For sure, onboarding of newcomers is important. Same goes for committer relations. But how about contributor relations, mediation and such?
Regards, Pierre Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi ComDev PMC and other interested folks, > > From time to time, I hear someone suggest ComDev or its lists as a > potential target for a foundation-wide activity that affects current > committers. However, I've always thought of ComDev as being focused on > "those that are not here yet", rather than those that are - as the monthly > report starts, "The Community Development PMC is responsible for helping > people become involved with Apache projects." > > Some roughly related discussion was held in in April 2013 [1] at Ross' > initiation. However, it's not clear to me whether there was any decision > taken in the end. If I look over the archives since, it's related to > mentoring, GSoC, small events and ApacheCon, with one exception being a > large release cadence discussion - which seems to confirm my expectation. > The current composition of the PMC also seems to reflect people with that > sort of expertise. > > Possibly it's just my personal bugbear, but my concern with sending > traffic to a list that doesn't feel empowered to act on it is that it often > ends up in discussion with very little decision making. > > In addition to this list, ComDev stewards commun...@apache.org, but that > is much less frequently used now. > > I feel like the ASF is seeing a pattern where we need something like > "committer relations", that can focus on providing resources and assistance > to any committer, while not interfering with individual project boundaries. > I'm willing to take up that initiative with others interested - but also > quite happy to acknowledge it might be more overhead than value if existing > groups can address that need. The first thing I wanted to do was clarify > whether ComDev already feels like it has this responsibility in whole or > part. > > So, my questions are: > - have I read ComDev's scope correctly, or should it be expanded to > include resources for current committers? > - regardless of scope, how does the PMC feel about its lists being used to > reach out to committers for discussion or updates? > - what does the PMC see as the current purpose of commun...@apache.org vs > this list? > > Thanks for indulging me :) > > Cheers, > Brett > > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201304.mbox/%3CCAKQbXgDL55M9sBXigm8Wmwgk7K0hVGtWEOrCTVWfQ9EgthG%2B3A%40mail.gmail.com%3E
