Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread sebb
On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 16:11, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>
> It sounds to me like the Apache wide news blog is the best place or the
> site.

Or both:
- ASF news could have a general blog entry that draws attention to the feature
- Commons site would be used for more specific entries.

Posting on the ASF news blog alone is unlikely to be noticed by
existing Commons users.

> A new blog no one's seen before would not achieve that. Once we
> publish it, it's up to us to promote it our socials.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 10:32 AM Claude Warren  wrote:
>
> > I was really looking for a way to reach out to developers that do not know
> > that there is a Bloom filter implementation and may not know how they could
> > use one.  Once someone knows they'll look in the project documentation and
> > or javadoc (so I have no issue putting the info there as well).
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:43 PM Gary Gregory 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How about putting this in the Javadoc at the package level in
> > > package-info.java?
> > >
> > > Closer to the code is more likely to be maintained than out in the wild
> > on
> > > a blog.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 AM Gilles Sadowski 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Le ven. 19 avr. 2024 à 13:05, Gary Gregory  a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there are three places today this type of information can
> > live
> > > > > within Apache:
> > > > >
> > > > > - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> > > > > - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> > > > > - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)
> > > >
> > > > I beg to differ.
> > > > From what I understand, this would be much more useful in a
> > > > documentation section of the component (as a practical way to
> > > > learn how to use non-trivial functionality implemented there).
> > > >
> > > > [If the primary purpose is personal advertisement, there is no
> > > > real point discussing it on the Commons "dev" ML.]
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Gilles
> > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
It sounds to me like the Apache wide news blog is the best place or the
site. A new blog no one's seen before would not achieve that. Once we
publish it, it's up to us to promote it our socials.

Gary

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 10:32 AM Claude Warren  wrote:

> I was really looking for a way to reach out to developers that do not know
> that there is a Bloom filter implementation and may not know how they could
> use one.  Once someone knows they'll look in the project documentation and
> or javadoc (so I have no issue putting the info there as well).
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:43 PM Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
>
> > How about putting this in the Javadoc at the package level in
> > package-info.java?
> >
> > Closer to the code is more likely to be maintained than out in the wild
> on
> > a blog.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 AM Gilles Sadowski 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Le ven. 19 avr. 2024 à 13:05, Gary Gregory  a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > I think there are three places today this type of information can
> live
> > > > within Apache:
> > > >
> > > > - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> > > > - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> > > > - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)
> > >
> > > I beg to differ.
> > > From what I understand, this would be much more useful in a
> > > documentation section of the component (as a practical way to
> > > learn how to use non-trivial functionality implemented there).
> > >
> > > [If the primary purpose is personal advertisement, there is no
> > > real point discussing it on the Commons "dev" ML.]
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gilles
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [...]
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> > >
> >
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Claude Warren
I was really looking for a way to reach out to developers that do not know
that there is a Bloom filter implementation and may not know how they could
use one.  Once someone knows they'll look in the project documentation and
or javadoc (so I have no issue putting the info there as well).

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:43 PM Gary Gregory  wrote:

> How about putting this in the Javadoc at the package level in
> package-info.java?
>
> Closer to the code is more likely to be maintained than out in the wild on
> a blog.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 AM Gilles Sadowski 
> wrote:
>
> > Le ven. 19 avr. 2024 à 13:05, Gary Gregory  a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > I think there are three places today this type of information can live
> > > within Apache:
> > >
> > > - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> > > - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> > > - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)
> >
> > I beg to differ.
> > From what I understand, this would be much more useful in a
> > documentation section of the component (as a practical way to
> > learn how to use non-trivial functionality implemented there).
> >
> > [If the primary purpose is personal advertisement, there is no
> > real point discussing it on the Commons "dev" ML.]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
> > >
> > > [...]
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> >
> >
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
How about putting this in the Javadoc at the package level in
package-info.java?

Closer to the code is more likely to be maintained than out in the wild on
a blog.

