Re: Removing sitemap's check-reload attribute
On 04.06.2004 15:14, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed check-reload that exists on map:mount whose existence I nearly forgot about, and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed) There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG, CForms to name a few. So I propose to remove this feature, and have automatic sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else. WDYT? +1 I never switched it off. IIRC there is also such a setting in cocoon.xconf for the root sitemap. Does it make sense to switch reload on or off for each subsitemap individually or is the one setting in cocoon.xconf satisfying enough for all sitemaps? Joerg
Re: Removing sitemap's check-reload attribute
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed check-reload that exists on map:mount whose existence I nearly forgot about, and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed) There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG, CForms to name a few. Actually, you can turn off XSP reloading. PS -1 on removing in cocoon.xconf, 0 on removing in map:mount Vadim
Re: Removing sitemap's check-reload attribute
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove this feature, and have automatic sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else. WDYT? +1 Ugo
Re: Removing sitemap's check-reload attribute
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed check-reload that exists on map:mount whose existence I nearly forgot about, and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed) There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG, CForms to name a few. So I propose to remove this feature, and have automatic sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else. WDYT? I like the fact that auto-reloading should be consistent and global, but I would also like to have the ability to turn it off, especially in production environments because this removes some performance overhead in the checking (even if it's asynchronous). Comments? -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Removing sitemap's check-reload attribute
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed check-reload that exists on map:mount whose existence I nearly forgot about, and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed) There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG, CForms to name a few. So I propose to remove this feature, and have automatic sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else. WDYT? I like the fact that auto-reloading should be consistent and global, but I would also like to have the ability to turn it off, especially in production environments because this removes some performance overhead in the checking (even if it's asynchronous). Comments? There were some talks related to this when we discussed store cleanup, as reload is often related to compiling the contents of a Source (e.g. building a TreeProcessor, a form definition, a stylesheet, etc) and caching that compiled form for later use. Caching also possibly meaning purging no more used entries, contrarily to what happens today with private Maps to store these objects. There's an initial attempt at this in the scratchpad (util.SourceCache) which we may build upon. That may also be a service provided at a lower level by SourceUtil (but then relying on an ugly static setting) or by the SourceResolver itself. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }