Re: FW: Win7 License key?
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 08:16:45PM +, Donal Lafferty wrote: > IIRC, most of the items below *were* brought up with the community first. > E.g. a summary of licenses was published for feed back at the end of May, > and I've been asking for development materials both on IRC and on the mailing > list such as logs that provide examples of commands serialised to JSON. > Yup - just looked like good input for the list. > That said, the email below serves as a good community update, explains we're > ramping up to get Hyper-V work, and that the ultimate target is Apache > CloudStack (and not merely the CloudPlatform distro). It did! > > Finally, since it was sent by accident, you know you're getting the inside > info ;) > Yup, and no worries. > See you at Sungard in London at tomorrow's European CloudStack User's Group? Nope, I'm in the US. But say hi to folks there! -chip
RE: FW: Win7 License key?
IIRC, most of the items below *were* brought up with the community first. E.g. a summary of licenses was published for feed back at the end of May, and I've been asking for development materials both on IRC and on the mailing list such as logs that provide examples of commands serialised to JSON. That said, the email below serves as a good community update, explains we're ramping up to get Hyper-V work, and that the ultimate target is Apache CloudStack (and not merely the CloudPlatform distro). Finally, since it was sent by accident, you know you're getting the inside info ;) See you at Sungard in London at tomorrow's European CloudStack User's Group? DL > -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] > Sent: 03 July 2013 8:18 PM > To: Donal Lafferty > Cc: Ram Chinta; Manan Shah; Kevin Kluge; dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: FW: Win7 License key? > > I assume that this was sent to the wrong "dev" list, given the $dayjob > specific > bits. > > However, perhaps these items should actually be discussed within the > project itself? > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:32:06PM +, Donal Lafferty wrote: > > Hi Ram / Manan, > > > > Devdeep added you to a meeting to discuss Hyper-V development on > Tuesday. > > > > If you've not already received it, the agenda is outlined below. > > > > DL > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Donal Lafferty > > > Sent: 28 June 2013 10:17 AM > > > To: Devdeep Singh > > > Cc: Will Chan; Kevin Kluge > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > > > Hi Devdeep, > > > > > > Can we meet today? Will is out of the office, but Kevin should be around. > > > > > > During the meeting I would like to go over the following topics: > > > > > > First up is development strategy, namely division of labour. From > > > your Linkedin profile, it looks like you're strongest with Windows. > > > However, access to people familiar with CloudStack has been the > > > blocker. For instance, your answer below is from a question asked > > > ten days ago :( If you work on items that require collaboration > > > from the India team, it will greatly speed development. > > > > > > Second is a series of tactical concerns that I'd like some input on. > > > > > > 1. The Hyper-V API used by CloudStack and OpenStack has been > > > removed as of Hyper-V 2012 R2. If we update it, OpenStack might > > > copy us. Should we hold off on publishing any updates until the plugin is > good to go? > > > Alternatively, should we contract the open stack developer to update > > > our API calls? > > > > > > 2. Hyper-V Server 2012 does not have an NFS client, which prevents > > > it from using the existing staging strategy. With other > > > Hypervisors, images can be downloaded from an object store to a NFS > > > cache where they are uncompressed and made ready for distribution to > > > hypervisors. Hyper-V needs either a CIFS-based cache system, or it > > > should pull directly from the object store. In the later case, > > > you'd have to prevent users from creating templates from compressed > > > images. What strategy should we pursue? (this needs deciding > > > today) > > > > > > 3. The RDP console proxy code needs to be updated and deployed to a > > > system VM. A contractor has produced an RDP proxy, but it does not > > > provide the correct handshaking required to select the virtual frame > > > buffer for a Hyper-V VM. Also, the proxy has to be added to our > > > system VM infrastructure, which work that Rohit used to do. Do we > > > have any expertise with RDP?Also, who is the System VM guru these > days? > > > > > > 4. Instructions for the Hyper-V agent have been developed by > > > replaying JSON encoded kernel commands. However, it has been > > > extremely difficult to get samples of the relevant commands. What > > > is a good strategy for obtaining them? The current one involves > > > begging CloudStack developers to provide debug logs, as testing > > > don't appear to log the actual kernel commands. > > > > > > 5. There's no DevCloud for Hyper-V. To work on the plugin, I have > > > deployed a full CloudStack with Hyper-V servers as the hosts. Is > > > this something that is reasonable to duplicate India? > > > > > > 6. Integrating with the Apache Cloud
Re: FW: Win7 License key?