Gary

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 AM Gilles Sadowski  wrote:

> Le ven. 19 avr. 2024 à 13:05, Gary Gregory  a
> écrit :
> >
> > I think there are three places today this type of information can live
> > within Apache:
> >
> > - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> > - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> > - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)
>
> I beg to differ.
> From what I understand, this would be much more useful in a
> documentation section of the component (as a practical way to
> learn how to use non-trivial functionality implemented there).
>
> [If the primary purpose is personal advertisement, there is no
> real point discussing it on the Commons "dev" ML.]
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
> >
> > [...]
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le ven. 19 avr. 2024 à 13:05, Gary Gregory  a écrit :
>
> I think there are three places today this type of information can live
> within Apache:
>
> - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)

I beg to differ.
>From what I understand, this would be much more useful in a
documentation section of the component (as a practical way to
learn how to use non-trivial functionality implemented there).

[If the primary purpose is personal advertisement, there is no
real point discussing it on the Commons "dev" ML.]

Regards,
Gilles

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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Bruno,

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 13:30, Bruno Kinoshita  wrote:
> Maybe an option would be to just have it under
> https://commons.apache.org/blog/, as part of the project website in Git,
> published with the site manually/ASF CRM/etc? I think that way INFRA would
> not have to be involved?

The Logging Services blog[1] uses Jekyll under the hood. This is
already supported by INFRA through an `.asf.yaml` configuration
option[2].

Piotr

[1] https://logging.apache.org/blog/
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-asfyaml/blob/main/README.md#jekyll_cms

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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Bruno Kinoshita
>
> Is there another
> Apache project that has its own blog but does not fit in the list above?



   - https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage.html
   - https://arrow.apache.org/blog/
   - https://spark.apache.org/news/ (mostly about releases though)
   - https://airflow.apache.org/blog/
   - https://kafka.apache.org/blog
   - ...

Maybe an option would be to just have it under
https://commons.apache.org/blog/, as part of the project website in Git,
published with the site manually/ASF CRM/etc? I think that way INFRA would
not have to be involved?

Cheers

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 13:05, Gary Gregory  wrote:

> I think there are three places today this type of information can live
> within Apache:
>
> - the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
> - the project wiki (which automatically is live)
> - https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)
>
> A new blog (whatever that means using whatever stack) would likely require
> involvement from infra which is already overwhelmed. Is there another
> Apache project that has its own blog but does not fit in the list above?
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:42 AM Claude Warren  wrote:
>
> > I have what is currently a series of 4 blogs that introduce the new Bloom
> > filter implementations and framework in Commons Collections.  I have a
> > couple more in mind, they discuss what Bloom filters are and how the
> > Commons Collections implements them, provides extension points, and how
> to
> > implement some exotic flavors.  In fact I have an implementation for a
> > Kafka PID tracking problem (KIP-936) that uses layered Bloom filters to
> > track PIDs in a time window while handling bursty traffic and not
> exceeding
> > the desired false positive rate.
> >
> > So these are rather technical posts, they could be transformed into pages
> > in documentation, but what I really want to do is get attention on the
> tool
> > from developers of other projects, to let them know the tools exist.  I
> > think that if the ASF had a technical blog we could be promoting our
> > projects to the wider development world.  I can think of other projects
> > that could have rather interesting blogs.  For example, a discussion of
> > Cassandra's new Accord consensus protocol could help other ASF projects
> > working on consensus issues.  Kafka too has a consensus protocol they are
> > working on.
> >
> > Is there any interest in a technical blog that focus on the solutions to
> > technical problems within a project rather than the higher level
> technical
> > problems solved by the project.  So not that Cassandra has a solution to
> a
> > distributed database problem, but Cassandra solved the consensus problem
> > this way; not Kafka solves the data streaming problem, but Kafka solved
> the
> > consensus problem this way. (OK, too much consensus, but you see what I
> > mean).
> >
> > Claude
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:07 PM Gary Gregory 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well, we already have https://news.apache.org/
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 1:50 PM Elric V  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 16/04/2024 13:08, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > > > > There is an Apache wide blog here:
> > > > > https://news.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > There used to be a planet.apache.org which aggregated
> > committer/project
> > > > blogs, but that seems to be broken.
> > > >
> > > > Would there be any interets in an aggregated ASF-project wide blog?
> > > > Where contributors from all projects could submit posts? Would be a
> > > > great way to keep up to do date, as well as learn about other ASF
> > > projects.
> > > >
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> >
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
I think there are three places today this type of information can live
within Apache:

