Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Kay Schenk


On 11/18/2014 09:46 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Christopher  wrote:
> 
>> At first glance, a big +1. This is one of the better Code of Conduct
>> policies that I've seen.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>>
>>> As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
>>> least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct,
>> coming
>>> soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten about it.
>>>
>>> It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided, unilaterally,
>>> that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask for forgiveness
>>> rather than permission.
>>>
>>> I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
>>> which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
>>> communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
>>> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
>>>
>>> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
>>> than expecting that someone else would.
>>>
>>> So, without further ado: http://www.apache.org/
>>> foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>>
>>> Patches welcome.
>>
> 
> I'd like a section like the following (Debian Code of Conduct) to be added:
> 
> "Serious or persistent offenders will be temporarily or permanently
> banned from communicating through Debian's systems. Complaints should be
> made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian communication
> forum in question. To find contact information for these administrators,
> please see [the page on Debian's organizational
> structure](https://www.debian.org/intro/organization)"
> 
> In absence of such a notice people might not understand what happen if
> they do not play by the rules.
> 
> Roberto
> 

Super that we now have an ASF-wide policy on this!

and +1 on Roberto's suggestion.

> 
> 
> 
>>>
>>> I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
>>> document, to speak up here, so that:
>>>
>>> * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
>>> * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
>>> projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
>>>
>>> Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
>> initiative
>>> without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off, for many,
>>> many years.
>>>
>>> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
-
MzK

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 to a dancing star."
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Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Published. Thanks!

Uli

On 2014-11-18 21:37, Rob Vesse wrote:
> Great work Rich
> 
> The community.apache.org site has a specific question on this in the
> Newbie FAQ (http://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html) which just points
> to the wiki currently.  I have made an edit that points to the newly
> published document but I don't have write permissions to publish the
> updated site through the CMS.
> 
> If someone with appropriate karma could review (and tweak if necessary) my
> changes and publish them that would be much appreciated
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 18/11/2014 14:53, "Rich Bowen"  wrote:
> 
>> As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
>> least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct,
>> coming soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten
>> about it.
>>
>> It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided,
>> unilaterally, that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask
>> for forgiveness rather than permission.
>>
>> I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
>> which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
>> communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
>> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
>>
>> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
>> than expecting that someone else would.
>>
>> So, without further ado:
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>
>> Patches welcome.
>>
>> I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
>> document, to speak up here, so that:
>>
>> * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
>> * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
>> projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
>>
>> Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
>> initiative without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off,
>> for many, many years.
>>
>> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
>>
>> -- 
>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Rob Vesse
Great work Rich

The community.apache.org site has a specific question on this in the
Newbie FAQ (http://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html) which just points
to the wiki currently.  I have made an edit that points to the newly
published document but I don't have write permissions to publish the
updated site through the CMS.

If someone with appropriate karma could review (and tweak if necessary) my
changes and publish them that would be much appreciated

Thanks,

Rob

On 18/11/2014 14:53, "Rich Bowen"  wrote:

>As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
>least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct,
>coming soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten
>about it.
>
>It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided,
>unilaterally, that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask
>for forgiveness rather than permission.
>
>I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
>which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
>communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
>content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
>
>I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
>than expecting that someone else would.
>
>So, without further ado:
>http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>
>Patches welcome.
>
>I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
>document, to speak up here, so that:
>
>* Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
>* ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
>projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
>
>Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
>initiative without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off,
>for many, many years.
>
>[1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
>
>-- 
>Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon






Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Christopher  wrote:

> At first glance, a big +1. This is one of the better Code of Conduct
> policies that I've seen.
>
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> > As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
> > least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct,
> coming
> > soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten about it.
> >
> > It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided, unilaterally,
> > that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask for forgiveness
> > rather than permission.
> >
> > I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
> > which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
> > communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
> > content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
> >
> > I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
> > than expecting that someone else would.
> >
> > So, without further ado: http://www.apache.org/
> > foundation/policies/conduct.html
> >
> > Patches welcome.
>

I'd like a section like the following (Debian Code of Conduct) to be added:

"Serious or persistent offenders will be temporarily or permanently
banned from communicating through Debian's systems. Complaints should be
made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian communication
forum in question. To find contact information for these administrators,
please see [the page on Debian's organizational
structure](https://www.debian.org/intro/organization)"

In absence of such a notice people might not understand what happen if
they do not play by the rules.

Roberto




> >
> > I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
> > document, to speak up here, so that:
> >
> > * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
> > * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
> > projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
> >
> > Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
> initiative
> > without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off, for many,
> > many years.
> >
> > [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
> >
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
>


Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Christopher
At first glance, a big +1. This is one of the better Code of Conduct
policies that I've seen.


--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
> least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct, coming
> soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten about it.
>
> It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided, unilaterally,
> that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask for forgiveness
> rather than permission.
>
> I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
> which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
> communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
>
> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
> than expecting that someone else would.
>
> So, without further ado: http://www.apache.org/
> foundation/policies/conduct.html
>
> Patches welcome.
>
> I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
> document, to speak up here, so that:
>
> * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
> * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
> projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
>
> Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this initiative
> without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off, for many,
> many years.
>
> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>


RE: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1000

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A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:46 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Code of conduct

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> ...So, without further ado:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html ...

w00t indeed, thanks!
-Bertrand


Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> ...So, without further ado:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html ...

w00t indeed, thanks!
-Bertrand


Re: Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Issac Goldstand
w00t :)

On 11/18/2014 3:53 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
> least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct,
> coming soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten
> about it.
> 
> It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided,
> unilaterally, that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask
> for forgiveness rather than permission.
> 
> I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
> which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
> communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
> 
> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
> than expecting that someone else would.
> 
> So, without further ado:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> 
> Patches welcome.
> 
> I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
> document, to speak up here, so that:
> 
> * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
> * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
> projects that don't have such a code, can adopt
> 
> Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
> initiative without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off,
> for many, many years.
> 
> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html
> 



Code of conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Rich Bowen
As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at 
least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct, 
coming soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten 
about it.


It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided, 
unilaterally, that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask 
for forgiveness rather than permission.


I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1] 
which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other 
communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original 
content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.


I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other 
than expecting that someone else would.


So, without further ado: 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html


Patches welcome.

I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that 
document, to speak up here, so that:


* Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
* ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF 
projects that don't have such a code, can adopt


Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this 
initiative without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off, 
for many, many years.


[1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html

--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon