Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > > +1 > >> On 25 June 2018 at 09:09, John D. Ament wrote: >> +1 >> >>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 10:40 AM Suneel Marthi wrote: >>> >>> In light of the discussion on >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E >>> >>> and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 >>> months and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this >>> is a call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. >>> >>> Please Vote : >>> >>> +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca >>> -1 = No, because . >>> >>> >>> Here's my +1. >>> >>> >>> Suneel
Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
+1 On 25 June 2018 at 09:09, John D. Ament wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 10:40 AM Suneel Marthi wrote: >> >> In light of the discussion on >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E >> >> and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 >> months and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this >> is a call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. >> >> Please Vote : >> >> +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca >> -1 = No, because . >> >> >> Here's my +1. >> >> >> Suneel
Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
+1 On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 10:40 AM Suneel Marthi wrote: > In light of the discussion on > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E > > and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 > months and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this > is a call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. > > Please Vote : > > +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca > -1 = No, because . > > > Here's my +1. > > > Suneel >
Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
+1 > On Jun 25, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > > In light of the discussion on > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E > > and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 months > and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this is a > call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. > > Please Vote : > > +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca > -1 = No, because . > > > Here's my +1. > > > Suneel
Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
... and this vote will remain open for 72 hrs ending on Thursday - June 28. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > In light of the discussion on https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ > ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@% > 3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E > > and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 > months and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this > is a call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. > > Please Vote : > > +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca > -1 = No, because . > > > Here's my +1. > > > Suneel >
Re: [VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
+1 On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:40 AM Suneel Marthi wrote: > In light of the discussion on > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E > > and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 months > and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this is a > call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. > > Please Vote : > > +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca > -1 = No, because . > > > Here's my +1. > > > Suneel >
[VOTE] Retire AriaTosca Podling
In light of the discussion on https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ccad17927b23573e0bef3062c98e7a72455415be959b2f5859ed6898@%3Cdev.ariatosca.apache.org%3E and given that the project has not seen any activity over the past 5 months and all of the active committers have no time for the project - this is a call for Vote to retire the AriaTosca podling. Please Vote : +1 = Yes,. Retire AriaTosca -1 = No, because . Here's my +1. Suneel
Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Tal Liron wrote: > Sadly, yes. > > Do you have a link the formal procedure? Does it need to be proposed in > private@ or here? > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:57 AM Thomas Nadeau > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > > > > > > Given that its been over a month since our last meeting about the > future > > of > > > AriaTosca - and wee have not heard back from Ericsson - I propose that > we > > > start a [DISCUSS] to retire this project. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > > > > > >> I actually think my work is not orthogonal... It is a complete TOSCA > > parser > > >> that can do a lot of what AriaTosca does, if not more, in that > respect. > > So, > > >> depending on what folk think about it my project, it might make since > to > > >> move development focus there. (It's also Apache licensed.) > > >> > > >> However, it does not exactly include an orchestrator. Instead, it > > targets > > >> Kubernetes, which does your orchestration for you. > > >> > > >> If folk want an AriaTosca-style orchestrator, I don't think it would > be > > too > > >> hard to add one. AriaTosca's orchestration is very simple. I have some > > >> thoughts for how to do so and can assist, though I am not personally > > >> interested in classical orchestration. A think a better option might > be > > to > > >> plug it into Cloudify Community Edition, which is a serious > > orchestrator. > > >> The Cloudify folk might be interested in assisting on that, since they > > do > > >> want TOSCA support in their product. > > >> > > >> I am planning on a public release on