Re: [M10N] When to ditch Ant and switch to Maven

2005-10-26 Thread Jorg Heymans

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

> * Still being able to use gump.

IIRC, the maven boys have no intention of supporting Gump as of yet. If
nothing else we'll have to craft something ourselves, or maintain
gump.xml manually.

Jorg



Re: [M10N] When to ditch Ant and switch to Maven

2005-10-26 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
 


* M2 stable enough (2.0 is out so this should be fullfilled)
* Reasonably fast (don't need to be as fast as Ant, but not several
times slower)
* Easy configuration of what blocks to compile (like blocks.properties
and maybe even dependency aware)
* M2 bundled with Cocoon (it should still be enough to just download and
type ./build.sh)
   



I agree with above set, here are mine :
(all mainly pom related)

* produce jar artifacts from core and every block
* produce jar artifacts from core samples and block samples
* be able to run all tests
 


Yes, would also like to add:

* Still being able to use gump.

/Daniel



Re: [M10N] When to ditch Ant and switch to Maven

2005-10-23 Thread Jorg Heymans

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

> 
> * M2 stable enough (2.0 is out so this should be fullfilled)
> * Reasonably fast (don't need to be as fast as Ant, but not several
> times slower)
> * Easy configuration of what blocks to compile (like blocks.properties
> and maybe even dependency aware)
> * M2 bundled with Cocoon (it should still be enough to just download and
> type ./build.sh)

I agree with above set, here are mine :
(all mainly pom related)

 * produce jar artifacts from core and every block
 * produce jar artifacts from core samples and block samples
 * be able to run all tests


Jorg



Re: [M10N] When to ditch Ant and switch to Maven

2005-10-23 Thread Ralph Goers

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:



* M2 stable enough (2.0 is out so this should be fullfilled)
* Reasonably fast (don't need to be as fast as Ant, but not several 
times slower)


For me, this isn't an issue.

* Easy configuration of what blocks to compile (like blocks.properties 
and maybe even dependency aware)


??? Compiling all the blocks is not the issue for me.  block selection 
should happen at install time.  However, I'm sure there are ways to 
exclude or include blocks at build time.


* M2 bundled with Cocoon (it should still be enough to just download 
and type ./build.sh)


Further rquirements?

/Daniel



[M10N] When to ditch Ant and switch to Maven

2005-10-23 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

was: [M10N] separating samples from blocks

Jorg Heymans wrote:


Another thing i didn't think of last night is that this will impact the
current ant build of 2.2 as well. How easy is it to change this, just a
matter of adjusting paths ?

More importantly : how long should we still care about the Ant build in
2.2.x ?


Until you or someone else cast a vote about ditching Ant and go for Maven


At what point would people be happy to ditch it and go maven all
the way?

Essentially when the Maven build is "good enough". I haven't tried it or 
followed the development for a while, so maybe it allready is. IMO, the 
maven build doesn't need to replace every single Ant task we have, some 
of them can be reimplemented in Maven when someone have a strong enough 
itch.



It'll become increasingly more difficult to keep both builds
happy, and trying to do so might make a mess of both.

I think we should gather a list of _minimal_ requirements that the maven
build should support before we stop caring or even remove the ant build
in 2.2.  I'll start a new thread for this.
 


You where not fast enough ;)

* M2 stable enough (2.0 is out so this should be fullfilled)
* Reasonably fast (don't need to be as fast as Ant, but not several 
times slower)
* Easy configuration of what blocks to compile (like blocks.properties 
and maybe even dependency aware)
* M2 bundled with Cocoon (it should still be enough to just download and 
type ./build.sh)


Further rquirements?

/Daniel