Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Jesus Camacho Rodriguez]

Thanks for adding me as co-organizer Denis. I will be happy to work with
you and other members of the community to organize meetups in Bay area.

-Jesús

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Alessandro Solimando <
alessandro.solima...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> despite not being able to contribute actively I keep following the ML and
> the project, I'd love to attend meetups here in Paris if any!
>
> Best regards,
> Alessandro
>
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 05:08, Julian Hyde  wrote:
>
> > Best thing would be for you and Jesus to collaborate. Feel free to do it
> > on this list, or back-channel.
> >
> > I don’t think it matters who is formally the organizer as long as someone
> > is organizing events.
> >
> > > On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> > >
> > > Julian,
> > >
> > > Exactly, any meetup group member can take over a group after
> organizer(s)
> > > step down. I decided to take control after receiving a second
> > notification
> > > threatening to shut the group down in the nearest time. Came across
> this
> > > discussion afterwards.
> > >
> > > As of now, I don’t mind to step down as a co-organizer or can
> collaborate
> > > with Jesus on potential local meetups. Whatever Calcite PMC prefers ;)
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 21, 2019, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you, Denis!
> > >>
> > >> I notice that it is fairly easy for someone to take control over a
> > meetup
> > >> group, so let me say something about governance. To be clear, I have
> no
> > >> indications that anyone has anything but the best intentions for this
> > >> group, so this is just me worrying about a hypothetical worst case.
> The
> > >> group’s name and description includes the trademark “Apache Calcite”
> and
> > >> therefore we, the PMC, have the right of veto over what the meetup
> group
> > >> does. Or request that it changes its name.
> > >>
> > >> That would give us some control over this group, if it should ever
> come
> > to
> > >> that. To repeat, I have no doubt that everyone is acting in good
> faith.
> > >>
> > >> Julian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Jesús,
> > >>>
> > >>> I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's
> work
> > >>> together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.
> > >>>
> > >>> -
> > >>> Denis
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" <
> > >> jcama...@apache.org
> > > :
> > 
> >    It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
> > 
> >    -Jesús
> > 
> >    On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > > 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > >>
> > >> Jesús
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > -
> > > Denis
> >
> >
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Alessandro Solimando]

Hello,
despite not being able to contribute actively I keep following the ML and
the project, I'd love to attend meetups here in Paris if any!

Best regards,
Alessandro

On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 05:08, Julian Hyde  wrote:

> Best thing would be for you and Jesus to collaborate. Feel free to do it
> on this list, or back-channel.
>
> I don’t think it matters who is formally the organizer as long as someone
> is organizing events.
>
> > On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> >
> > Julian,
> >
> > Exactly, any meetup group member can take over a group after organizer(s)
> > step down. I decided to take control after receiving a second
> notification
> > threatening to shut the group down in the nearest time. Came across this
> > discussion afterwards.
> >
> > As of now, I don’t mind to step down as a co-organizer or can collaborate
> > with Jesus on potential local meetups. Whatever Calcite PMC prefers ;)
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Monday, October 21, 2019, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you, Denis!
> >>
> >> I notice that it is fairly easy for someone to take control over a
> meetup
> >> group, so let me say something about governance. To be clear, I have no
> >> indications that anyone has anything but the best intentions for this
> >> group, so this is just me worrying about a hypothetical worst case. The
> >> group’s name and description includes the trademark “Apache Calcite” and
> >> therefore we, the PMC, have the right of veto over what the meetup group
> >> does. Or request that it changes its name.
> >>
> >> That would give us some control over this group, if it should ever come
> to
> >> that. To repeat, I have no doubt that everyone is acting in good faith.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jesús,
> >>>
> >>> I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's work
> >>> together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Denis
> >>>
> >>>
> 
>  Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" <
> >> jcama...@apache.org
> > :
> 
>    It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
> 
>    -Jesús
> 
>    On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> >>
> >> Jesús
> >
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > -
> > Denis
>
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Julian Hyde]

Best thing would be for you and Jesus to collaborate. Feel free to do it on 
this list, or back-channel.