Monday, assuming I don't have to > > much > > >> fun this weekend. :) > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:20 PM Thomas Nadeau > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>>Tal’s work is orthogonal to the status of the project as we > > >>> discussed. Sunil’s > > >>> ‘ask’ hasn’t been addressed, which was your guys’ action from the > > meeting > > >>> we had about > > >>> 2 weeks ago now. > > >>> > > >>>—Tom > > >>> > > >>> > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:07 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > > >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > There are some internal delays anyway. But I thought we will be > having > > >>> for some info from Tal's work and assess the same, before we can > make a > > >>> final decision. > > > > Thanks, > > /Shen > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeaua...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:30 PM > > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > > Cc: smar...@apache.org > > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > > Minutes > > > > Guys, > > > > Its been a week (and well past “the end of this week”). Do you have > > any > > >>> updates ? > > > > —Tom > > > > > > > On May 30, 2018, at 1:01 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > > >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sunil, > > > > > > Give us couple of days. We are discussing around this topic. > > > I would come back by end of this week. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > /Shen > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Suneel Marthi [mailto:smar...@apache.org] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:30 AM > > > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > > > Minutes > > > > > > @DJ - any updates - we are due to submit the incubator report , let > > us > > >>> know by tomorrow as to what Ericsson's decision is. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Suneel Marthi > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks for the call this week. > > >> > > >> @DJ, please let us know by next week about Ericsson's decision. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Nadeau > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Discussing the Future of AriaTosca > > >>> > > >>> Monday, May 21, 2018 10-11AM EST > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Attendees: Tal, Ido, Shen, DJ, Tom Nadeau, Sunil > > >>> > > >>> Tom: Does anyone want to proceed forward with Aria and how? > > >>> DJ: Ericsson has been looking into this project/area. They > started > > >>> buildign the missing parts of Aria and wish to contirbute them > back > > >>> to the community. Initially we discussed these things with > Arthur > > >>> from Cloudify > > >>> (with Tal) and to help with our contirbutions. Other than that, > > we > > >>> were > > >>> always under the assumption that the communit was moving forward > > and > > >>> we thought we could contribute a few things. > > >>> > > >>> Most recently we have built a
Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes
Sadly, yes. Do you have a link the formal procedure? Does it need to be proposed in private@ or here? On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 7:57 AM Thomas Nadeau wrote: > +1 > > > On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > > > > Given that its been over a month since our last meeting about the future > of > > AriaTosca - and wee have not heard back from Ericsson - I propose that we > > start a [DISCUSS] to retire this project. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > > > >> I actually think my work is not orthogonal... It is a complete TOSCA > parser > >> that can do a lot of what AriaTosca does, if not more, in that respect. > So, > >> depending on what folk think about it my project, it might make since to > >> move development focus there. (It's also Apache licensed.) > >> > >> However, it does not exactly include an orchestrator. Instead, it > targets > >> Kubernetes, which does your orchestration for you. > >> > >> If folk want an AriaTosca-style orchestrator, I don't think it would be > too > >> hard to add one. AriaTosca's orchestration is very simple. I have some > >> thoughts for how to do so and can assist, though I am not personally > >> interested in classical orchestration. A think a better option might be > to > >> plug it into Cloudify Community Edition, which is a serious > orchestrator. > >> The Cloudify folk might be interested in assisting on that, since they > do > >> want TOSCA support in their product. > >> > >> I am planning on a public release on Monday, assuming I don't have to > much > >> fun this weekend. :) > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:20 PM Thomas Nadeau > >> wrote: > >> > >>>Tal’s work is orthogonal to the status of the project as we > >>> discussed. Sunil’s > >>> ‘ask’ hasn’t been addressed, which was your guys’ action from the > meeting > >>> we had about > >>> 2 weeks ago now. > >>> > >>>—Tom > >>> > >>> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:07 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > There are some internal delays anyway. But I thought we will be having > >>> for some info from Tal's work and assess the same, before we can make a > >>> final decision. > > Thanks, > /Shen > > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeaua...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:30 PM > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > Cc: smar...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > Minutes > > Guys, > > Its been a week (and well past “the end of this week”). Do you have > any > >>> updates ? > > —Tom > > > > On May 30, 2018, at 1:01 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Sunil, > > > > Give us couple of days. We are discussing around this topic. > > I would come back by end of this week. > > > > Thanks, > > /Shen > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Suneel Marthi [mailto:smar...