Re: Success stories

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Le 18 janv. 06, à 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier a écrit :

...It would help a lot if I could show where Cocoon is being used (big 
names preferrred)...


If "big names in a small part of a small country" apply, I have two 
live examples (their content is in French but you'll get the idea), and 
a few more references below. People, bear with me if you've heard this 
before ;-)


http://www.nouvo.ch/ is the website of "nouvo", a TV show of the 
national Swiss television (french-speaking branch) which is about 
innovation, gadgets, multimedia etc. In addition to being a very 
important part of the show, the website is used as a kind of laboratory 
to test new ideas for video distribution and audience interaction.


We'll be adding video forums next week, for audience interaction via 
webcams, using Flash-based video integrated in the Cocoon-generated 
website. I can't say more for now but this is public information 
already, so here you go.


They're very happy with the system and it's very stable, more info on 
my weblog at


http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000566.html
http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000370.html

The same Cocoon-based core is used to run http://archives.tsr.ch/home 
where the historical video archives of the same TV network 
(http://www.tsr.ch) are published.


See http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000570.html.

This is all public information, so feel free to cite these projects as 
references, or ask me off-list if you need more details.


I haven't checked if someone mentioned Jack Iver's and friends 
presentation at the last GT, you can find it at 
http://www.cocoongt.org/Slides-and-recordings.html.


The presentation mentions the Webby award-winning "Merck Manual Second 
Home Edition" website, which also runs on Cocoon.


Other big names references around here are Otego's work for the Swiss 
Interbank Clearing, search for


otego "swiss interbank clearing" cocoon

on Google.

And also SWX, the electronic Swiss Exchange, mentioned in 
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html


Hope this helps,
-Bertrand

Re: Success stories

[Christoph Hermann]

Sylvain Wallez schrieb:

Hello,

> Cocoon is also used [...] for large CMS/DMS in the french administration
> and many french universities.
   ^^^

Could you give me some details about this? I would be very interested.

Christoph

Re: Success stories

[Sylvain Wallez]

Irv Salisbury wrote:



On 1/19/06, *Gianugo Rabellino* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi Nicolás,
>
> Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.
> Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online
but seems
> like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the
presentation in
> http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events
> presentations".
>
> Gianugo? :-)

Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me on
stage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such material
being available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got which
was a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.

BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for you
of banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
evaluation process.

Ciao,


--
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com
(blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)


I can't give you anything official either, but we have used cocoon 
over the past 2 years on multiple projects at Pfizer, Xerox, and 
Kodak.  It is also at the heart of Realnet, which is currently 
installed at Bank of America and Freddie Mac.  So, those are some 
pretty big names.


Cocoon is also used by a large european airplane manufacturer (are there 
many of them? :-) ), and for large CMS/DMS in the french administration 
and many french universities.


Sylvain

--
Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies
http://bluxte.net http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research & Technology Director

Re: Success stories

[Irv Salisbury]

On 1/19/06, Gianugo Rabellino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi Nicolás,>> Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.> Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems
> like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in> http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events> presentations".
>> Gianugo? :-)Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me onstage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such materialbeing available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got whichwas a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for youof banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
evaluation process.Ciao,--Gianugo RabellinoPro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.comOrixo, the XML business alliance: 
http://www.orixo.com(blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)
I can't give you anything official either, but we have used cocoon over
the past 2 years on multiple projects at Pfizer, Xerox, and
Kodak.  It is also at the heart of Realnet, which is currently
installed at Bank of America and Freddie Mac.  So, those are some
pretty big names.

Irv

Re: Success stories

[Gianugo Rabellino]

On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Nicolás,
>
> Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.
> Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems
> like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in
> http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events
> presentations".
>
> Gianugo? :-)

Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me on
stage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such material
being available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got which
was a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.

BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for you
of banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
evaluation process.

Ciao,


--
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com
(blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)

Re: Success stories

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Nicolás,

Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice. 
Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems 
like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in 
http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events 
presentations".


Gianugo? :-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build 
our own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I 
could show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I 
suggest you put that information somewhere visible. Other projects 
already do that (http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).


I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a 
list.


If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!

Thanks!

Re: Success stories

[Joerg Heinicke]

On 18.01.2006 23:51, Torsten Curdt wrote:


There is also Dresdner Bank and Vodafone ...and I know O2 is using it

...and there are a few more banks. Not sure about there official  
statements though.


