Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Abhinandan Prateek
Following test worked fine on 4.3 adv zone setup with Xen 6.2:

Register template
VM creation
Multiple primary storages
Storage tagging
VM, Volume snapshots
Volume from snapshot
VPC

In dev setup the storage is configured as local storage by default, since I was 
using shared storage and was not aware of this, it took some time to figure it 
out.

Other than that 4.3 worked pretty well. Though if we have any type of 
automation configured on it, it will be nice to run regression tests and know 
publish the result.

My thought will be to get this release (4.3.2) out of the door instead of 
delaying it  past 4.5, 4.5 testing is going to take time as it may require more 
bug fixing-testing iterations than 4.3.2.
As of now 4.3.2 looks promising.

Abhinandan Prateek

M +919701199011
abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com

> On 10-Dec-2014, at 3:09 am, Mike Tutkowski  
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I agree 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing.
>
> What's not clear to me is how much coverage we currently have for that
> release and how much of it is automated.
>
> A lot of fixes went into it and that's awesome, but that does increase the
> probability that something here or there was broken.
>
> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Mike Tutkowski 
> wrote:
>
>> I see it listed on the website now. Thanks :)
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Rohit Yadav > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> 4.4.2 is already released.
>>>
 On 10-Dec-2014, at 1:36 am, Mike Tutkowski <
>>> mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:

 I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0
>>> and
 4.3.2) at the same time.

 I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have
>>> enough
 bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.
>>>
>>> I understand your concern, in fact both these things including an
>>> upcoming cloudmonkey voting process, quality discussion initiatives,
>>> automation/testing efforts are all happening around the holiday season -
>>> but this simply shows that we’ve a great and diverse community, and it’s
>>> good to see so many initiatives.
>>>
>>> I think it’s certainly do-able and here’s how we grow our testing
>>> community;
>>>
>>> - include users@, users-cn@ getting more people to help testing
>>> release(s)
>>> - built and share a deb/rpm repository so testing upgrades and installs
>>> along with ACS is easier for everyone (everyone is welcome to build from
>>> source but I think Jenkins is still a better tool for building/packaging)
>>> - 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing efforts since it’s a bugfix
>>> release and requires less bandwidth
>>> - 4.5.0 will require a lot of functional testing, (new) component testing
>>> and regression testing as it is a major release with new features, a lot of
>>> changes and a new systemvmtemplate
>>>
>>> I’ll also build and share deb/rpm repository for 4.5.0 as soon as the RC
>>> is out and as part of our release process we can do that so it’s easier for
>>> users and people in general to participate without building from source
>>> (I’m not suggesting to discourage building from source in any way).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rohit Yadav
>>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>>> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
>>> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
>>>
>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>>
>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
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>>> CloudStack Consulting
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>>
>>
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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Yeah, I agree 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing.

What's not clear to me is how much coverage we currently have for that
release and how much of it is automated.

A lot of fixes went into it and that's awesome, but that does increase the
probability that something here or there was broken.

On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Mike Tutkowski 
wrote:

> I see it listed on the website now. Thanks :)
>
> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Rohit Yadav  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> 4.4.2 is already released.
>>
>> > On 10-Dec-2014, at 1:36 am, Mike Tutkowski <
>> mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0
>> and
>> > 4.3.2) at the same time.
>> >
>> > I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have
>> enough
>> > bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.
>>
>> I understand your concern, in fact both these things including an
>> upcoming cloudmonkey voting process, quality discussion initiatives,
>> automation/testing efforts are all happening around the holiday season -
>> but this simply shows that we’ve a great and diverse community, and it’s
>> good to see so many initiatives.
>>
>> I think it’s certainly do-able and here’s how we grow our testing
>> community;
>>
>> - include users@, users-cn@ getting more people to help testing
>> release(s)
>> - built and share a deb/rpm repository so testing upgrades and installs
>> along with ACS is easier for everyone (everyone is welcome to build from
>> source but I think Jenkins is still a better tool for building/packaging)
>> - 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing efforts since it’s a bugfix
>> release and requires less bandwidth
>> - 4.5.0 will require a lot of functional testing, (new) component testing
>> and regression testing as it is a major release with new features, a lot of
>> changes and a new systemvmtemplate
>>
>> I’ll also build and share deb/rpm repository for 4.5.0 as soon as the RC
>> is out and as part of our release process we can do that so it’s easier for
>> users and people in general to participate without building from source
>> (I’m not suggesting to discourage building from source in any way).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rohit Yadav
>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
>> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
>>
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>
>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>> CloudStack Consulting
>> CloudStack Software Engineering<
>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<
>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
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>
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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I see it listed on the website now. Thanks :)

On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Rohit Yadav  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> 4.4.2 is already released.
>
> > On 10-Dec-2014, at 1:36 am, Mike Tutkowski  > wrote:
> >
> > I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0
> and
> > 4.3.2) at the same time.
> >
> > I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have
> enough
> > bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.
>
> I understand your concern, in fact both these things including an upcoming
> cloudmonkey voting process, quality discussion initiatives,
> automation/testing efforts are all happening around the holiday season -
> but this simply shows that we’ve a great and diverse community, and it’s
> good to see so many initiatives.
>
> I think it’s certainly do-able and here’s how we grow our testing
> community;
>
> - include users@, users-cn@ getting more people to help testing release(s)
> - built and share a deb/rpm repository so testing upgrades and installs
> along with ACS is easier for everyone (everyone is welcome to build from
> source but I think Jenkins is still a better tool for building/packaging)
> - 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing efforts since it’s a bugfix
> release and requires less bandwidth
> - 4.5.0 will require a lot of functional testing, (new) component testing
> and regression testing as it is a major release with new features, a lot of
> changes and a new systemvmtemplate
>
> I’ll also build and share deb/rpm repository for 4.5.0 as soon as the RC
> is out and as part of our release process we can do that so it’s easier for
> users and people in general to participate without building from source
> (I’m not suggesting to discourage building from source in any way).
>
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com 
> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
>
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> CloudStack Consulting
> CloudStack Software Engineering<
> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<
> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
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> a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under
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>


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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Rohit Yadav
Hi Mike,

4.4.2 is already released.