I assume that this was sent to the wrong "dev" list, given the $dayjob specific bits. However, perhaps these items should actually be discussed within the project itself? On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:32:06PM +, Donal Lafferty wrote: > Hi Ram / Manan, > > Devdeep added you to a meeting to discuss Hyper-V development on Tuesday. > > If you've not already received it, the agenda is outlined below. > > DL > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Donal Lafferty > > Sent: 28 June 2013 10:17 AM > > To: Devdeep Singh > > Cc: Will Chan; Kevin Kluge > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > Hi Devdeep, > > > > Can we meet today? Will is out of the office, but Kevin should be around. > > > > During the meeting I would like to go over the following topics: > > > > First up is development strategy, namely division of labour. From your > > Linkedin profile, it looks like you're strongest with Windows. However, > > access to people familiar with CloudStack has been the blocker. For > > instance, > > your answer below is from a question asked ten days ago :( If you work on > > items that require collaboration from the India team, it will greatly speed > > development. > > > > Second is a series of tactical concerns that I'd like some input on. > > > > 1. The Hyper-V API used by CloudStack and OpenStack has been removed as > > of Hyper-V 2012 R2. If we update it, OpenStack might copy us. Should we > > hold off on publishing any updates until the plugin is good to go? > > Alternatively, should we contract the open stack developer to update our > > API calls? > > > > 2. Hyper-V Server 2012 does not have an NFS client, which prevents it from > > using the existing staging strategy. With other Hypervisors, images can be > > downloaded from an object store to a NFS cache where they are > > uncompressed and made ready for distribution to hypervisors. Hyper-V > > needs either a CIFS-based cache system, or it should pull directly from the > > object store. In the later case, you'd have to prevent users from creating > > templates from compressed images. What strategy should we pursue? (this > > needs deciding today) > > > > 3. The RDP console proxy code needs to be updated and deployed to a > > system VM. A contractor has produced an RDP proxy, but it does not provide > > the correct handshaking required to select the virtual frame buffer for a > > Hyper-V VM. Also, the proxy has to be added to our system VM > > infrastructure, which work that Rohit used to do. Do we have any expertise > > with RDP?Also, who is the System VM guru these days? > > > > 4. Instructions for the Hyper-V agent have been developed by replaying > > JSON encoded kernel commands. However, it has been extremely difficult > > to get samples of the relevant commands. What is a good strategy for > > obtaining them? The current one involves begging CloudStack developers to > > provide debug logs, as testing don't appear to log the actual kernel > > commands. > > > > 5. There's no DevCloud for Hyper-V. To work on the plugin, I have deployed > > a full CloudStack with Hyper-V servers as the hosts. Is this something > > that is > > reasonable to duplicate India? > > > > 6. Integrating with the Apache CloudStack build faces an IP hurdle and a > > testing hurdle. The IP issue concerns compiling the Hyper-V agent. I use > > VS2012SP1, which is a problem with for ASF. Either we get the build working > > with mono, or we distribute the agent ourselves in an MSI via codecomplex > > or similar. What are people's feelings on this? The build only tests > > correctly > > when it is run on a Hyper-V server. As a result, unit tests are turned off > > by > > default. Is this reasonable? > > > > I think that's enough for now :) > > > > DL > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Devdeep Singh > > > Sent: 27 June 2013 10:24 PM > > > To: Donal Lafferty > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > > > Hi Donal, > > > > > > Sorry, I didn't get back to you earlier. I was attending the apache > > > collaboration conference and I forgot to reply to your mail. Really > > > sorry. Were you able to get the bvt logs for attach and detach > > > volumes? I was pointed to the attached mail by a colleague. Using the > > > instructions in the mail I was able to locate the logs and look at the > > > json examples of commands. See if it helps you. > > > > > > I also wanted to sync up with you on Hyper-V. I have gone through the > > > mail chains on Hyper-V in the last six months. Would it be possible to > > > get on a call so that I can get some queries answered? If so, what > > > time will be suitable for you? I am in Santa Clara (PST) right now. I > > > am here till mid next week (3rd of June). Will a call early next week > > > work for you? If we have a call, Kevin or Will may join it too. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Devdeep > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Donal Lafferty > > > > Sent: Thursday, J
FW: Win7 License key?
