. As you hopefully can see, nothing is now underlined, however the cursor is placed right after the word show. What I want, is that the word shows in this case should be highlighted after the macro was run: Here is a sentence that will *show* my example. This would make it possible to run the macro once again and get the following result (still a fake example): Here is a sentence that will *help you to understand* my example. And so on... Thanks in advance Johnny Andersson
Re: [api-dev] Replaceing selected text with Basic Macro
Alle 00:31, martedì 17 aprile 2007, Johnny Andersson ha scritto: I have a small problem that I just can't figure out at these late hours (00:13 right now): I have written a macro that reads highlighted text and replaces it with something else (which is calculated by the macro). To read the highlighted text I use ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection ().getByIndex(0).getString(). This caused me no problems, however I couldn't figure out the parameter in getByIndex(0). Why 0? What does it mean? 0 what? I tried 1 and 2 but they only caused errors. Because the getCurrentSelection() method in writer normally gets a com.sun.star.text.TextRanges (that is a container) In general it contains at least one TextRange, but in case of multiple selection it contains more elements. Use the getCount() method to discover how many TextRanges are actually selected Ok, I guess I can figure that one out myself with some help from Google, so here is my real question: When I replace the highlighted text, I do that with ThisComponent.getCurrentSelection().getByIndex(0).setString(MyString). The problem is that I want the new inserted string also to be highlighted, so I can perform the macro on it without having to highlight it manually. Any ideas? Is there some better way to do this? Just an example to illustrate what I mean: [] Hoping that I have correctly understood your example, the following code should do (more or less) what you need. Check the Andrew Pitonyak's macro document for better techniques and examples ---8--- REM * BASIC * Sub Main oRange = ThisComponent.currentselection(0) oText = oRange.getText() oCursor = oText.createTextCursorByRange(oRange) bAbsorb = True oText.insertString( oRange, new string, bAbsorb) 'restore selection ThisComponent.CurrentController.select(oRange) End Sub ---8--- ciao Paolo M - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