- the component website (which we can publish whenever we want)
- the project wiki (which automatically is live)
- https://news.apache.org/ (not sure how one posts there)

A new blog (whatever that means using whatever stack) would likely require
involvement from infra which is already overwhelmed. Is there another
Apache project that has its own blog but does not fit in the list above?

Gary

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:42 AM Claude Warren  wrote:

> I have what is currently a series of 4 blogs that introduce the new Bloom
> filter implementations and framework in Commons Collections.  I have a
> couple more in mind, they discuss what Bloom filters are and how the
> Commons Collections implements them, provides extension points, and how to
> implement some exotic flavors.  In fact I have an implementation for a
> Kafka PID tracking problem (KIP-936) that uses layered Bloom filters to
> track PIDs in a time window while handling bursty traffic and not exceeding
> the desired false positive rate.
>
> So these are rather technical posts, they could be transformed into pages
> in documentation, but what I really want to do is get attention on the tool
> from developers of other projects, to let them know the tools exist.  I
> think that if the ASF had a technical blog we could be promoting our
> projects to the wider development world.  I can think of other projects
> that could have rather interesting blogs.  For example, a discussion of
> Cassandra's new Accord consensus protocol could help other ASF projects
> working on consensus issues.  Kafka too has a consensus protocol they are
> working on.
>
> Is there any interest in a technical blog that focus on the solutions to
> technical problems within a project rather than the higher level technical
> problems solved by the project.  So not that Cassandra has a solution to a
> distributed database problem, but Cassandra solved the consensus problem
> this way; not Kafka solves the data streaming problem, but Kafka solved the
> consensus problem this way. (OK, too much consensus, but you see what I
> mean).
>
> Claude
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:07 PM Gary Gregory 
> wrote:
>
> > Well, we already have https://news.apache.org/
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 1:50 PM Elric V  wrote:
> >
> > > On 16/04/2024 13:08, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > > > There is an Apache wide blog here:
> > > > https://news.apache.org/
> > >
> > > There used to be a planet.apache.org which aggregated
> committer/project
> > > blogs, but that seems to be broken.
> > >
> > > Would there be any interets in an aggregated ASF-project wide blog?
> > > Where contributors from all projects could submit posts? Would be a
> > > great way to keep up to do date, as well as learn about other ASF
> > projects.
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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>


Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-19 Thread Claude Warren
I have what is currently a series of 4 blogs that introduce the new Bloom
filter implementations and framework in Commons Collections.  I have a
couple more in mind, they discuss what Bloom filters are and how the
Commons Collections implements them, provides extension points, and how to
implement some exotic flavors.  In fact I have an implementation for a
Kafka PID tracking problem (KIP-936) that uses layered Bloom filters to
track PIDs in a time window while handling bursty traffic and not exceeding
the desired false positive rate.

So these are rather technical posts, they could be transformed into pages
in documentation, but what I really want to do is get attention on the tool
from developers of other projects, to let them know the tools exist.  I
think that if the ASF had a technical blog we could be promoting our
projects to the wider development world.  I can think of other projects
that could have rather interesting blogs.  For example, a discussion of
Cassandra's new Accord consensus protocol could help other ASF projects
working on consensus issues.  Kafka too has a consensus protocol they are
working on.

Is there any interest in a technical blog that focus on the solutions to
technical problems within a project rather than the higher level technical
problems solved by the project.  So not that Cassandra has a solution to a
distributed database problem, but Cassandra solved the consensus problem
this way; not Kafka solves the data streaming problem, but Kafka solved the
consensus problem this way. (OK, too much consensus, but you see what I
mean).