> On 10-Dec-2014, at 1:36 am, Mike Tutkowski  
> wrote:
>
> I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0 and
> 4.3.2) at the same time.
>
> I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have enough
> bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.

I understand your concern, in fact both these things including an upcoming 
cloudmonkey voting process, quality discussion initiatives, automation/testing 
efforts are all happening around the holiday season - but this simply shows 
that we’ve a great and diverse community, and it’s good to see so many 
initiatives.

I think it’s certainly do-able and here’s how we grow our testing community;

- include users@, users-cn@ getting more people to help testing release(s)
- built and share a deb/rpm repository so testing upgrades and installs along 
with ACS is easier for everyone (everyone is welcome to build from source but I 
think Jenkins is still a better tool for building/packaging)
- 4.3.2 mainly requires regression testing efforts since it’s a bugfix release 
and requires less bandwidth
- 4.5.0 will require a lot of functional testing, (new) component testing and 
regression testing as it is a major release with new features, a lot of changes 
and a new systemvmtemplate

I’ll also build and share deb/rpm repository for 4.5.0 as soon as the RC is out 
and as part of our release process we can do that so it’s easier for users and 
people in general to participate without building from source (I’m not 
suggesting to discourage building from source in any way).

Regards,
Rohit Yadav
Software Architect, ShapeBlue
M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab

Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services

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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Actually, it looks like we're considering the release of 4.4.2 in December
along with 4.5.0 and 4.3.2.

We definitely should make sure we give people sufficient time to test RCs
and not run VOTE threads simultaneously.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Mike Tutkowski  wrote:

> I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0 and
> 4.3.2) at the same time.
>
> I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have
> enough bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Rohit Yadav 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In last couple of weeks 103 issues were fixed on 4.3 branch since 4.3.1
>> release: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/4.3/CHANGES.md
>>
>> I want to kick start release process for 4.3.2 next week (15 Dec 2014),
>> but before that let's test 4.3 branch and fix any blockers and critical
>> issues. I'll meanwhile try to fix other pending issues till the end of
>> this week. I've tested 4.3 branch with KVM in both basic and advance
>> zones and it has worked for me so far.
>>
>> For the purpose of involving users in the testing process I've build a
>> noredist rpm/deb repository using SHA 32adae4 from 4.3 branch. Please
>> use the following repository for testing 4.3.2-SNAPSHOT:
>>
>> http://packages.bhaisaab.org/cloudstack/testing
>>
>> If you find any blocker or critical issues please report them on this
>> thread. Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rohit Yadav
>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>> M. +91 8826230892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
>> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
>> PS. If you see any footer below, I did not add it :)
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
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>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I wonder perhaps if it will be difficult for us to test two RCs (4.5.0 and
4.3.2) at the same time.

I expect the two VOTE threads will overlap and people might not have enough
bandwidth to devote to testing both at approximately the same time.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Rohit Yadav 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> In last couple of weeks 103 issues were fixed on 4.3 branch since 4.3.1
> release: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/4.3/CHANGES.md
>
> I want to kick start release process for 4.3.2 next week (15 Dec 2014),
> but before that let's test 4.3 branch and fix any blockers and critical
> issues. I'll meanwhile try to fix other pending issues till the end of
> this week. I've tested 4.3 branch with KVM in both basic and advance
> zones and it has worked for me so far.
>
> For the purpose of involving users in the testing process I've build a
> noredist rpm/deb repository using SHA 32adae4 from 4.3 branch. Please
> use the following repository for testing 4.3.2-SNAPSHOT:
>
> http://packages.bhaisaab.org/cloudstack/testing
>
> If you find any blocker or critical issues please report them on this
> thread. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> M. +91 8826230892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
> PS. If you see any footer below, I did not add it :)
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
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Re: [TESTING] CloudStack 4.3.2 testing

2014-12-09 Thread Ian Duffy
Fantastic work Rohit! :)

I tested with the dev branch of devcloud4 binary installation basic [1].

Everything worked without issue, brought up a new ubuntu vm based of the
openvm.eu templates [2]. Template came up without issue, console worked,
password and hostname were successfully set.

Created SG group rules for HTTP and SSH. Both worked as expected.

[1]
https://github.com/imduffy15/devcloud4/tree/dev/binary-installation-basic
[2] http://dl.openvm.eu/cloudstack/ubuntu/vanilla/jenkins/

On 9 December 2014 at 13:47, Rohit Yadav  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> In last couple of weeks 103 issues were fixed on 4.3 branch since 4.3.1
> release: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/4.3/CHANGES.md
>
> I want to kick start release process for 4.3.2 next week (15 Dec 2014),
> but before that let's test 4.3 branch and fix any blockers and critical
> issues. I'll meanwhile try to fix other pending issues till the end of
> this week. I've tested 4.3 branch with KVM in both basic and advance
> zones and it has worked for me so far.
>
> For the purpose of involving users in the testing process I've build a
> noredist rpm/deb repository using SHA 32adae4 from 4.3 branch. Please
> use the following repository for testing 4.3.2-SNAPSHOT:
>
> http://packages.bhaisaab.org/cloudstack/testing
>
> If you find any blocker or critical issues please report them on this
> thread. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> M. +91 8826230892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
> PS. If you see any footer below, I did not add it :)
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
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