[PR] NSX: (temp fix) Skip adding firewall rules for CKS Clusters on VPC tiers [cloudstack-kubernetes-provider]

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Pearl1594 opened a new pull request, #56:
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   Currently CKP does not setup NetworkACLs for CKS clusters on VPC tiers, and 
fails to add Firewall rules - as Firewall isn't supported on VPCs. This is a 
partial fix, to skip setting up Firewall rules if the network doesn't support 
the service.


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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] Document advance DRS settings [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] Fix RTD builds: Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] Fix spelling [cloudstack-documentation]

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DaanHoogland commented on code in PR #373:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/373#discussion_r1457419427


##
source/conceptsandterminology/locale/pot/developer_guide.pot:
##
@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@ msgstr ""
 
 #: ../../developer_guide.rst:460
 # 7c104d4cd0fe475e863b91f53449a5c5
-msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `github 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."
+msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `GitHub 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."

Review Comment:
   and by autospelolcorrectors



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Re: [PR] Fix RTD builds: Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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   QA-Doc build preview: https://qa.cloudstack.cloud/builds/docs-build/pr/375. 
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Re: [PR] Fix spelling [cloudstack-documentation]

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DaanHoogland commented on code in PR #373:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/373#discussion_r1457418476


##
source/conceptsandterminology/locale/pot/developer_guide.pot:
##
@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@ msgstr ""
 
 #: ../../developer_guide.rst:460
 # 7c104d4cd0fe475e863b91f53449a5c5
-msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `github 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."
+msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `GitHub 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."

Review Comment:
   ok, so spoiled by the highlighting on githup i am



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Re: [PR] Fix RTD builds: Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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   @vishesh92 a Jenkins job has been kicked to build the document. I'll keep 
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Re: [PR] Fix RTD builds: Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] Fix spelling [cloudstack-documentation]

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jbampton commented on code in PR #373:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/373#discussion_r1457416723


##
source/conceptsandterminology/locale/pot/developer_guide.pot:
##
@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@ msgstr ""
 
 #: ../../developer_guide.rst:460
 # 7c104d4cd0fe475e863b91f53449a5c5
-msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `github 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."
+msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `GitHub 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."

Review Comment:
   The sentence that starts with:
   
   Multiple clients exist on `github
   
   changed to:
   
   Multiple clients exist on `GitHub



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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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   QA-Doc build preview: https://qa.cloudstack.cloud/builds/docs-build/pr/357. 
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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [PR] Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.19.0.0 RC2

[Daan Hoogland]

agreed, thanks Abhi

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 1:07 PM Abhishek Kumar  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks you for your vote Nicolas and Daan.
> Thank you Wei for the tests. The reported issue will be a blocker for people 
> installing and upgrading on Ubuntu hosts.
> We already have a fix and test results on the PR 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524 look good.
>
> I'll work with contributors and cut a new RC with this fix.
>
> Regards,
> Abhishek
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 20:59, Wei ZHOU  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daan,
>>
>> multipath is not used in our environments at all.
>> The tests for PR https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524 look ok
>> until now. Let's wait for the test results.
>>
>> -Wei
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:16, Daan Hoogland  wrote:
>>
>> > Wei, is this with a VM/Volume not using multipath itself? If it is it
>> > is definitely a reason to create a new RC, if it isn't I think we can
>> > manage a known issue for a new feature.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:50 PM Wei ZHOU  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Ahbishek, and everyone tested or is testing RC2.
>> > >
>> > > I ran some tests on a ubuntu22 environment , and got the following
>> > > exception when stopping VMs.
>> > >
>> > > 2024-01-17 12:56:26,053 DEBUG [c.c.a.t.Request]
>> > > (AgentManager-Handler-17:null) (logid:) Seq 2-8295911988593164342:
>> > > Processing:  { Ans: , MgmtId: 32989056598488, via: 2, Ver: v1, Flags: 10,
>> > >
>> > [{"com.cloud.agent.api.Answer":{"result":"false","details":"java.lang.NullPointerException
>> > > at com.cloud.utils.script.Script.getExitValue(Script.java:74)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.runScript(MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.java:476)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.disconnectPhysicalDiskByPath(MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.java:226)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.KVMStoragePoolManager.disconnectPhysicalDiskByPath(KVMStoragePoolManager.java:205)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource.cleanupDisk(LibvirtComputingResource.java:3335)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.execute(LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.java:101)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.execute(LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.java:49)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtRequestWrapper.execute(LibvirtRequestWrapper.java:78)
>> > > at
>> > >
>> > com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource.executeRequest(LibvirtComputingResource.java:1903)
>> > >
>> > > The workaround is
>> > > chmod +x /usr/share/cloudstack-common/scripts/storage/multipath/*.sh
>> > > The PR to fix it : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please note, this is not a -1 on the RC2. If we think this is not a
>> > > critical issue, we need to update the upgrade instruction for it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -Wei
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 13:04, Abhishek Kumar 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > I've created a 4.19.0.0 release (RC2), with the following artifacts up
>> > for
>> > > > a vote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Git Branch and Commit SH:
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.19.0.0-RC20240115T1418
>> > > > Commit: 38bd4fd72bdae354c4b0f615a4861fc84d67b29a
>> > > >
>> > > > Source release (checksums and signatures are available at the same
>> > > > location):
>> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cloudstack/4.19.0.0/
>> > > >
>> > > > PGP release keys (signed using
>> > 65518106473A09D7AF26B384A70BD2EAA74E2866):
>> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cloudstack/KEYS
>> > > >
>> > > > For testing purposes, I have uploaded the different distro packages to:
>> > > > http://download.cloudstack.org/testing/4.19.0.0-RC2/
>> > > >
>> > > > Since 4.16 the system VM template registration is no longer mandatory
>> > > > before upgrading, however, it can be downloaded from here if needed:
>> > > > https://download.cloudstack.org/systemvm/4.19/
>> > > >
>> > > > The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>> > > >
>> > > > For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to
>> > indicate
>> > > > "(binding)" with their vote?
>> > > >
>> > > > [ ] +1  approve
>> > > > [ ] +0  no opinion
>> > > > [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Abhishek
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daan
>> >



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[PR] Update requirements.txt with the latest versions [cloudstack-documentation]

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URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/375

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Re: [PR] Fix spelling [cloudstack-documentation]

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DaanHoogland commented on code in PR #373:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/373#discussion_r1457404543


##
source/conceptsandterminology/locale/pot/developer_guide.pot:
##
@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@ msgstr ""
 
 #: ../../developer_guide.rst:460
 # 7c104d4cd0fe475e863b91f53449a5c5
-msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `github 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."
+msgid "The CloudStack API is a query based API using http that return results 
in XML or JSON. It is used to implement the default web UI. This API is not a 
standard like `OGF OCCI 
`__ or `DMTF CIMI 
`__ but is easy to learn. Mapping exists 
between the AWS API and the CloudStack API as will be seen in the next section. 
Recently a Google Compute Engine interface was also developed that maps the GCE 
REST API to the CloudStack API described here. The API `docs 
`__ are a good start to learn the 
extent of the API. Multiple clients exist on `GitHub 
`__ to use this API, 
you should be able to find one in your favorite language. The reference 
documentation for the API and changes that might occur from version to version 
is availble `on-line 
`__. This short section is aimed at providing a 
quick summary to give you a base understanding of how to use this API. As a 
quick start, a good way to explore the API is to navigate the dashboard with a 
firebug console (or similar developer console) to study the queries."

Review Comment:
   what has changed here?



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Re: [PR] veeam: update API commands and versions in doc [cloudstack-documentation]

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Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.19.0.0 RC2

[Abhishek Kumar]

Hi all,

Thanks you for your vote Nicolas and Daan.
Thank you Wei for the tests. The reported issue will be a blocker for
people installing and upgrading on Ubuntu hosts.
We already have a fix and test results on the PR
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524 look good.

I'll work with contributors and cut a new RC with this fix.