Claude



On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:07 PM Gary Gregory  wrote:

> Well, we already have https://news.apache.org/
>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 1:50 PM Elric V  wrote:
>
> > On 16/04/2024 13:08, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > > There is an Apache wide blog here:
> > > https://news.apache.org/
> >
> > There used to be a planet.apache.org which aggregated committer/project
> > blogs, but that seems to be broken.
> >
> > Would there be any interets in an aggregated ASF-project wide blog?
> > Where contributors from all projects could submit posts? Would be a
> > great way to keep up to do date, as well as learn about other ASF
> projects.
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
> >
> >
>


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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-17 Thread Gary Gregory
Well, we already have https://news.apache.org/

Gary

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 1:50 PM Elric V  wrote:

> On 16/04/2024 13:08, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > There is an Apache wide blog here:
> > https://news.apache.org/
>
> There used to be a planet.apache.org which aggregated committer/project
> blogs, but that seems to be broken.
>
> Would there be any interets in an aggregated ASF-project wide blog?
> Where contributors from all projects could submit posts? Would be a
> great way to keep up to do date, as well as learn about other ASF projects.
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org
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>


Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-17 Thread Elric V

On 16/04/2024 13:08, Gary Gregory wrote:

There is an Apache wide blog here:
https://news.apache.org/


There used to be a planet.apache.org which aggregated committer/project 
blogs, but that seems to be broken.


Would there be any interets in an aggregated ASF-project wide blog? 
Where contributors from all projects could submit posts? Would be a 
great way to keep up to do date, as well as learn about other ASF projects.



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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le mar. 16 avr. 2024 à 13:09, Gary Gregory  a écrit :
>
> There is an Apache wide blog here:
> https://news.apache.org/
>
> We have a wiki here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMMONS/FrontPage

Most links lead to pages that are badly out-of-date:
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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-16 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi.

Le mar. 16 avr. 2024 à 12:45, Bruno Kinoshita
 a écrit :
>
> I do not remember ever reading a blog post from Commons. The other ASF
> projects where I am active (opennlp/jena) also do not have one. Arrow has
> one that seems to be used [1], but I am not sure if others would adopt it.
> I would be keen to write something about Imaging if we had a blog post.

How about "userguide" or "tutorial" sections, like e.g. in "Commons
Geometry"[1][2]?

Regards,
Gilles

[1] https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-geometry/userguide/index.html
[2] https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-geometry/tutorials/teapot.html

>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://arrow.apache.org/blog/
>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 09:06, Claude Warren  wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if there is a blog dedicated to commons?  I have several
> > blog posts about using the new Bloom filters in collections 4.5 and am
> > looking for a place to publish.
> >
> > Claude

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Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-16 Thread Gary Gregory
There is an Apache wide blog here:
https://news.apache.org/

We have a wiki here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMMONS/FrontPage

Gary

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 6:45 AM Bruno Kinoshita 
wrote:

> I do not remember ever reading a blog post from Commons. The other ASF
> projects where I am active (opennlp/jena) also do not have one. Arrow has
> one that seems to be used [1], but I am not sure if others would adopt it.
> I would be keen to write something about Imaging if we had a blog post.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://arrow.apache.org/blog/
>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 09:06, Claude Warren  wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if there is a blog dedicated to commons?  I have several
> > blog posts about using the new Bloom filters in collections 4.5 and am
> > looking for a place to publish.
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > --
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren
> >
>


Re: Is there a blog for commons?

2024-04-16 Thread Bruno Kinoshita
I do not remember ever reading a blog post from Commons. The other ASF
projects where I am active (opennlp/jena) also do not have one. Arrow has
one that seems to be used [1], but I am not sure if others would adopt it.
I would be keen to write something about Imaging if we had a blog post.

Cheers

[1] https://arrow.apache.org/blog/

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 09:06, Claude Warren  wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a blog dedicated to commons?  I have several
> blog posts about using the new Bloom filters in collections 4.5 and am
> looking for a place to publish.
>
> Claude
>
> --
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren
>