Re: Inter-node messaging latency
Are you sure you’re blocked on internode and not commitlog? Batch is typically not what people expect (group commitlog in 4.0 is probably closer to what you think batch does). -- Jeff Jirsa > On Nov 27, 2018, at 10:55 PM, Yuji Ito wrote: > > Hi, > > Thank you for the reply. > I've measured LWT throughput in 4.0. > > I used the cassandra-stress tool to insert rows with LWT for 3 minutes on > i3.xlarge and i3.4xlarge > For 3.11, I modified the tool to support LWT. > Before each measurement, I cleaned up all Cassandra data. > > The throughput in 4.0 is 5 % faster than 3.11. > The CPU load of i3.4xlarge (16 vCPUs) is only up to 75% in both versions. > And, the throughput was slower than 4 times that of i3.xlarge. > I think the throughput wasn't bounded by CPU also in 4.0. > > The CPU load of i3.4xlarge is up to 80 % with non-LWT write. > > I wonder what is the bottleneck for writes on a many-core machine if the > issue about messaging has been resolved in 4.0. > Can I use up CPU to insert rows by changing any parameter? > > # LWT insert > * Cassandra 3.11.3 > | instance type | # of threads | concurrent_writes | Throughput [op/s] | > | i3.xlarge | 64 |32 | 2815 | > |i3.4xlarge | 256 | 128 | 9506 | > |i3.4xlarge | 512 | 256 | 10540 | > > * Cassandra 4.0 (trunk) > | instance type | # of threads | concurrent_writes | Throughput [op/s] | > | i3.xlarge | 64 |32 | 2951 | > |i3.4xlarge | 256 | 128 | 9816 | > |i3.4xlarge | 512 | 256 | 11055 | > > * Environment > - 3 node cluster > - Replication factor: 3 > - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge / i3.4xlarge > > * C* configuration > - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 / 4.0 (trunk) > - commitlog_sync: batch > - concurrent_writes: 32, 256 > - native_transport_max_threads: 128(default), 256 (when concurrent_writes is > 256) > > Thanks, > Yuji > > > 2018年11月26日(月) 17:27 sankalp kohli : >> Inter-node messaging is rewritten using Netty in 4.0. It will be better to >> test it using that as potential changes will mostly land on top of that. >> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:39 AM Yuji Ito wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm investigating LWT performance with C* 3.11.3. >>> It looks that the performance is bounded by messaging latency when many >>> requests are issued concurrently. >>> >>> According to the source code, the number of messaging threads per node is >>> only 1 thread for incoming and 1 thread for outbound "small" message to >>> another node. >>> >>> I guess these threads are frequently interrupted because many threads are >>> executed when many requests are issued. >>> Especially, I think it affects the LWT performance when many LWT requests >>> which need lots of inter-node messaging are issued. >>> >>> I measured that latency. It took 2.5 ms in average to enqueue a message at >>> a node and to receive the message at the **same** node with 96 concurrent >>> LWT writes. >>> Is it normal? I think it is too big latency, though a message was sent to >>> the same node. >>> >>> Decreasing numbers of other threads like `concurrent_counter_writes`, >>> `concurrent_materialized_view_writes` reduced a bit the latency. >>> Can I change any other parameter to reduce the latency? >>> I've tried using message coalescing, but they didn't reduce that. >>> >>> * Environment >>> - 3 node cluster >>> - Replication factor: 3 >>> - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge >>> >>> * C* configuration >>> - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 >>> - commitlog_sync: batch >>> - concurrent_reads: 32 (default) >>> - concurrent_writes: 32 (default) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Yuji >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: Inter-node messaging latency
Hi, Thank you for the reply. I've measured LWT throughput in 4.0. I used the cassandra-stress tool to insert rows with LWT for 3 minutes on i3.xlarge and i3.4xlarge For 3.11, I modified the tool to support LWT. Before each measurement, I cleaned up all Cassandra data. The throughput in 4.0 is 5 % faster than 3.11. The CPU load of i3.4xlarge (16 vCPUs) is only up to 75% in both versions. And, the throughput was slower than 4 times that of i3.xlarge. I think the throughput wasn't bounded by CPU also in 4.0. The CPU load of i3.4xlarge is up to 80 % with non-LWT write. I wonder what is the bottleneck for writes on a many-core machine if the issue about messaging has been resolved in 4.0. Can I use up CPU to insert rows by changing any parameter? # LWT insert * Cassandra 3.11.3 | instance type | # of threads | concurrent_writes | Throughput [op/s] | | i3.xlarge | 64 |32 | 2815 | |i3.4xlarge | 256 | 128 | 9506 | |i3.4xlarge | 512 | 256 | 10540 | * Cassandra 4.0 (trunk) | instance type | # of threads | concurrent_writes | Throughput [op/s] | | i3.xlarge | 64 |32 | 2951 | |i3.4xlarge | 256 | 128 | 9816 | |i3.4xlarge | 512 | 256 | 11055 | * Environment - 3 node cluster - Replication factor: 3 - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge / i3.4xlarge * C* configuration - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 / 4.0 (trunk) - commitlog_sync: batch - concurrent_writes: 32, 256 - native_transport_max_threads: 128(default), 256 (when concurrent_writes is 256) Thanks, Yuji 2018年11月26日(月) 17:27 sankalp kohli : > Inter-node messaging is rewritten using Netty in 4.0. It will be better to > test it using that as potential changes will mostly land on top of that. > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:39 AM Yuji Ito wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm investigating LWT performance with C* 3.11.3. >> It looks that the performance is bounded by messaging latency when many >> requests are issued concurrently. >> >> According to the source code, the number of messaging threads per node is >> only 1 thread for incoming and 1 thread for outbound "small" message to >> another node. >> >> I guess these threads are frequently interrupted because many threads are >> executed when many requests are issued. >> Especially, I think it affects the LWT performance when many LWT requests >> which need lots of inter-node messaging are issued. >> >> I measured that latency. It took 2.5 ms in average to enqueue a message >> at a node and to receive the message at the **same** node with 96 >> concurrent LWT writes. >> Is it normal? I think it is too big latency, though a message was sent to >> the same node. >> >> Decreasing numbers of other threads like `concurrent_counter_writes`, >> `concurrent_materialized_view_writes` reduced a bit the latency. >> Can I change any other parameter to reduce the latency? >> I've tried using message coalescing, but they didn't reduce that. >> >> * Environment >> - 3 node cluster >> - Replication factor: 3 >> - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge >> >> * C* configuration >> - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 >> - commitlog_sync: batch >> - concurrent_reads: 32 (default) >> - concurrent_writes: 32 (default) >> >> Thanks, >> Yuji >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
Re: Inter-node messaging latency
Inter-node messaging is rewritten using Netty in 4.0. It will be better to test it using that as potential changes will mostly land on top of that. On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:39 AM Yuji Ito wrote: > Hi, > > I'm investigating LWT performance with C* 3.11.3. > It looks that the performance is bounded by messaging latency when many > requests are issued concurrently. > > According to the source code, the number of messaging threads per node is > only 1 thread for incoming and 1 thread for outbound "small" message to > another node. > > I guess these threads are frequently interrupted because many threads are > executed when many requests are issued. > Especially, I think it affects the LWT performance when many LWT requests > which need lots of inter-node messaging are issued. > > I measured that latency. It took 2.5 ms in average to enqueue a message at > a node and to receive the message at the **same** node with 96 concurrent > LWT writes. > Is it normal? I think it is too big latency, though a message was sent to > the same node. > > Decreasing numbers of other threads like `concurrent_counter_writes`, > `concurrent_materialized_view_writes` reduced a bit the latency. > Can I change any other parameter to reduce the latency? > I've tried using message coalescing, but they didn't reduce that. > > * Environment > - 3 node cluster > - Replication factor: 3 > - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge > > * C* configuration > - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 > - commitlog_sync: batch > - concurrent_reads: 32 (default) > - concurrent_writes: 32 (default) > > Thanks, > Yuji > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Inter-node messaging latency
Hi, I'm investigating LWT performance with C* 3.11.3. It looks that the performance is bounded by messaging latency when many requests are issued concurrently. According to the source code, the number of messaging threads per node is only 1 thread for incoming and 1 thread for outbound "small" message to another node. I guess these threads are frequently interrupted because many threads are executed when many requests are issued. Especially, I think it affects the LWT performance when many LWT requests which need lots of inter-node messaging are issued. I measured that latency. It took 2.5 ms in average to enqueue a message at a node and to receive the message at the **same** node with 96 concurrent LWT writes. Is it normal? I think it is too big latency, though a message was sent to the same node. Decreasing numbers of other threads like `concurrent_counter_writes`, `concurrent_materialized_view_writes` reduced a bit the latency. Can I change any other parameter to reduce the latency? I've tried using message coalescing, but they didn't reduce that. * Environment - 3 node cluster - Replication factor: 3 - Node instance: AWS EC2 i3.xlarge * C* configuration - Apache Cassandra 3.11.3 - commitlog_sync: batch - concurrent_reads: 32 (default) - concurrent_writes: 32 (default) Thanks, Yuji - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
