we like dev better then users :(
I think the following list speaks for itself http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
Re: we like dev better then users :(
On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
RE: we like dev better then users :(
Daan, This is a great service you're providing to the community! I will go to my management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up on your list. Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an easy way to filter in your report? --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself. DaanOps On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
Re: we like dev better then users :(
You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to handle support in real-time. - Original Message - From: Alex Huang alex.hu...@citrix.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :( Daan, This is a great service you're providing to the community! I will go to my management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up on your list. Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an easy way to filter in your report? --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself. DaanOps On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
Re: we like dev better then users :(
Alex, what do you mean by tag? Most of what I did is my personal judgement, hardly any automation involved. I hope we can give some folow up to this. I think the dev report is useful. The users report is less useful however. I am lagging a week behind. In most cases people would have answered if they had the time/knowledge earlier. What worries me most is the tone I see in messages on the users list. I report only on messages that are not answered at all. Some others I happened to stumble upon are polemic rants. Of course these are not the 'average' users that will go to a dev list first, before tone down their mails. I do not know if we are equipped to handle this properly. One thing I can do is find an earlier moment next week to make my report. regards, Daan On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage kel...@bbits.ca wrote: You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to handle support in real-time. - Original Message - From: Alex Huang alex.hu...@citrix.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :( Daan, This is a great service you're providing to the community! I will go to my management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up on your list. Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an easy way to filter in your report? --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself. DaanOps On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
RE: we like dev better then users :(
Hi Daan, Sorry I meant to subject tag your email so people who's interested in helping can easily get to them. --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:11 PM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Alex, what do you mean by tag? Most of what I did is my personal judgement, hardly any automation involved. I hope we can give some folow up to this. I think the dev report is useful. The users report is less useful however. I am lagging a week behind. In most cases people would have answered if they had the time/knowledge earlier. What worries me most is the tone I see in messages on the users list. I report only on messages that are not answered at all. Some others I happened to stumble upon are polemic rants. Of course these are not the 'average' users that will go to a dev list first, before tone down their mails. I do not know if we are equipped to handle this properly. One thing I can do is find an earlier moment next week to make my report. regards, Daan On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage kel...@bbits.ca wrote: You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to handle support in real-time. - Original Message - From: Alex Huang alex.hu...@citrix.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :( Daan, This is a great service you're providing to the community! I will go to my management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up on your list. Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an easy way to filter in your report? --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself. DaanOps On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
[Responsiveness report] 2013w30 (was: we like dev better then users :( )
sure, this one allright? On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Alex Huang alex.hu...@citrix.com wrote: Hi Daan, Sorry I meant to subject tag your email so people who's interested in helping can easily get to them. --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:11 PM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Alex, what do you mean by tag? Most of what I did is my personal judgement, hardly any automation involved. I hope we can give some folow up to this. I think the dev report is useful. The users report is less useful however. I am lagging a week behind. In most cases people would have answered if they had the time/knowledge earlier. What worries me most is the tone I see in messages on the users list. I report only on messages that are not answered at all. Some others I happened to stumble upon are polemic rants. Of course these are not the 'average' users that will go to a dev list first, before tone down their mails. I do not know if we are equipped to handle this properly. One thing I can do is find an earlier moment next week to make my report. regards, Daan On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage kel...@bbits.ca wrote: You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to handle support in real-time. - Original Message - From: Alex Huang alex.hu...@citrix.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :( Daan, This is a great service you're providing to the community! I will go to my management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up on your list. Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an easy way to filter in your report? --Alex -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM To: dev Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :( Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself. DaanOps On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think the following list speaks for itself Although it's really good that you point this out I took the following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by resolving bugs and writing new features. In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something. For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list and work on $dayjob It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is hard enough) is my main priority. Wido http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up networking on single machine by Philip Andrews http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import questions by Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb windows vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1 by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv Networking by Boyer, Marc regards, Daan