@apache.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:30 AM > > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > > Minutes > > > > @DJ - any updates - we are due to submit the incubator report , let > us > >>> know by tomorrow as to what Ericsson's decision is. > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Suneel Marthi > >>> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the call this week. > >> > >> @DJ, please let us know by next week about Ericsson's decision. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Nadeau > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Discussing the Future of AriaTosca > >>> > >>> Monday, May 21, 2018 10-11AM EST > >>> > >>> > >>> Attendees: Tal, Ido, Shen, DJ, Tom Nadeau, Sunil > >>> > >>> Tom: Does anyone want to proceed forward with Aria and how? > >>> DJ: Ericsson has been looking into this project/area. They started > >>> buildign the missing parts of Aria and wish to contirbute them back > >>> to the community. Initially we discussed these things with Arthur > >>> from Cloudify > >>> (with Tal) and to help with our contirbutions. Other than that, > we > >>> were > >>> always under the assumption that the communit was moving forward > and > >>> we thought we could contribute a few things. > >>> > >>> Most recently we have built a lot of components around Aria > >>> (including Tosca 1.1). Issue is there are no active members that > >> can > >>> commit our PRs. > >>> We are ready to contribute but need to know what the interest of > the > >>> community. > >>> > >>> Tom: Tal, Ido? Opinions? > >>> > >>> Ido: Speaking on behalf of Cloudify, currently we do not have any > >>> committers in the Aria project. We are not
Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes
+1 > On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: > > Given that its been over a month since our last meeting about the future of > AriaTosca - and wee have not heard back from Ericsson - I propose that we > start a [DISCUSS] to retire this project. > > Thoughts? > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > >> I actually think my work is not orthogonal... It is a complete TOSCA parser >> that can do a lot of what AriaTosca does, if not more, in that respect. So, >> depending on what folk think about it my project, it might make since to >> move development focus there. (It's also Apache licensed.) >> >> However, it does not exactly include an orchestrator. Instead, it targets >> Kubernetes, which does your orchestration for you. >> >> If folk want an AriaTosca-style orchestrator, I don't think it would be too >> hard to add one. AriaTosca's orchestration is very simple. I have some >> thoughts for how to do so and can assist, though I am not personally >> interested in classical orchestration. A think a better option might be to >> plug it into Cloudify Community Edition, which is a serious orchestrator. >> The Cloudify folk might be interested in assisting on that, since they do >> want TOSCA support in their product. >> >> I am planning on a public release on Monday, assuming I don't have to much >> fun this weekend. :) >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:20 PM Thomas Nadeau >> wrote: >> >>>Tal’s work is orthogonal to the status of the project as we >>> discussed. Sunil’s >>> ‘ask’ hasn’t been addressed, which was your guys’ action from the meeting >>> we had about >>> 2 weeks ago now. >>> >>>—Tom >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:07 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: Hi Tom, There are some internal delays anyway. But I thought we will be having >>> for some info from Tal's work and assess the same, before we can make a >>> final decision. Thanks, /Shen -Original Message- From: Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeaua...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:30 PM To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org Cc: smar...@apache.org Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes Guys, Its been a week (and well past “the end of this week”). Do you have any >>> updates ? —Tom > On May 30, 2018, at 1:01 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < >>> s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Hi Sunil, > > Give us couple of days. We are discussing around this topic. > I would come back by end of this week. > > Thanks, > /Shen > > -Original Message- > From: Suneel Marthi [mailto:smar...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:30 AM > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > Minutes > > @DJ - any updates - we are due to submit the incubator report , let us >>> know by tomorrow as to what Ericsson's decision is. > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Suneel Marthi >>> wrote: > >> Thanks for the call this week. >> >> @DJ, please let us know by next week about Ericsson's decision. >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Nadeau >> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Discussing the Future of AriaTosca >>> >>> Monday, May 21, 2018 10-11AM EST >>> >>> >>> Attendees: Tal, Ido, Shen, DJ, Tom Nadeau, Sunil >>> >>> Tom: Does anyone want to proceed forward with Aria and how? >>> DJ: Ericsson has been looking into this project/area. They started >>> buildign the missing parts of Aria and wish to contirbute them back >>> to the community. Initially we discussed these things with Arthur >>> from Cloudify >>> (with Tal) and to help with our contirbutions. Other than that, we >>> were >>> always under the assumption that the communit was moving forward and >>> we thought we could contribute a few things. >>> >>> Most recently we have built a lot of components around Aria >>> (including Tosca 1.1). Issue is there are no active members that >> can >>> commit our PRs. >>> We are ready to contribute but need to know what the interest of the >>> community. >>> >>> Tom: Tal, Ido? Opinions? >>> >>> Ido: Speaking on behalf of Cloudify, currently we do not have any >>> committers in the Aria project. We are not actively working on Aria >>> at the moment - as a company we have other initiatives to work on, >>> and other engagements such as LF and ONAP community. I don't know >>> if that is going to change. >>> >>> Tal: I'd like to suggest a few options to move forward. Neither >>> Cloudify nor Ericsson can take leadership of the project. You can >>> take Apache incubation projects into
Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes
Given that its been over a month since our last meeting about the future of AriaTosca - and wee have not heard back from Ericsson - I propose that we start a [DISCUSS] to retire this project. Thoughts? On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I actually think my work is not orthogonal... It is a complete TOSCA parser > that can do a lot of what AriaTosca does, if not more, in that respect. So, > depending on what folk think about it my project, it might make since to > move development focus there. (It's also Apache licensed.) > > However, it does not exactly include an orchestrator. Instead, it targets > Kubernetes, which does your orchestration for you. > > If folk want an AriaTosca-style orchestrator, I don't think it would be too > hard to add one. AriaTosca's orchestration is very simple. I have some > thoughts for how to do so and can assist, though I am not personally > interested in classical orchestration. A think a better option might be to > plug it into Cloudify Community Edition, which is a serious orchestrator. > The Cloudify folk might be interested in assisting on that, since they do > want TOSCA support in their product. > > I am planning on a public release on Monday, assuming I don't have to much > fun this weekend. :) > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:20 PM Thomas Nadeau > wrote: > > > Tal’s work is orthogonal to the status of the project as we > > discussed. Sunil’s > > ‘ask’ hasn’t been addressed, which was your guys’ action from the meeting > > we had about > > 2 weeks ago now. > > > > —Tom > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:07 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > > s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > There are some internal delays anyway. But I thought we will be having > > for some info from Tal's work and assess the same, before we can make a > > final decision. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > /Shen > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeaua...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:30 PM > > > To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > > > Cc: smar...@apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting Minutes > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > Its been a week (and well past “the end of this week”). Do you have any > > updates ? > > > > > > —Tom > > > > > > > > >> On May 30, 2018, at 1:01 AM, S Shenbaga Rajan < > > s.shenbaga.ra...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Sunil, > > >> > > >> Give us couple of days. We are discussing around this topic. > > >> I would come back by end of this week. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> /Shen > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: Suneel Marthi [mailto:smar...@apache.org] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:30 AM > > >> To: dev@ariatosca.incubator.apache.org > > >> Subject: Re: Updated: Discuss The Future Of AriaTosca - Meeting > > >> Minutes > > >> > > >> @DJ - any updates - we are due to submit the incubator report , let us > > know by tomorrow as to what Ericsson's decision is. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Suneel Marthi > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thanks for the call this week. > > >>> > > >>> @DJ, please let us know by next week about Ericsson's decision. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Nadeau > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > > Discussing the Future of AriaTosca > > > > Monday, May 21, 2018 10-11AM EST > > > > > > Attendees: Tal, Ido, Shen, DJ, Tom Nadeau, Sunil > > > > Tom: Does anyone want to proceed forward with Aria and how? > > DJ: Ericsson has been looking into this project/area. They started > > buildign the missing parts of Aria and wish to contirbute them back > > to the community. Initially we discussed these things with Arthur > > from Cloudify > > (with Tal) and to help with our contirbutions. Other than that, we > > were > > always under the assumption that the communit was moving forward and > > we thought we could contribute a few things. > > > > Most recently we have built a lot of components around Aria > > (including Tosca 1.1). Issue is there are no active members that > can > > commit our PRs. > > We are ready to contribute but need to know what the interest of the > > community. > > > > Tom: Tal, Ido? Opinions? > > > > Ido: Speaking on behalf of Cloudify, currently we do not have any > > committers in the Aria project. We are not actively working on Aria > > at the moment - as a company we have other initiatives to work on, > > and other engagements such as LF and ONAP community. I don't know > > if that is going to change. > > > > Tal: I'd like to suggest a few options to move forward. Neither > > Cloudify nor Ericsson can take leadership of the project. You can > > take Apache incubation projects into "The Attic". Different status. > > Can be
