RE: A general Note

2003-11-25 Thread TREGAN Fabien (APTUS)
Title: RE: A general Note





Sylvain wrote :


> I don't exactly 
> know where this feeling comes from with Cocoon: 


When you start being strong at something, you start "feeling" things, but you are not always conscious of thing you feel, you can't explain them. And one day, you ear either a great master or a child saying something that seems very simple, but that you understand very deeply.

I think that the feeling that cocoon is "your" when you get start using (loving ?) it (him ?) just come from the fact that it's all made of all that simples, childlike, things that all of us already knew without being able of expressing (coding ?) them.

For me, learning Cocoon, lurking cocoon-dev (and following your gentle fight with Stephano) has been the taoist part I was missing in my computer-sciences learning.


Thanks to all of you,
fabien.






RE: [RT] FirstFriday - monthly virtual Hackathon

2003-10-10 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] FirstFriday - monthly virtual Hackathon





> De : Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : jeudi 9 octobre 2003 15:26


...


> > http://irc.codehaus.org/channels/geronimo/2003-09-15.html
> 
> Impressive example of zero signal/noise ratio, BTW.
> 
> I really hope we do better than this.


  Since you won't prevent people from joking and saying hello and asking news about wives and children, we should either have two IRC channel in parralel (/join #cocoon #cocoon_logged) (handy with ircII, but boring with mirc), or have a "protocol" to tell the bot what need to be logged.

  I'd suggest tu use the java syntax (do not log messages that beging with "//", stop logging a user if message == "/*" until message=="*/"), but it poses the problem of code copy/paste.

  Two other problems with code copy/paste are :
-Bot's flood protection should be disabled at least for code
-Since the client will send each line as one message, ligned might be mixed with other peoples messages. That might be prevented with introducing the "" and "" message with would also allow pretty printing of logs and use of java-like comments.

fabien.






RE: [RT] FirstFriday - monthly virtual Hackathon

2003-10-08 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] FirstFriday - monthly virtual Hackathon







> De : Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


>Does anyone know of an IRC client that's not blocked by a firewall?


Blocking IRC is the problem of the firewall and has nothing to do with the client (if a client could pass firewall, why would there be blocking firewalls ?)

Another solution might be to find someone who do not have firewall problems and can install one of this "irc web gate" (and IRC client (server ?) that can be accessed remotely via a web interface, one of them is called CGI-IRC and is free IIRC)

fabien.






[OT] Sorry for HTML but... (was : RE: Woody : advanced form layou t)

2003-09-08 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: [OT] Sorry for HTML but... (was : RE: Woody : advanced form layout)





When I send a mail to cocoon-dev, I always click "plain text" in outlook, it's plain text in my sent box, but I receive it as HTML.

This did not happened before I switched to W2K, I still use the same version of outlook (2000), and I can't switch to any other client, any idea ?

fabien.






RE: Woody : advanced form layout

2003-09-08 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: Woody : advanced form layout





The two best solution I know are :


-Use dynamic properties (have a look at msdn, or, IIRC, check the syntax of the "_expression_" keyword in Mozilla's CSS (don't know if IE supports it), it's something like :

tabpane.visible {
  width:_expression_([some _javascript_])
}


-Do not use 


tabpane.hidden {
  display:none;
}
 
but :


tabpane {
  width: 100%;
}


tabpane.hidden {
  overflow: hidden;
  height: 0px;
}


and put the tabpane element in a fixed width element.


If you know that you tabpane's height won't exceed N pixels and won't be scrollable, you can also put the content of each tabpane in the same div, use an overflow:hidden and scroll the div to switch the content.

HTH,
fabien.


> -Message d'origine-
> De : Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : samedi 6 septembre 2003 21:00
> À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: Woody : advanced form layout
> 
> 
> Robert Koberg wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I may be misunderstanding your need, but you could simply 
> write out all of
> >you tab's display elements initially set to 'display:none'. 
> Set a initial
> >focus tab (some variable sent from the server written to a 
> JS var to be used
> >by the client) and set it's elements set to display:block or 
> display:inline
> >where appropriate. On click of another tab set the current 
> tab's elements to
> >display:none and the new focus to display:block/inline where 
> appropriate.
> >
> >This is what we do for our CMS. You can see some layout L&Fs at:
> >http://www.livestoryboard.com/Products/Screen_shots.html
> >
> >Is this the kind of thing you are talking about?
> >
> 
> No, no : this is exactly what I did to swith the tabs. What 
> I'm looking 
> for is a way to avoid the page layout to be recomputed when the user 
> switches to another tab (they don't fill the whole screen).
> 
> Currently, the layout is recomputed to match the size of the selected 
> tab content. I'd like the tab panel to have the size largest 
> tab content 
> so that its size doesn't change when we navigate through the tabs.
> 
> But as Peter said, there doesn't seem to be a solution for this other 
> than either dynamically changing the CSS (complicated solution) or 
> imposing a fixed size.
> 
> Sylvain
> 
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RE: [RT] towards perfect application framework

2003-09-01 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] towards perfect application framework





> WE DO NOT HAVE GUI FRAMEWORK!


<...>


> While looking for Eclipse plugins I have found a commercial 
> package called 
> W4Toolkit (http://www.w4toolkit.com). It is i think similar 
> to .NET philosophy 
> but coded entirely in Java. Please mind that I do not want to 
> advertise any of 
> the products. I am just pointing ideas ( I do not even like both :) ) 


Have a look at Java Server Faces (JSF, easily found at java.sun.com), you might find it interesting.


fabien.






RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] Starting 2.2





> /me feels that you are trying to solve some problem without 
> stating what 
> the problem is
> 
> Vadim


Planning a IRC block with a mIRC log generator and all ? Great !


;)


fabien.






[TOT] RE: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1

2003-07-28 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: [TOT] RE: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1







> -Message d'origine-
> De : Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : lundi 28 juillet 2003 16:33
> À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1
> 
> 
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I will start with the release tomorrow morning around 10:00 
> european time, so please don't commit from that time on until 
> I finished building the release.
> >
> >PS: and put the champaigne into the fridge.
> >
> 
> It's spelled "champagne" ! Wines are serious things in France ;-)


How dare you say that ?? Last time I came to Anyware and you made me visit the server's room, their was a bottle of red Fronton in it... You lives in Toulouse and buy Fronton just because Fronton is 10km nearer than Gaillac... Did you ever tast Gaillac Passion from Tecou's Vault ? Indeed, wines *use to be* serious things in Fance... 

BTW, I don't care, I do not drink alcool... :)


fabien.


PS : If you ever oganise a GetTogether in France, jsut let me know, I know where you can rent huge houses near the forest, with horses, swimming pool, and video projector, 40 minutes from Toulouse in the middle of the Gaillacois.

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> 
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RE: [RT] Webdavapps with Cocoon

2003-07-28 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] Webdavapps with Cocoon





> But the bad thing about WebDAV on Windoze (aka "webfolders") is that 
> it's not a real filesystem : you cannot open the file directly from 
> there, but only copy/paste it on a "real" filesystem. Or did I missed 
> something ?


-Shell extensions exists that allow you to mount webdav adresses in your namespace (i've only tested commercial ones, but it was a year ago, some free one may have appeared since)

-Some window app (Office, Epic 4.3, ...) are webdav aware.


But, indeed, the "webfolders jumble" alone can't be considered as a filesystem.



f.






mailing requests/responses to/from Cocoon

2003-07-02 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: mailing requests/responses to/from Cocoon





Does someone have any (successfull ?) experience trying use Cocoon to either handle smtp request and send pop answers, or to run as a plugin of an (opensource) mail server ?

fabien.