Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Roman Shaposhnik 
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
> need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope to
> be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
> transparency around the selection process.

Would a wiki page to track it all be a reasonable solution?

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread David Nalley 
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> Agreed: How we got here is nice; where we are going (and
> where we *should* be going) is better :)
>

Yes!

RE: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
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email address, if that is difficult the help message you get in response will 
guide you)

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From: Mark Brodsky [mailto:rktsm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

Rich,

How can I unsubscribe from this DL? I've tried sending mail to 
dev-unsubscr...@apache.org with no luck.

thx
Mark

On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> 
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as 
>> many as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt 
>> etc...do it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) 
>> commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as 
> possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people 
> reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
> 
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the 
> message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the 
> world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old 
> memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are 
> now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
> 
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from 
> that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired 
> in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
> 
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not 
> as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
> 
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders 
> and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might 
> be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most 
> of them are reachable.
> 
> --Rich
> 
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - 
> @apachecon
>

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Brodsky 
Rich,

How can I unsubscribe from this DL? I’ve tried sending mail to 
dev-unsubscr...@apache.org with no luck.

thx
Mark

On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> 
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as 
> possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people 
> reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
> 
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the 
> message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the 
> world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old 
> memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are 
> now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
> 
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from 
> that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired 
> in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
> 
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not 
> as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
> 
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders 
> and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might 
> be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most 
> of them are reachable.
> 
> --Rich
> 
> -- 
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Jim Jagielski 
Agreed: How we got here is nice; where we are going (and
where we *should* be going) is better :)

On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> 
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as 
> possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people 
> reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
> 
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the 
> message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the 
> world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old 
> memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are 
> now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
> 
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from 
> that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired 
> in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
> 
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not 
> as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
> 
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders 
> and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might 
> be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most 
> of them are reachable.
> 
> --Rich
> 
> -- 
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>

RE: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
As I mentioned to you in private I can reach out to UK government CTO if you 
want an eGovernment replacement (would likely result in the same outcome as 
going to Wardley)

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From: jan i
Sent: ‎9/‎24/‎2014 8:06 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

On 24 September 2014 16:46, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> One idea: I met Bror Salmelin (
> http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/bror-salmelin)
> from OISPG (https://sites.google.com/site/openinnovationplatform/)
> a few years ago at an open source conference in Malta and
> have been invited to speak at some confs regarding
> open innovation and open source. He's a great guy, and
> is a good speaker.
>

He would be a real good choice, I dont know how he is with a big group, but
in smaller groups he is brilliant.

rgds
jan I.


>
> I'd be happy to make intros if desired.
>
> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> > One of our keynotes for ApacheCon Budapest has been withdrawn, and we
> need to come up with a replacement, fairly quickly.
> >
> > I wanted to have a bunch of eyes on the options that have been already
> suggested to me. If you have a *great* suggestion, and contact info, please
> speak up. If it's just a random suggestion and you don't have a personal
> contact, please save it for next year, as we need to move quickly on this.
> >
> > EU-based speakers are preferred for reasons of logistics.
> >
> > So, here's what's been suggested so far:
> >
> > Dirk-Willem suggests: can prolly dig out a BBC one from the woman who is
> the key brain/architect behind iplayer and olympics if needed - or
> something from the BBC archive folks.
> >
> > Sebastien suggests: you might reach out to @swardley who has connection
> with UK gov and their adoption of open source open standards. It does not
> seem that the intent was to discuss open source in e-governement, but It
> would be an interesting subject and slightly less politically tainted.
> >
> > Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has a talk schedule about why we need to preach
> the gospel of Apache more than we're doing now, and this was initially
> submitted as a keynote.
> >
> > I was sure I had more of them, but I'm not able to find them right now
> in the brief break between meetings, so please speak up if you've suggested
> something and I've overlooked it.
> >
> > Of these listed, Joe's is the only one that we know for certain that we
> have already in the can. The others would require more legwork, and
> probably more cost.
> >
> > While the decision is, in the end, on me, I very much value your input
> to help me make the decision. I'd like to have something tentatively
> decided by the end of the week, and messages sent out to the potential
> speakers in question.
> >
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
>
>

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread jan i 
On 24 September 2014 17:11, Rich Bowen  wrote:

>
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more)
>> commentators.
>>
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them
> as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of
> people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
>
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the
> message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in
> the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just
> old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that
> we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
>
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract
> from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is
> mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
>
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But
> not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
>
I agree on your POWalways good to see a topic from multiple angles, I
focussed to much on our long history.


>
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders
> and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might
> be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but
> most of them are reachable.

