Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:


Leszek Gawron wrote:



AFAIR due to the fact that resource:/ protocol is not as functional 
as file:/ (no directiories?) and it would be quite intensive 
operation to find .xconf files.



Carsten made the resource: protocol traversable a couple of months ago.



Nope, this was "context:"...

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Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Leszek Gawron wrote:


Reinhard Poetz wrote:


Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:


Leszek Gawron wrote:


Reinhard Poetz wrote:






It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars.


Why can't we?


AFAIR due to the fact that resource:/ protocol is not as functional as 
file:/ (no directiories?) and it would be quite intensive operation to 
find .xconf files.


Carsten made the resource: protocol traversable a couple of months ago.

/Daniel



Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-26 Thread Leszek Gawron

Reinhard Poetz wrote:

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:


Leszek Gawron wrote:


Reinhard Poetz wrote:


Should we move the stylesheets




I would help a lot to be able to deploy cocoon with no additional 
files at all. What do you say if we moved cocoon logo and default 
stylesheets (the ones styling error pages etc.) to some jar (either 
existing or a new one)?




A new one. IMO we should move away from the monolitic thinking and 
start to think in terms of pluggins/bundles/blocks. Making the minimal 
Cocoon really lean would help using it embeded in new and innovative 
contexts, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11136640512&r=1&w=2.



This way we can have cocoon that consists of:
- bunch of .jar files
- web.xml which hardly changes
- a set of .xconf and logkit files.




+1


It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars.




Why can't we?
AFAIR due to the fact that resource:/ protocol is not as functional as 
file:/ (no directiories?) and it would be quite intensive operation to 
find .xconf files.





theoretically we can but soon we will have .cob files that *are* single 
files. So for now *I* wouldn't invest too much work.

What will cocoon core consist of then? I mean file types..

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Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-26 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:

Leszek Gawron wrote:


Reinhard Poetz wrote:


Should we move the stylesheets



I would help a lot to be able to deploy cocoon with no additional 
files at all. What do you say if we moved cocoon logo and default 
stylesheets (the ones styling error pages etc.) to some jar (either 
existing or a new one)?



A new one. IMO we should move away from the monolitic thinking and start 
to think in terms of pluggins/bundles/blocks. Making the minimal Cocoon 
really lean would help using it embeded in new and innovative contexts, 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11136640512&r=1&w=2.



This way we can have cocoon that consists of:
- bunch of .jar files
- web.xml which hardly changes
- a set of .xconf and logkit files.



+1


It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars.



Why can't we?


theoretically we can but soon we will have .cob files that *are* single files. 
So for now *I* wouldn't invest too much work.


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Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-26 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Leszek Gawron wrote:


Reinhard Poetz wrote:


Should we move the stylesheets


I would help a lot to be able to deploy cocoon with no additional 
files at all. What do you say if we moved cocoon logo and default 
stylesheets (the ones styling error pages etc.) to some jar (either 
existing or a new one)?


A new one. IMO we should move away from the monolitic thinking and start 
to think in terms of pluggins/bundles/blocks. Making the minimal Cocoon 
really lean would help using it embeded in new and innovative contexts, 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11136640512&r=1&w=2.



This way we can have cocoon that consists of:
- bunch of .jar files
- web.xml which hardly changes
- a set of .xconf and logkit files.


+1


It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars.


Why can't we?

This way cocoon would be much more friendly for dependency resolution 
tools like maven.



/Daniel



Other default cocoon resources (was: Location of cforms stylesheets)

2005-05-26 Thread Leszek Gawron

Reinhard Poetz wrote:

Should we move the stylesheets
I would help a lot to be able to deploy cocoon with no additional files 
at all. What do you say if we moved cocoon logo and default stylesheets 
(the ones styling error pages etc.) to some jar (either existing or a 
new one)?


This way we can have cocoon that consists of:
- bunch of .jar files
- web.xml which hardly changes
- a set of .xconf and logkit files.

It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars. This way cocoon would 
be much more friendly for dependency resolution tools like maven.


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