I don’t think it matters who is formally the organizer as long as someone is 
organizing events.

> On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> 
> Julian,
> 
> Exactly, any meetup group member can take over a group after organizer(s)
> step down. I decided to take control after receiving a second notification
> threatening to shut the group down in the nearest time. Came across this
> discussion afterwards.
> 
> As of now, I don’t mind to step down as a co-organizer or can collaborate
> with Jesus on potential local meetups. Whatever Calcite PMC prefers ;)
> 
> Denis
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 21, 2019, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Denis!
>> 
>> I notice that it is fairly easy for someone to take control over a meetup
>> group, so let me say something about governance. To be clear, I have no
>> indications that anyone has anything but the best intentions for this
>> group, so this is just me worrying about a hypothetical worst case. The
>> group’s name and description includes the trademark “Apache Calcite” and
>> therefore we, the PMC, have the right of veto over what the meetup group
>> does. Or request that it changes its name.
>> 
>> That would give us some control over this group, if it should ever come to
>> that. To repeat, I have no doubt that everyone is acting in good faith.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jesús,
>>> 
>>> I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's work
>>> together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Denis
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" <
>> jcama...@apache.org
> :
 
   It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
 
   -Jesús
 
   On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
 wrote:
 
> Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> 
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>> 
>> Jesús
> 
 
 
 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> -
> Denis

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Denis Magda]

Julian,

Exactly, any meetup group member can take over a group after organizer(s)
step down. I decided to take control after receiving a second notification
threatening to shut the group down in the nearest time. Came across this
discussion afterwards.

As of now, I don’t mind to step down as a co-organizer or can collaborate
with Jesus on potential local meetups. Whatever Calcite PMC prefers ;)

Denis


On Monday, October 21, 2019, Julian Hyde  wrote:

> Thank you, Denis!
>
> I notice that it is fairly easy for someone to take control over a meetup
> group, so let me say something about governance. To be clear, I have no
> indications that anyone has anything but the best intentions for this
> group, so this is just me worrying about a hypothetical worst case. The
> group’s name and description includes the trademark “Apache Calcite” and
> therefore we, the PMC, have the right of veto over what the meetup group
> does. Or request that it changes its name.
>
> That would give us some control over this group, if it should ever come to
> that. To repeat, I have no doubt that everyone is acting in good faith.
>
> Julian
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jesús,
> >
> > I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's work
> > together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" <
> jcama...@apache.org
> >>> :
> >>
> >>It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
> >>
> >>-Jesús
> >>
> >>On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Danny Chan
> >>> 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> 
>  Jesús
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

-- 
-
Denis

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Julian Hyde]

Thank you, Denis!

I notice that it is fairly easy for someone to take control over a meetup 
group, so let me say something about governance. To be clear, I have no 
indications that anyone has anything but the best intentions for this group, so 
this is just me worrying about a hypothetical worst case. The group’s name and 
description includes the trademark “Apache Calcite” and therefore we, the PMC, 
have the right of veto over what the meetup group does. Or request that it 
changes its name.

That would give us some control over this group, if it should ever come to 
that. To repeat, I have no doubt that everyone is acting in good faith.

Julian


> On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Denis Magda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jesús,
> 
> I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's work
> together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.
> 
> -
> Denis
> 
> 
>> 
>> Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" >> :
>> 
>>It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
>> 
>>-Jesús
>> 
>>On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Danny Chan
>>> 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
 
 Jesús
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Denis Magda]

Hi Jesús,

I've paid for the next 6 months and made you a co-organizer. Let's work
together and arrange a local meetup in the Bay Area.

-
Denis


>
> Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez"  >:
>
> It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
>
> -Jesús
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > >
> > > Jesús
> >
>
>
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Stamatis Zampetakis]

Hi,

A meetup at Stuttgart (or nearby) sounds like a good idea, potentially I
would be able to attend.

I am taking advantage of this thread to ask if there are also people
interested for a meetup in Paris, France.
If yes, please do say so to see if it is worth organising something there
or in the near area.