We can at least provide "official" hints:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&w=4&r=1&s=Jonas+Kilian&q=b

:)

Jörg

Re: Success stories

[Joerg Heinicke]

On 18.01.2006 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred).


Another interesting list might be 
http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000389.html. We had a "success 
stories" session at the Cocoon GetTogether 2004. That's what Bertrand's 
post is about. The minutes of the session can be found at 
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GT2004Gianugo.


Jörg

Re: Success stories

[Torsten Curdt]

yes, there is such a page, at least as pure list of links: http:// 
cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html. With the big names it is  
somewhat difficult. You have to search them in the list. The "big"  
names that I would mention are vnunet.com, the Eurex and Eurex US  
and the Swiss Exchange.


There is also Dresdner Bank and Vodafone ...and I know O2 is using it

...and there are a few more banks. Not sure about there official  
statements though.


cheers
--
Torsten


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Re: Success stories

[Joerg Heinicke]

On 18.01.2006 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).


I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.


If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!


Hello Nicolás,

yes, there is such a page, at least as pure list of links: 
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html. With the big names it 
is somewhat difficult. You have to search them in the list. The "big" 
names that I would mention are vnunet.com, the Eurex and Eurex US and 
the Swiss Exchange.


This pure list was extended to success stories or with additional 
information some time ago: 
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/695.html. But not so 
many links were added with this additional information up to now.


Hope this helps.

Jörg

Re: Success stories

[Andreas Hochsteger]

Hi Nicolás,

there is a section called "Live Sites" on the Cocoon Website which lists 
many websites running a certain version of Cocoon:

http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.0.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-1.x.html

Perhaps you can find there what you are looking for ...

HTH,
Andreas

Nicolás Lichtmaier schrieb:
Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).


I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.


If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!

Thanks!

Success stories

[Nicolás Lichtmaier]

Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).


I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.


If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!

Thanks!

Re: Impress your boss: Cocoon success stories

[Sylvain Wallez]

Antonio Fiol Bonnín wrote:
I'd be grateful if you could send me that presentation for my boss.
We're on the "why do you say you want this thing called cocoon in the
project?" stage at the moment.
 

All the GetTogether presentations should be available in the Cocoon 
distribution mirrors after the conference (see 
http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  and follow the "material from 
events" link for last year's presentations)

Sylvain
--
Sylvain Wallez  Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain   http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }

Re: Impress your boss: Cocoon success stories

[Antonio Fiol Bonnín]

I'd be grateful if you could send me that presentation for my boss.
We're on the "why do you say you want this thing called cocoon in the
project?" stage at the moment.

Thank you very much.


Antonio Fiol


On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:11:25 +0200, Gianugo Rabellino
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the title of my upcoming presentation at the next Cocoon
> GetTogether in Gent (http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004/). This isn't
> going to be the usual presentation, and I need your help to make it
> happen.

Impress your boss: Cocoon success stories

[Gianugo Rabellino]

This is the title of my upcoming presentation at the next Cocoon 
GetTogether in Gent (http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004/). This isn't 
going to be the usual presentation, and I need your help to make it 
happen.

The idea is to have on stage a group of 6 to 10 speakers presenting 
their successful Cocoon projects. No more than 5-6 slides each, 
following a common template (I'll set up a Wiki page soonish), no more 
than 5-8 minutes each, pure "lighting talk" style.

Now, since I anticipate some of your concerns, here is some specific 
information:

1. while we would of course just love to hear company names, you don't 
have to provide them if you have privacy issues. Stating something 
along the lines of "company working in the XXX field, with n employees 
and y turnover" would be more than enough. But if you are able to 
convince your boss/customer to come out from the shadows, please do!

2. you don't have to come to Gent if you can't (but of course you're 
most welcome). I'm willing to be your proxy if you're far away or just 
have no time: all you'll have to do is work through a very short 
interview I'll send you, maybe answer a 10 minutes phone call if that's 
needed, and I'll take care of the rest. I'm willing to take care of the 
rest *even* if you do come on stage, so lack of time is not a valid 
excuse. And of course, keep in mind that being on stage is much nicer. 
:-)

So, if you were successful with Cocoon, it's time for you to give 
something back to our community. It's stage time, come and speak up!

(and, of course, you're welcome to contact me privately about all this)
--
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com