Not to forget how we could such videoclips for marketing "now - then".

rgds
jan i.


>
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen 


On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:

Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of 
them as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel 
session of people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.


ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the 
message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things 
in the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture 
than just old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the 
message is that we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting 
from there to here.


I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract 
from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF 
is mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our 
messaging.


Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But 
not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.


Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the 
founders and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the 
keynote might be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find 
these days, but most of them are reachable.


--Rich

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread jan i 
On 24 September 2014 16:46, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> One idea: I met Bror Salmelin (
> http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/bror-salmelin)
> from OISPG (https://sites.google.com/site/openinnovationplatform/)
> a few years ago at an open source conference in Malta and
> have been invited to speak at some confs regarding
> open innovation and open source. He's a great guy, and
> is a good speaker.
>

He would be a real good choice, I dont know how he is with a big group, but
in smaller groups he is brilliant.

rgds
jan I.


>
> I'd be happy to make intros if desired.
>
> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> > One of our keynotes for ApacheCon Budapest has been withdrawn, and we
> need to come up with a replacement, fairly quickly.
> >
> > I wanted to have a bunch of eyes on the options that have been already
> suggested to me. If you have a *great* suggestion, and contact info, please
> speak up. If it's just a random suggestion and you don't have a personal
> contact, please save it for next year, as we need to move quickly on this.
> >
> > EU-based speakers are preferred for reasons of logistics.
> >
> > So, here's what's been suggested so far:
> >
> > Dirk-Willem suggests: can prolly dig out a BBC one from the woman who is
> the key brain/architect behind iplayer and olympics if needed - or
> something from the BBC archive folks.
> >
> > Sebastien suggests: you might reach out to @swardley who has connection
> with UK gov and their adoption of open source open standards. It does not
> seem that the intent was to discuss open source in e-governement, but It
> would be an interesting subject and slightly less politically tainted.
> >
> > Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has a talk schedule about why we need to preach
> the gospel of Apache more than we're doing now, and this was initially
> submitted as a keynote.
> >
> > I was sure I had more of them, but I'm not able to find them right now
> in the brief break between meetings, so please speak up if you've suggested
> something and I've overlooked it.
> >
> > Of these listed, Joe's is the only one that we know for certain that we
> have already in the can. The others would require more legwork, and
> probably more cost.
> >
> > While the decision is, in the end, on me, I very much value your input
> to help me make the decision. I'd like to have something tentatively
> decided by the end of the week, and messages sent out to the potential
> speakers in question.
> >
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
>
>

Re: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread jan i 
On 24 September 2014 16:08, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> One of our keynotes for ApacheCon Budapest has been withdrawn, and we need
> to come up with a replacement, fairly quickly.
>
> I wanted to have a bunch of eyes on the options that have been already
> suggested to me. If you have a *great* suggestion, and contact info, please
> speak up. If it's just a random suggestion and you don't have a personal
> contact, please save it for next year, as we need to move quickly on this.
>
> EU-based speakers are preferred for reasons of logistics.
>
> So, here's what's been suggested so far:
>
> Dirk-Willem suggests: can prolly dig out a BBC one from the woman who is
> the key brain/architect behind iplayer and olympics if needed - or
> something from the BBC archive folks.
>
Watch out, UK is in many aspect not europe...and if the angle is to much
"uk" then it will not be well received in my opinion.


>
> Sebastien suggests: you might reach out to @swardley who has connection
> with UK gov and their adoption of open source open standards. It does not
> seem that the intent was to discuss open source in e-governement, but It
> would be an interesting subject and slightly less politically tainted.
>
> Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has a talk schedule about why we need to preach
> the gospel of Apache more than we're doing now, and this was initially
> submitted as a keynote

+1

> .
>
> I was sure I had more of them, but I'm not able to find them right now in
> the brief break between meetings, so please speak up if you've suggested
> something and I've overlooked it.
>
> Of these listed, Joe's is the only one that we know for certain that we
> have already in the can. The others would require more legwork, and
> probably more cost.
>
> While the decision is, in the end, on me, I very much value your input to
> help me make the decision. I'd like to have something tentatively decided
> by the end of the week, and messages sent out to the potential speakers in
> question.
>
How about pursuading one of the "old" guys, to give a talk about Apache
growth in europe. We seem to be very disproportional represented within
europe, I am sure a couple of charts and history could make a super keynote.

rgds
jan I.


>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread jan i 
On 24 September 2014 15:00, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> I'm starting to look for keynotes for ApacheCon Austin. I have one locked
> in already, and wanted to let people here know about it.
>
> ApacheCon Austin happens to take place 20 years to the week from the very
> first public release of the Apache Web Server that started all of this.
> Brian Behlendorf will be giving a keynote in Austin talking about the
> lessons of 20 years, and about the progress we've made since then.
>
Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.

