Re: [collections] Preparing a 4.1 release

2015-05-24 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 05/24/2015 05:52 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 Why not just move to Java 7?

The reason to move to Java 6 is to add support for NavigableMap, which
unfortunately is missing right now.

Moving to Java 7 is not really necessary, the next logical move would be
to Java 8 imho.

In fact it would be worthwhile to have a separate collections component
that targets Java 8 but for this we are clearly lacking the manpower /
interest from the community.

Thomas

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RE: [collections] Preparing a 4.1 release

2015-05-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Why not just move to Java 7?
Gary 

 Original message 
From: Thomas Neidhart thomas.neidh...@gmail.com 
Date: 05/23/2015  02:17  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org 
Subject: [collections] Preparing a 4.1 release 

Hi,

in the next few weeks I will hopefully finish all open issues for an
upcoming 4.1 release.

Note: the release will also update the minimum required java version to 1.6.

Thomas

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Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues

2015-05-24 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Bruno P. Kinoshita 
brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br wrote:

 Hi Nial
 Do you know why your branch wasn't merged?


I dont really remember. I'm not sure whether all issues were resolved
(perhaps around tags doc generation). I sent the following email at the
start of 2010 - but I did some more work after that email:
* http://markmail.org/message/yveew57uparj3aab

I think the main reason though was that jelly was petty dormant and there
was no real interest.

Niall


 I've checked it out and a few tests are failing with Maven 3.2.5 and Java
 7  8. But I'd like to use your branch, try to fix any failing tests and
 merge back onto trunk.
 Created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-291 to track this
 issue.
 Thanks!Bruno


   From: Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com
  To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org
 Cc: Bruno P. Kinoshita brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br
  Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues

 On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:19 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think the first job is to ensure that the build works with Maven2/3,
  having tidied up the layout to conform with Maven2/3 conventions
  (src/test/java and src/main/java etc).
 

 I worked on a maven branch back in 2010 here:


 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jelly/branches/MAVEN-2-BRANCH

 Niall





  I see that a start has been made, but it looks like there is some way to
  go yet.
 
  On 10 May 2015 at 10:48, Bruno P. Kinoshita brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br
  wrote:
   Hi Paul
   if I remember well how the patches of Kohsuke landed, I remember I was
   unable to apply them because they seemed to be breaking some of the
   standard command-line jelly. I think I remember that a pluggeable
   context was discussed but, maybe, was not developed.
   Any kind of background on old issues is welcome! Before I start to work
  on any issue,
   I'll triage old issues, try to find some low hanging fruits, and then
  will start a one or two dayresearch on the mailing list to see if I can
  learn as much as possible before coding.
  I have not been able to save cycles to address more issues of Jelly and
   I know of some other folks, fellows in research in learning technology,
   that were, looking forward to getting more releases of jelly at the
 time
   I met them.
  
   I will work a little bit every weekend on triage issues, but will have
 a
  one or two week cyclein the middle of June and in July (lovely weather
 for
  coding; cold, cloudy, and raining a lot :)
  
  Hope it helps.
  I am happy to help you if I can towards making it better.
  
   It definitely helps. Very happy for having someone I can ask questions
  about some old issuesin [jelly] :)
   ThanksBruno
  
  
From: Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net
To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues
  
  
  
  
   On 1/05/15 10:22, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote:
   Since I joined Commons I've had a special interest in [jelly] due to
  its importance in the Jenkins project.
  
   Jenkins uses a patched version of [jelly]. Kohsuke, creator of
 Jenkins,
  is/was a Commons committer too, and submitted some issues. I intend to
  investigate if that'd be doable fix the issues to a point that Jenkins
 can
  drop the patched version, and [jelly] can be updated and released again.
  
   Hello Bruno,
  
   if I remember well how the patches of Kohsuke landed, I remember I was
   unable to apply them because they seemed to be breaking some of the
   standard command-line jelly. I think I remember that a pluggeable
   context was discussed but, maybe, was not developed.
  
   Thus, I can only encourage you to go ahead. I think it would be nice to
   have both worlds working well with a single code base.
  
   I have not been able to save cycles to address more issues of Jelly and
   I know of some other folks, fellows in research in learning technology,
   that were, looking forward to getting more releases of jelly at the
 time
   I met them.
  
   Hope it helps.
   I am happy to help you if I can towards making it better.
  
   paul
  
 






Re: [collections] Preparing a 4.1 release

2015-05-24 Thread Gary Gregory
That all makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

Gary

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Thomas Neidhart thomas.neidh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 05/24/2015 05:52 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
  Why not just move to Java 7?

 The reason to move to Java 6 is to add support for NavigableMap, which
 unfortunately is missing right now.

 Moving to Java 7 is not really necessary, the next logical move would be
 to Java 8 imho.

 In fact it would be worthwhile to have a separate collections component
 that targets Java 8 but for this we are clearly lacking the manpower /
 interest from the community.

 Thomas

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Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues

2015-05-24 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
Hi Nial
Do you know why your branch wasn't merged? I've checked it out and a few tests 
are failing with Maven 3.2.5 and Java 7  8. But I'd like to use your branch, 
try to fix any failing tests and merge back onto trunk.
Created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-291 to track this issue.
Thanks!Bruno

 
  From: Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com
 To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org 
Cc: Bruno P. Kinoshita brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br 
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues
   
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:19 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the first job is to ensure that the build works with Maven2/3,
 having tidied up the layout to conform with Maven2/3 conventions
 (src/test/java and src/main/java etc).


I worked on a maven branch back in 2010 here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jelly/branches/MAVEN-2-BRANCH

Niall





 I see that a start has been made, but it looks like there is some way to
 go yet.

 On 10 May 2015 at 10:48, Bruno P. Kinoshita brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br
 wrote:
  Hi Paul
  if I remember well how the patches of Kohsuke landed, I remember I was
  unable to apply them because they seemed to be breaking some of the
  standard command-line jelly. I think I remember that a pluggeable
  context was discussed but, maybe, was not developed.
  Any kind of background on old issues is welcome! Before I start to work
 on any issue,
  I'll triage old issues, try to find some low hanging fruits, and then
 will start a one or two dayresearch on the mailing list to see if I can
 learn as much as possible before coding.
 I have not been able to save cycles to address more issues of Jelly and
  I know of some other folks, fellows in research in learning technology,
  that were, looking forward to getting more releases of jelly at the time
  I met them.
 
  I will work a little bit every weekend on triage issues, but will have a
 one or two week cyclein the middle of June and in July (lovely weather for
 coding; cold, cloudy, and raining a lot :)
 
 Hope it helps.
 I am happy to help you if I can towards making it better.
 
  It definitely helps. Very happy for having someone I can ask questions
 about some old issuesin [jelly] :)
  ThanksBruno
 
 
       From: Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net
   To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org
   Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:33 AM
   Subject: Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues
 
 
 
 
  On 1/05/15 10:22, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote:
  Since I joined Commons I've had a special interest in [jelly] due to
 its importance in the Jenkins project.
 
  Jenkins uses a patched version of [jelly]. Kohsuke, creator of Jenkins,
 is/was a Commons committer too, and submitted some issues. I intend to
 investigate if that'd be doable fix the issues to a point that Jenkins can
 drop the patched version, and [jelly] can be updated and released again.
 
  Hello Bruno,
 
  if I remember well how the patches of Kohsuke landed, I remember I was
  unable to apply them because they seemed to be breaking some of the
  standard command-line jelly. I think I remember that a pluggeable
  context was discussed but, maybe, was not developed.
 
  Thus, I can only encourage you to go ahead. I think it would be nice to
  have both worlds working well with a single code base.
 
  I have not been able to save cycles to address more issues of Jelly and
  I know of some other folks, fellows in research in learning technology,
  that were, looking forward to getting more releases of jelly at the time
  I met them.
 
  Hope it helps.
  I am happy to help you if I can towards making it better.
 
  paul