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Re: Hadoop Summit 2016 dates
Good afternoon Owen, I will try to keep the community that comes to the MB & MTI company blog: http://mbmconsulting.blogspot.com aware of the Hadoop dates. I just posted the web site for Hadoop 2016 on the blog. Thanks for the info Owen and please stay in touch. Sincerely, Mr. Winston Shines Principal Consultant MB & MTI Web: https://sites.google.com/site/mbmtiusacom Blog: http://mbmconsulting.blogspot.com E-mail: mbmwindowsser...@gmail.com On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > I told our marketing team to reach out to dev@community with the dates for > Hadoop Summit this year, but I don't see them on the calendar. If someone > with karma can add them, that would be great: > > From http://hadoopsummit.org/ : > > Dublin, Ireland: 13-14 April 2016 > San Jose, US: 28-30 June 2016 > Melbourne, AU: 31 Aug to 1 Sep 2016 > Tokyo, JP: 26-27 Oct 2016 > > .. Owen >
Re: Hadoop Summit 2016 dates
On 09/04/2016 15:44, Owen O'Malley wrote: > Mark, > Yahoo and Hortonworks have been running Hadoop Summits continually since > 2008. There is absolutely no one on tradema...@hadoop.apache.org that > doesn't know about them. Furthermore, Hadoop Summit is very Apache focused > using a diverse program committee, free meet ups around the event, and it > is the only professional Hadoop conference that provided all 130 Hadoop > committers free access this year. No-one is questioning any of the above. However, the process as documented in [1] is that permission needs to be requested to use ASF marks for each event. > I remind the Hadoop Summit organizers each year to send concom and the > Linux Foundation the dates as they are planned. I believe they did, but I'm > not watching those lists. I didn't know that you wanted the dates here as > well and I rectified that when I realized it. You probably also want to put > in the dates for Hadoop World, which is organized by O'Reily. I did some digging in the mail archives and an e-mail was received by concom early in March and a reply was sent on the same day pointing to [1] as the new process and highlighting the need to contact trademarks. I have checked the archives for both the ASF-wide and Hadoop specific trademarks list and no e-mails have been received by either of those lists requesting permission to the use the relevant ASF marks for Hadoop Summit 2016. There may well be agreements in place covering Hadoop Summit 2016 that provide the necessary approvals but my searching of the archives has not found them. Pointers to any such agreements (off-list if the locations are private please) would be appreciated. Ditto for Hadoop World. I do not believe we should be adding any events to the official ASF calendar until we can confirm that the appropriate permissions have been requested and received. Mark [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html
Re: Hadoop Summit 2016 dates
Mark, Yahoo and Hortonworks have been running Hadoop Summits continually since 2008. There is absolutely no one on tradema...@hadoop.apache.org that doesn't know about them. Furthermore, Hadoop Summit is very Apache focused using a diverse program committee, free meet ups around the event, and it is the only professional Hadoop conference that provided all 130 Hadoop committers free access this year. I remind the Hadoop Summit organizers each year to send concom and the Linux Foundation the dates as they are planned. I believe they did, but I'm not watching those lists. I didn't know that you wanted the dates here as well and I rectified that when I realized it. You probably also want to put in the dates for Hadoop World, which is organized by O'Reily. .. Owen
Re: Advice for community participation to lower tension
Don't count on it... Too much to do. On Apr 9, 2016 18:20, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote: > Thanks Niclas! > > Any chance you can find the time to put this up at community.apache.org? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 09/04/16 03:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Everyone, > > recently there was some tension/friction in a community, and I posted the > > following advice to everyone to better get along. Not only did the > > community members responded positively, but I also got pinged privately > to > > make this available publicly, so here it is, and I will let the wider > > community do with it what it sees fit... > > > > > > First a few general guidelines; > > a. Assume that the other party agrees more than disagrees with you. We > > tend to leave out agreements and focus on differences. Sometime this is > > forgotten and escalation becomes absurd for no rational reason. > > > > b. When in doubt, assume that you are interpreting the message wrongly > > and kindly ask for verification that you understood a particular topic > well. > > > > c. When writing, assume that every sentence will be misinterpreted. > > Review and try to reformulate to be as clear as possible. > > > > d. Use a submissive tone in all writing. Instead of the strong "In my > > opinion, we must..." or the quite neutral "I think we should...", try to > > use "Maybe we should consider..." or "Another idea that we could..." > > > >e. If you disagree strongly with an email sent, tag it Important, then > > put it aside. Read it half a day later again. Put it aside. Read it again > > next day, and then it is easier to write a balanced and inviting > response, > > instead of the initial vitriol that flows through us when we get upset. I > > found that sometimes a response wouldn't be necessary, as the importance > > was actually much lower than originally perceived, and I would be able to > > work "with", instead of "against", a given change. > > > > f. Be forgiving and accept different priorities. The other person is > not > > out to get you or attack your work. More often than not, it is one of the > > above (a-d) that are failing, or that the other person prioritize some > > aspect higher than you do. Sometimes, this requires compromises, > sometimes > > not and the different priorities can co-exist. > > > > > > Most communities at Apache consists of level-headed, reasonable people, > who > > have a strong vested interest in its Apache project. This interest, often > > passion, is both the source of tension, but it is also what unites the > > people within the community. It is easy to forget the vast amount of > > agreement that exists, and get upset over relatively small disagreements. > > Ability to put that aside, or downplay the importance, will ensure a > > harmonious project. > > > > Face-to-Face is excellent way to eliminate disagreements, but that is > often > > not practical. Consider Skype or Google Hangout, just for the social > aspect > > of being part of this community. It should not be formal, and the > > invitation should go out to everyone, perhaps someone want to make a > short > > presentation of what he/she is doing, to have some "structure", but that > > might not be needed either. Once we have a face to the words, and a > general > > idea how that person is socially, we are much more capable to interact by > > email. > > > > > > Cheers > > >
Re: Advice for community participation to lower tension
Thanks Niclas! Any chance you can find the time to put this up at community.apache.org? Cheers, Uli On 09/04/16 03:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Everyone, > recently there was some tension/friction in a community, and I posted the > following advice to everyone to better get along. Not only did the > community members responded positively, but I also got pinged privately to > make this available publicly, so here it is, and I will let the wider > community do with it what it sees fit... > > > First a few general guidelines; > a. Assume that the other party agrees more than disagrees with you. We > tend to leave out agreements and focus on differences. Sometime this is > forgotten and escalation becomes absurd for no rational reason. > > b. When in doubt, assume that you are interpreting the message wrongly > and kindly ask for verification that you understood a particular topic well. > > c. When writing, assume that every sentence will be misinterpreted. > Review and try to reformulate to be as clear as possible. > > d. Use a submissive tone in all writing. Instead of the strong "In my > opinion, we must..." or the quite neutral "I think we should...", try to > use "Maybe we should consider..." or "Another idea that we could..." > >e. If you disagree strongly with an email sent, tag it Important, then > put it aside. Read it half a day later again. Put it aside. Read it again > next day, and then it is easier to write a balanced and inviting response, > instead of the initial vitriol that flows through us when we get upset. I > found that sometimes a response wouldn't be necessary, as the importance > was actually much lower than originally perceived, and I would be able to > work "with", instead of "against", a given change. > > f. Be forgiving and accept different priorities. The other person is not > out to get you or attack your work. More often than not, it is one of the > above (a-d) that are failing, or that the other person prioritize some > aspect higher than you do. Sometimes, this requires compromises, sometimes > not and the different priorities can co-exist. > > > Most communities at Apache consists of level-headed, reasonable people, who > have a strong vested interest in its Apache project. This interest, often > passion, is both the source of tension, but it is also what unites the > people within the community. It is easy to forget the vast amount of > agreement that exists, and get upset over relatively small disagreements. > Ability to put that aside, or downplay the importance, will ensure a > harmonious project. > > Face-to-Face is excellent way to eliminate disagreements, but that is often > not practical. Consider Skype or Google Hangout, just for the social aspect > of being part of this community. It should not be formal, and the > invitation should go out to everyone, perhaps someone want to make a short > presentation of what he/she is doing, to have some "structure", but that > might not be needed either. Once we have a face to the words, and a general > idea how that person is socially, we are much more capable to interact by > email. > > > Cheers >
Re: Hadoop Summit 2016 dates
That was for the 2015 event and I found that myself when I went looking in the archives. I'm asking about the approval for the 2016 events. Explicit approval to use Apache marks is required for each event since one of the things that factors into the approval to use an Apache mark is the timing and location of the event. Mark On 08/04/2016 23:24, Owen O'Malley wrote: > There have been lots of discussions over the years, but I dug out the > thread from last year. > > Search the tradema...@hadoop.apache.org archives for 'Request for event > marks usage: Hadoop Summit 2015' > > It was approved by Shane as VP trademarks. > > .. Owen > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> I don't see the request to use an Apache mark in the name of this event >> anywhere in the archives (as required by [1]). Could you provide a >> reference to that request and the response please. >> >> Mark >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html >> >> >> >> On 08/04/2016 22:51, Owen O'Malley wrote: >>> I told our marketing team to reach out to dev@community with the dates >> for >>> Hadoop Summit this year, but I don't see them on the calendar. If someone >>> with karma can add them, that would be great: >>> >>> From http://hadoopsummit.org/ : >>> >>> Dublin, Ireland: 13-14 April 2016 >>> San Jose, US: 28-30 June 2016 >>> Melbourne, AU: 31 Aug to 1 Sep 2016 >>> Tokyo, JP: 26-27 Oct 2016 >>> >>> .. Owen >>> >> >> >