Best,
Stamatis

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:26 PM Julian Feinauer <
j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would love to attend a Caclite meetup but as we are from Germany I'm
> unsure about the community here.
> But what about a "virtual meetup" via Hangout or something as "addition".
> But of course, if people from Germany are interested we would be honored
> to host a Meetup near Stuttgart.
>
> JulianF
>
> Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez"  >:
>
> It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.
>
> -Jesús
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > >
> > > Jesús
> >
>
>
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Julian Feinauer]

Hi,

I would love to attend a Caclite meetup but as we are from Germany I'm unsure 
about the community here.
But what about a "virtual meetup" via Hangout or something as "addition".
But of course, if people from Germany are interested we would be honored to 
host a Meetup near Stuttgart.

JulianF

Am 18.10.19, 19:53 schrieb "Jesus Camacho Rodriguez" :

It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.

-Jesús

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan  wrote:

> Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> >
> > Jesús
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Jesus Camacho Rodriguez]

It seems someone else (Denis Magda) paid the fees in the meantime.

-Jesús

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:32 AM Danny Chan  wrote:

> Thanks Jesús for taking over this !
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> >
> > Jesús
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Danny Chan]

Thanks Jesús for taking over this !

Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月18日 +0800 PM2:00，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> Jesús

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Jesus Camacho Rodriguez]

Absolutely!

Thanks,
Jesús

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 3:46 PM Julian Hyde  wrote:

> I would be delighted if you would do that - thank you!
>
> If you are organizing a meet up, please consult with this list. There may
> be people who would be willing to speak and have something interesting to
> say.
>
> Julian
>
> > On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <
> jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > I have just seen your message. Although we have other ways to
> communicate,
> > I believe it may be valuable to keep the group even if a meetup has not
> > happened for a while (we may organize some meetups in the future, those
> > interested in Calcite may be subscribed to group to attend talks around
> the
> > project even if they do not follow the project closely through mailing
> > list, etc.). I would be happy to pay the fees to keep it. I have just
> > checked and I think I could simply go ahead and pay, but let me know if I
> > need to do anything else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jesús
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:21 AM Julian Hyde  wrote:
> >
> >> If you’re a member of the Apache Calcite meetup group[1], you probably
> >> just received an email saying that the group is shutting down. I set it
> up
> >> a few years ago, but I never find time to organize meetups, so I
> decided to
> >> stop paying the annual fee to meetup.com .
> >>
> >> I’m not particularly sad that it’s closing down, given that it has been
> >> inactive, and we as a community seem to find other ways to talk to each
> >> other. But if someone in the community would like to organize some
> meetups
> >> and is prepared to pay the fees, I’m happy to hand over the reins.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.meetup.com/Apache-Calcite/ <
> >> https://www.meetup.com/Apache-Calcite/>
>
>

Re: Apache Calcite meetup group

[Julian Hyde]

I would be delighted if you would do that - thank you!

If you are organizing a meet up, please consult with this list. There may be 
people who would be willing to speak and have something interesting to say.

Julian

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Julian,
> 
> I have just seen your message. Although we have other ways to communicate,
> I believe it may be valuable to keep the group even if a meetup has not
> happened for a while (we may organize some meetups in the future, those
> interested in Calcite may be subscribed to group to attend talks around the
> project even if they do not follow the project closely through mailing
> list, etc.). I would be happy to pay the fees to keep it. I have just
> checked and I think I could simply go ahead and pay, but let me know if I
> need to do anything else.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jesús
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:21 AM Julian Hyde  wrote:
> 
>> If you’re a member of the Apache Calcite meetup group[1], you probably
>> just received an email saying that the group is shutting down. I set it up
>> a few years ago, but I never find time to organize meetups, so I decided to
>> stop paying the annual fee to meetup.com .
>> 
>> I’m not particularly sad that it’s closing down, given that it has been
>> inactive, and we as a community seem to find other ways to talk to each
>> other. But if someone in the community would like to organize some meetups
>> and is prepared to pay the fees, I’m happy to hand over the reins.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> [1] https://www.meetup.com/Apache-Calcite/ <
>> https://www.meetup.com/Apache-Calcite/>