Regards,
Abhishek

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 20:59, Wei ZHOU  wrote:

> Hi Daan,
>
> multipath is not used in our environments at all.
> The tests for PR https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524 look ok
> until now. Let's wait for the test results.
>
> -Wei
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:16, Daan Hoogland 
> wrote:
>
> > Wei, is this with a VM/Volume not using multipath itself? If it is it
> > is definitely a reason to create a new RC, if it isn't I think we can
> > manage a known issue for a new feature.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:50 PM Wei ZHOU  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Ahbishek, and everyone tested or is testing RC2.
> > >
> > > I ran some tests on a ubuntu22 environment , and got the following
> > > exception when stopping VMs.
> > >
> > > 2024-01-17 12:56:26,053 DEBUG [c.c.a.t.Request]
> > > (AgentManager-Handler-17:null) (logid:) Seq 2-8295911988593164342:
> > > Processing:  { Ans: , MgmtId: 32989056598488, via: 2, Ver: v1, Flags:
> 10,
> > >
> >
> [{"com.cloud.agent.api.Answer":{"result":"false","details":"java.lang.NullPointerException
> > > at com.cloud.utils.script.Script.getExitValue(Script.java:74)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.runScript(MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.java:476)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.disconnectPhysicalDiskByPath(MultipathSCSIAdapterBase.java:226)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.storage.KVMStoragePoolManager.disconnectPhysicalDiskByPath(KVMStoragePoolManager.java:205)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource.cleanupDisk(LibvirtComputingResource.java:3335)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.execute(LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.java:101)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.execute(LibvirtStopCommandWrapper.java:49)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.wrapper.LibvirtRequestWrapper.execute(LibvirtRequestWrapper.java:78)
> > > at
> > >
> >
> com.cloud.hypervisor.kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource.executeRequest(LibvirtComputingResource.java:1903)
> > >
> > > The workaround is
> > > chmod +x /usr/share/cloudstack-common/scripts/storage/multipath/*.sh
> > > The PR to fix it : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8524
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note, this is not a -1 on the RC2. If we think this is not a
> > > critical issue, we need to update the upgrade instruction for it.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Wei
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 13:04, Abhishek Kumar 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I've created a 4.19.0.0 release (RC2), with the following artifacts
> up
> > for
> > > > a vote:
> > > >
> > > > Git Branch and Commit SH:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.19.0.0-RC20240115T1418
> > > > Commit: 38bd4fd72bdae354c4b0f615a4861fc84d67b29a
> > > >
> > > > Source release (checksums and signatures are available at the same
> > > > location):
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cloudstack/4.19.0.0/
> > > >
> > > > PGP release keys (signed using
> > 65518106473A09D7AF26B384A70BD2EAA74E2866):
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cloudstack/KEYS
> > > >
> > > > For testing purposes, I have uploaded the different distro packages
> to:
> > > > http://download.cloudstack.org/testing/4.19.0.0-RC2/
> > > >
> > > > Since 4.16 the system VM template registration is no longer mandatory
> > > > before upgrading, however, it can be downloaded from here if needed:
> > > > https://download.cloudstack.org/systemvm/4.19/
> > > >
> > > > The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> > > >
> > > > For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to
> > indicate
> > > > "(binding)" with their vote?
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1  approve
> > > > [ ] +0  no opinion
> > > > [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Abhishek
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daan
> >
>

Re: new website design

[Ivet Petrova]

 Hello all,

As Daan mentioned, a group of people put great efforts in doing this. IMO the 
website looks much cleaner and presents in a better way the project. This will 
give us more opportunities to attract new users and present all ACS 
capabilities and strengths.
I strongly support launching it as soon as possible.

Best regards,


 

On 17 Jan 2024, at 21:31, Daan Hoogland  wrote:

devs and users,

back in august we had a small discussion about a new website design,
led by Ivet [1]. In the meanwhile Rohit had investigated using
docusaurus as a publishing mechanism for the site. After the last few
weeks I have been working on integrating the two. The result so far
can be viewed on the staging site [2]

Please all have a look and give me any feedback you may have, so we
can move this forward.

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/fopjc3r4hjkp9nbkj9xzoxv406rowkso
[2] https://cloudstack.staged.apache.org/

--
Daan