RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Content is our responsibility but given I undertook to convince people outside the usual ASF crowd to submit talks I can assure you that a lack of promotion for the event was the biggest hurdle. To paraphrase the typical conversation I had (with at least two dozen people): Ross: Hey, you know you are doing cool stuff, you should consider submitting a talk at ApacheCon A.N.Other: Isn't that just for Apache people though Ross: Traditionally, yes. But we are trying to make it much broader than that. Apache is about producing open source software, so anything open source related is a potential fit. Anything that uses ASF software, like your work, is a really good fit A.N.Other: I see. But from what I see there are only Apache folks in attendance. They might be interested in hearing about our work, but I don't think it will bring value to me. I'll fix any issues in the ASF stuff that I need to, but I have little interest in talking to the Apache community as a whole. It won't bring me any direct benefit over and above fixing the issues that affect me. It's a chicken and egg problem. If we don't market the event as being something more than an ASF event it's hard to make it something more than an ASF event. I understand LF are still in the don't tinker mode while they learn the lay of the land, but I (and others) were very explicit when we gave them the contract. We want LF to make the event a success. I tried very hard to build a coherent track this year. I'd say only around 20% of the people I approached submitted a talk. End result, yet another ApacheCon with a scattergun approach to content. That being said, I think I'm going to be able to build a reasonably coherent track with what I've seen so far. So we are doing our bit with respect to content. It would be so much easier if LF helped us get speakers from outside the ASF. Food for thought, Rich and I have discussed this a number of times. LF promotion is only a part of it. We need ASF people to think outside the ASF box. Ross -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:47 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed On 2 February 2015 at 19:30, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Agreed! Also, after all is said and done, and Rich has some time to breathe, I'd like to know just how helpful LF was this time around. From the sidelines, it seems that they really didn't do an aggressive job promoting the event and being a pro-active producer in trying to drive speakers. Being one who tries to do a little more than just help, I think we need to divide issues here. Content is our responsibility, as I believe it rightly should be, so finding and driving speakers is our part, of course with the help of LF. Promoting an event before the content is known is pretty hard and not very rewarding. The real (external) promotion start 14th February, when the schedule is in place (work which just started today). All that said, I believe in general we should look for ways to motivate our projects a lot more to participate (not only with talks, but also getting people to come). just my opinion rgds jan i. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Great job Rich, and those who helped. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rich Bowenmailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com Sent: 2/2/2015 12:19 AM To: devmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: ApacheCon NA CFP closed Thanks so much for people that got their last-minute papers into the CFP system. We currently have 235 proposals. It is still to be decided how many tracks we're going to run, but 6 tracks would be (roughly) 108 talks, just for reference. So we should be good. If you've volunteered to review, you can start any time. If you'd like to review and aren't in the system yet, email C. Craig Ross c...@linuxfoundation.org and ask to be added to the CFP review system, and cc this list, so that we have some idea of who's being added to the list. We have 2 weeks from today to get the talks (tentatively) scheduled and notify speakers on the 14th, so there's a lot of work ahead of us. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Sharan and I will go over the talks in the OFBiz track the coming few days, and will get back to everybody with the result. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Thanks so much for people that got their last-minute papers into the CFP system. We currently have 235 proposals. It is still to be decided how many tracks we're going to run, but 6 tracks would be (roughly) 108 talks, just for reference. So we should be good. If you've volunteered to review, you can start any time. If you'd like to review and aren't in the system yet, email C. Craig Ross c...@linuxfoundation.org and ask to be added to the CFP review system, and cc this list, so that we have some idea of who's being added to the list. We have 2 weeks from today to get the talks (tentatively) scheduled and notify speakers on the 14th, so there's a lot of work ahead of us. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: Tools for the Apache Maturity Model
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi Roberto, On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@slashdotmedia.com wrote: ...Davide (cc-ed) kindly created an alpha version for the new born Apache Maturity Model, you can see it live at the following address: Apache Maturity Model (Httpd Server) http://108.161.134.31:8000/analysis/report/2/4 ... That's fantastic! Glad you like that Bertrand. Davide would need some help to define the possible answers for the different questions. In the SOS Open Source case we took inspirations from QSOS metrics and came up with a set of possible answers for every question, plus we added tips and hints to get a better score (actions to be taken). Ideally we should aim to do a similar job for the Apache model. I'd be happy to include a link to that (once it has a more permanent URL) in the maturity model in a new tools section. As soon as we finalise the model we'll find a permanent home, sure. Roberto -Bertrand
Re: Tools for the Apache Maturity Model
Hi Roberto, On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@slashdotmedia.com wrote: ...Davide (cc-ed) kindly created an alpha version for the new born Apache Maturity Model, you can see it live at the following address: Apache Maturity Model (Httpd Server) http://108.161.134.31:8000/analysis/report/2/4 ... That's fantastic! I'd be happy to include a link to that (once it has a more permanent URL) in the maturity model in a new tools section. -Bertrand
RE: Contributing to Apache
See http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for I fo on GSoC and Sent from my Windows Phone From: Subham Sonimailto:subham.soni...@gmail.com Sent: 2/2/2015 12:43 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Contributing to Apache Sir/Madam, I would like to participate in GSOC 2015. I found that I can work on Apache Lucene and Apache Solr The reason I am contacting you is because I want to do a project related to Search Engines. Can you please help me out? Thanks and Regards, Subham Soni
RE: Contributing to Apache
Sorry I caught the send button, here's the mail I intended to send... See http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for info on GSoC and http://community.apache.org/newcomers/ for guidance on how to get started on ASF projects. Note GSoC is not officially underway. This years projects have not yet been announced. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com Sent: 2/2/2015 7:56 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Contributing to Apache See http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for I fo on GSoC and Sent from my Windows Phone From: Subham Sonimailto:subham.soni...@gmail.com Sent: 2/2/2015 12:43 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Contributing to Apache Sir/Madam, I would like to participate in GSOC 2015. I found that I can work on Apache Lucene and Apache Solr The reason I am contacting you is because I want to do a project related to Search Engines. Can you please help me out? Thanks and Regards, Subham Soni
ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Thanks so much for people that got their last-minute papers into the CFP system. We currently have 235 proposals. It is still to be decided how many tracks we're going to run, but 6 tracks would be (roughly) 108 talks, just for reference. So we should be good. If you've volunteered to review, you can start any time. If you'd like to review and aren't in the system yet, email C. Craig Ross c...@linuxfoundation.org and ask to be added to the CFP review system, and cc this list, so that we have some idea of who's being added to the list. We have 2 weeks from today to get the talks (tentatively) scheduled and notify speakers on the 14th, so there's a lot of work ahead of us. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Contributing to Apache
Sir/Madam, I would like to participate in GSOC 2015. I found that I can work on Apache Lucene and Apache Solr The reason I am contacting you is because I want to do a project related to Search Engines. Can you please help me out? Thanks and Regards, Subham Soni
