Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-03 Thread Bruno Kinoshita
Hi,

I don't think we need to delete the account.

Outside of the USA, Twitter is still very active, I use it for arts
(Twitter and Instagram are the best for that IMO), several Python devs &
projects are there, my company (EU/Spain) uses it to for sharing jobs and
news, as well as many climate researchers I work with or follow are still
there. The interns I mentored from GSoC and Outreachy (Sri Lanka, Cameroon,
Nigeria) all seem to use it in their communities to share news over
Twitter, and in Brazil the Java news is shared mainly through Twitter and
Linkedin. Twitter has always been big in Japan, and at least in sports like
Sumo and Baseball, and for media and news it still seems very active.

If there is an option to mark it as inactive that may be an option IMO. But
deleting seems unnecessary as there are still communities active there, and
maybe (very long shot) it could improve someday. I agree it is hard to know
what's going to happen next, but I think we can wait and take action if
anything is announced (although I accept something could happen without
warning too).

No objection to removing it from our website though, +1.

And +1 that it would be great to automate it, but I think now you have to
pay for that option. And I had this bot you said, Gary:
https://twitter.com/asf_releases. I ran it for a few years to stay up to
date with the releases, and there is an INFRA ticket to donate it to ASF
(it pre-dates all the mess with Twitter/X/etc.), but the code is on GitHub:
https://github.com/tupilabs/asf_releases_aggregator

Bruno



On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 at 14:56, Gary Gregory  wrote:

> Too bad it's a hassle to log in, post, and log out manually. I know
> Twitter has an API but that makes the release process longer. It's
> almost like we need a bot that takes anything emailed to annouce@a.o,
> extracts the subject, and posts that to Twitter.
>
> Gary
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 3:54 PM sebb  wrote:
> >
> > Indeed, well remembered!
> >
> > There is a file with the password.
> >
> > The intro to the file says:
> >
> > "Apache Commons has a twitter account that can be used
> > to post news about community activity, such as new
> > releases and so on."
> >
> > The last post was May 2019, and the one before Sep 2018, so it is not
> > exactly busy.
> > As such, I don't think it is worth promoting.
> > Whether it should be closed is another matter.
> >
> > Sebb
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:19, Bruno Kinoshita 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the password is in svn? In the pmc or private folder if I
> recall
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, 12:35 Gary Gregory, 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can,
> maybe
> > > > it's a marketing/PR account?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> > > > > links to it should be dropped.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that it is not visible without a login.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sebb
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Too bad it's a hassle to log in, post, and log out manually. I know
Twitter has an API but that makes the release process longer. It's
almost like we need a bot that takes anything emailed to annouce@a.o,
extracts the subject, and posts that to Twitter.

Gary

On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 3:54 PM sebb  wrote:
>
> Indeed, well remembered!
>
> There is a file with the password.
>
> The intro to the file says:
>
> "Apache Commons has a twitter account that can be used
> to post news about community activity, such as new
> releases and so on."
>
> The last post was May 2019, and the one before Sep 2018, so it is not
> exactly busy.
> As such, I don't think it is worth promoting.
> Whether it should be closed is another matter.
>
> Sebb
>
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:19, Bruno Kinoshita  wrote:
> >
> > I think the password is in svn? In the pmc or private folder if I recall
> > correctly.
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, 12:35 Gary Gregory,  wrote:
> >
> > > I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can, maybe
> > > it's a marketing/PR account?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:
> > >
> > > > AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> > > > links to it should be dropped.
> > > >
> > > > Note that it is not visible without a login.
> > > >
> > > > Sebb
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
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Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-03 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
Given the ongoing current and declining state of Twitter (to be more
polite than I should be) I vote +1 on simply deleting the entire
account. It's no longer a useful means of communicating with Java
developers.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Space Karen decides to disable,
deactivate, and/or recycle inactive and/or non-paid accounts in the
near future. He's been leaning in that direction, is getting desperate
for revenue, and has a history of impulsive, irrational decision
making. Better to get out now before he does something even more
problematic like auctioning off accounts to the highest bidding
spammer.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 8:53 PM sebb  wrote:
>
> Indeed, well remembered!
>
> There is a file with the password.
>
> The intro to the file says:
>
> "Apache Commons has a twitter account that can be used
> to post news about community activity, such as new
> releases and so on."
>
> The last post was May 2019, and the one before Sep 2018, so it is not
> exactly busy.
> As such, I don't think it is worth promoting.
> Whether it should be closed is another matter.
>
> Sebb
>
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:19, Bruno Kinoshita  wrote:
> >
> > I think the password is in svn? In the pmc or private folder if I recall
> > correctly.
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, 12:35 Gary Gregory,  wrote:
> >
> > > I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can, maybe
> > > it's a marketing/PR account?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:
> > >
> > > > AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> > > > links to it should be dropped.
> > > >
> > > > Note that it is not visible without a login.
> > > >
> > > > Sebb
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
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-- 
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Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-02 Thread sebb
Indeed, well remembered!

There is a file with the password.

The intro to the file says:

"Apache Commons has a twitter account that can be used
to post news about community activity, such as new
releases and so on."

The last post was May 2019, and the one before Sep 2018, so it is not
exactly busy.
As such, I don't think it is worth promoting.
Whether it should be closed is another matter.

Sebb

On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:19, Bruno Kinoshita  wrote:
>
> I think the password is in svn? In the pmc or private folder if I recall
> correctly.
>
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, 12:35 Gary Gregory,  wrote:
>
> > I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can, maybe
> > it's a marketing/PR account?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:
> >
> > > AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> > > links to it should be dropped.
> > >
> > > Note that it is not visible without a login.
> > >
> > > Sebb
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >

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Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-02 Thread Bruno Kinoshita
I think the password is in svn? In the pmc or private folder if I recall
correctly.

On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, 12:35 Gary Gregory,  wrote:

> I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can, maybe
> it's a marketing/PR account?
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:
>
> > AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> > links to it should be dropped.
> >
> > Note that it is not visible without a login.
> >
> > Sebb
> >
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> >
> >
>


Re: Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-12-02 Thread Gary Gregory
I can't recall how we (PMC) access that account or if we even can, maybe
it's a marketing/PR account?

Gary

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 5:53 PM sebb  wrote:

> AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
> links to it should be dropped.
>
> Note that it is not visible without a login.
>
> Sebb
>
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Is https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons still used?

2023-11-30 Thread sebb
AFAICT https://twitter.com/ApacheCommons is no longer active, and
links to it should be dropped.

Note that it is not visible without a login.

Sebb

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