Hi Ram / Manan, Devdeep added you to a meeting to discuss Hyper-V development on Tuesday. If you've not already received it, the agenda is outlined below. DL > -Original Message- > From: Donal Lafferty > Sent: 28 June 2013 10:17 AM > To: Devdeep Singh > Cc: Will Chan; Kevin Kluge > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > Hi Devdeep, > > Can we meet today? Will is out of the office, but Kevin should be around. > > During the meeting I would like to go over the following topics: > > First up is development strategy, namely division of labour. From your > Linkedin profile, it looks like you're strongest with Windows. However, > access to people familiar with CloudStack has been the blocker. For instance, > your answer below is from a question asked ten days ago :( If you work on > items that require collaboration from the India team, it will greatly speed > development. > > Second is a series of tactical concerns that I'd like some input on. > > 1. The Hyper-V API used by CloudStack and OpenStack has been removed as > of Hyper-V 2012 R2. If we update it, OpenStack might copy us. Should we > hold off on publishing any updates until the plugin is good to go? > Alternatively, should we contract the open stack developer to update our > API calls? > > 2. Hyper-V Server 2012 does not have an NFS client, which prevents it from > using the existing staging strategy. With other Hypervisors, images can be > downloaded from an object store to a NFS cache where they are > uncompressed and made ready for distribution to hypervisors. Hyper-V > needs either a CIFS-based cache system, or it should pull directly from the > object store. In the later case, you'd have to prevent users from creating > templates from compressed images. What strategy should we pursue? (this > needs deciding today) > > 3. The RDP console proxy code needs to be updated and deployed to a > system VM. A contractor has produced an RDP proxy, but it does not provide > the correct handshaking required to select the virtual frame buffer for a > Hyper-V VM. Also, the proxy has to be added to our system VM > infrastructure, which work that Rohit used to do. Do we have any expertise > with RDP?Also, who is the System VM guru these days? > > 4. Instructions for the Hyper-V agent have been developed by replaying > JSON encoded kernel commands. However, it has been extremely difficult > to get samples of the relevant commands. What is a good strategy for > obtaining them? The current one involves begging CloudStack developers to > provide debug logs, as testing don't appear to log the actual kernel > commands. > > 5. There's no DevCloud for Hyper-V. To work on the plugin, I have deployed > a full CloudStack with Hyper-V servers as the hosts. Is this something that > is > reasonable to duplicate India? > > 6. Integrating with the Apache CloudStack build faces an IP hurdle and a > testing hurdle. The IP issue concerns compiling the Hyper-V agent. I use > VS2012SP1, which is a problem with for ASF. Either we get the build working > with mono, or we distribute the agent ourselves in an MSI via codecomplex > or similar. What are people's feelings on this? The build only tests > correctly > when it is run on a Hyper-V server. As a result, unit tests are turned off by > default. Is this reasonable? > > I think that's enough for now :) > > DL > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Devdeep Singh > > Sent: 27 June 2013 10:24 PM > > To: Donal Lafferty > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > Hi Donal, > > > > Sorry, I didn't get back to you earlier. I was attending the apache > > collaboration conference and I forgot to reply to your mail. Really > > sorry. Were you able to get the bvt logs for attach and detach > > volumes? I was pointed to the attached mail by a colleague. Using the > > instructions in the mail I was able to locate the logs and look at the > > json examples of commands. See if it helps you. > > > > I also wanted to sync up with you on Hyper-V. I have gone through the > > mail chains on Hyper-V in the last six months. Would it be possible to > > get on a call so that I can get some queries answered? If so, what > > time will be suitable for you? I am in Santa Clara (PST) right now. I > > am here till mid next week (3rd of June). Will a call early next week > > work for you? If we have a call, Kevin or Will may join it too. > > > > Regards, > > Devdeep > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Donal Lafferty > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:08 PM > > > To: Devdeep Singh > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > > > Okay, but the logs from the BVT are easier to get, no? > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Devdeep Singh > > > > Sent: 20 June 2013 9:53 PM > > > > To: Donal Lafferty > > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key? > > > > > > > > Hi Donal, > > > > > > > > I generally use firebug plugin in firefox to look at the command > > > > and json response of any co
