Re: International apache branches

2004-05-13 Thread Steven Noels
On 11 May 2004, at 01:16, Scherler, Thorsten wrote:

I am thinking about to open up a cocoon/-lenya site in Spain.
There is a growing community and the majority wants to communicate in 
spanish.

Does anybody knows what the ASF policy for international branches is 
(Greg as chairman)?
I'm not sure whether there is a policy for "international branches", as 
I don't understand the concept per se.

If you just mean a Spanish language version of the Lenya website (i.e. 
providing Spanish translation), or having language-specific mailing 
lists, all this has been done before, and is just a matter of asking to 
the infrastructure team. The incubating Spamassassin project has German 
mailing lists, for example.

The important thing here is oversight: making sure the PMC is able to 
follow what is going on.

Can it be a direct spin-off of e.g. lenya (like e.g. 
http://www.xaraya.com/ and http://es.xaraya.com/)?
Again, I wouldn't call this a "spin-off", as this presumably shouldn't 
be a fork or some area where development and community focus diverges 
from the original (English) one. It's just a matter of translation, and 
providing language-specific discussion lists, no?

Could it be then hosted like http://es.cocoon.apache.org/lenya/ or 
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/es/?
I don't see any problem with having a Lenya committer posting Spanish 
pages in the Lenya webspace.

Just make sure you don't disperse an already small community into two 
smaller ones.


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Re: International apache branches

2004-05-13 Thread David Crossley
Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
> Hello Greg, cocoon devs, forrest devs, lenya devs.
> 
> I am thinking about to open up a cocoon/-lenya site in Spain.
> There is a growing community and the majority wants to communicate in 
> spanish.

That could be done via local user groups, then the multilingual
people would bring the ideas into the Apache project communities
to be discussed and implemented. We could not fragment or replicate
our actual projects.

> Does anybody knows what the ASF policy for international branches is 
> (Greg as chairman)?

I do not know - that question would need to be asked in a
different forum, i.e. not at this project level. I expect
that the short answer is no. Perhaps ask at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> How forrest deals with i18n?

We have people at forrest-dev interested in extending Forrest's
internationalization abilities. Please join us.

--David

> Any help, input, links or thoughts are highly welcome.
> 
> King regards
> Thorsten



International apache branches

2004-05-10 Thread Scherler, Thorsten
Hello Greg, cocoon devs, forrest devs, lenya devs.

I am thinking about to open up a cocoon/-lenya site in Spain.
There is a growing community and the majority wants to communicate in 
spanish.

Does anybody knows what the ASF policy for international branches is 
(Greg as chairman)?

Can it be a direct spin-off of e.g. lenya (like e.g. 
http://www.xaraya.com/ and http://es.xaraya.com/)?

Could it be then hosted like http://es.cocoon.apache.org/lenya/ or 
http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/es/?

How forrest deals with i18n?

Any help, input, links or thoughts are highly welcome.

King regards
Thorsten
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