The history from then to now it also excitingbut I would to do a time
travel, and experience the early start of ASF, the ideals, the concerns.

rgds
jan I.


>
> I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
> need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope
> to be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
> transparency around the selection process.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread Jim Jagielski 
One idea: I met Bror Salmelin 
(http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/bror-salmelin)
from OISPG (https://sites.google.com/site/openinnovationplatform/)
a few years ago at an open source conference in Malta and
have been invited to speak at some confs regarding
open innovation and open source. He's a great guy, and
is a good speaker.

I'd be happy to make intros if desired.

On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> One of our keynotes for ApacheCon Budapest has been withdrawn, and we need to 
> come up with a replacement, fairly quickly.
> 
> I wanted to have a bunch of eyes on the options that have been already 
> suggested to me. If you have a *great* suggestion, and contact info, please 
> speak up. If it's just a random suggestion and you don't have a personal 
> contact, please save it for next year, as we need to move quickly on this.
> 
> EU-based speakers are preferred for reasons of logistics.
> 
> So, here's what's been suggested so far:
> 
> Dirk-Willem suggests: can prolly dig out a BBC one from the woman who is the 
> key brain/architect behind iplayer and olympics if needed - or something from 
> the BBC archive folks.
> 
> Sebastien suggests: you might reach out to @swardley who has connection with 
> UK gov and their adoption of open source open standards. It does not seem 
> that the intent was to discuss open source in e-governement, but It would be 
> an interesting subject and slightly less politically tainted.
> 
> Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has a talk schedule about why we need to preach the 
> gospel of Apache more than we're doing now, and this was initially submitted 
> as a keynote.
> 
> I was sure I had more of them, but I'm not able to find them right now in the 
> brief break between meetings, so please speak up if you've suggested 
> something and I've overlooked it.
> 
> Of these listed, Joe's is the only one that we know for certain that we have 
> already in the can. The others would require more legwork, and probably more 
> cost.
> 
> While the decision is, in the end, on me, I very much value your input to 
> help me make the decision. I'd like to have something tentatively decided by 
> the end of the week, and messages sent out to the potential speakers in 
> question.
> 
> -- 
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>

[ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen 
One of our keynotes for ApacheCon Budapest has been withdrawn, and we 
need to come up with a replacement, fairly quickly.


I wanted to have a bunch of eyes on the options that have been already 
suggested to me. If you have a *great* suggestion, and contact info, 
please speak up. If it's just a random suggestion and you don't have a 
personal contact, please save it for next year, as we need to move 
quickly on this.


EU-based speakers are preferred for reasons of logistics.

So, here's what's been suggested so far:

Dirk-Willem suggests: can prolly dig out a BBC one from the woman who is 
the key brain/architect behind iplayer and olympics if needed - or 
something from the BBC archive folks.


Sebastien suggests: you might reach out to @swardley who has connection 
with UK gov and their adoption of open source open standards. It does 
not seem that the intent was to discuss open source in e-governement, 
but It would be an interesting subject and slightly less politically 
tainted.


Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has a talk schedule about why we need to preach 
the gospel of Apache more than we're doing now, and this was initially 
submitted as a keynote.


I was sure I had more of them, but I'm not able to find them right now 
in the brief break between meetings, so please speak up if you've 
suggested something and I've overlooked it.


Of these listed, Joe's is the only one that we know for certain that we 
have already in the can. The others would require more legwork, and 
probably more cost.


While the decision is, in the end, on me, I very much value your input 
to help me make the decision. I'd like to have something tentatively 
decided by the end of the week, and messages sent out to the potential 
speakers in question.


--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen 
I'm starting to look for keynotes for ApacheCon Austin. I have one 
locked in already, and wanted to let people here know about it.


ApacheCon Austin happens to take place 20 years to the week from the 
very first public release of the Apache Web Server that started all of 
this. Brian Behlendorf will be giving a keynote in Austin talking about 
the lessons of 20 years, and about the progress we've made since then.


I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I 
need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I 
hope to be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have 
some transparency around the selection process.


--Rich

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: Tweets for ApacheCon (was Re: ApacheCon - How you can help)

2014-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen 


On 09/23/2014 06:03 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:

At #ApacheCon in Budapest, @douglascarswell will keynote on "iDemocracy
and Political Reform"http://sched.co/1m5CFZl  Nov. 17-21!

FYI, please remove this one from your list. We'll be replacing that keynote.

Thanks.

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon