回复：Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-04 Thread Liu Ted 
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Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2018 年 10 月 4 日周四 2:58，Myrle Krantz 写道：   Would it make 
sense to add a question about the form of a
participant's contribution?  (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
please forgive me)  I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.

Best Regards,
Myrle
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 PM Christopher  wrote:
>
> Agreed. It should not be significantly longer. Even without being
> longer or differently scoped, it occurs to me that an "Annual
> Community Survey" may just be better branding and may elicit more
> responses.
>
> I'd be happy to try to help with reviewing and providing feedback on
> question wording and survey length.
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM Joan Touzet  wrote:
> >
> > One problem with such an approach is that by lengthening the survey, you
> > end up with more "drop-outs," i.e., people who don't finish the complete
> > survey. This means that you have a reduced sample set. I believe the 2016
> > survey didn't count any partial responses, which is typically good
> > practice from a quantitative standpoint.
> >
> > I'm not opposed to a couple of questions, but we shouldn't take what was
> > an 8-ish question survey and turn it into a 20-ish question survey. The
> > 13% response rate we had would likely be halved, if not worse.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Christopher" 
> > > To: "ComDev" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 1:52:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to widen the survey's scope to a broader
> > > "Community Survey", while still retaining the diversity questions as
> > > one component, but also including other non-diversity questions
> > > pertaining to the ASF community at large?
> > >
> > > This suggestion comes from some conversations in Montreal, where some
> > > of us discussed the desire to have some additional feedback from our
> > > community. For example, one question I remember being discussed in
> > > particular was something like "If the ASF had more money, what should
> > > it do with it?" (possible answers: marketing materials provided to
> > > PMCs, hire more INFRA, provide EC2 credits to PMCs or INFRA for CI,
> > > publish educational/outreach materials for distribution, other). I'm
> > > sure we could come up with additional questions for the non-diversity
> > > component to the survey as well.
> > >
> > > Does broadening the scope of this survey to include diversity and
> > > non-diversity components make sense?
> > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:30 AM Sharan Foga  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > It’s been nearly 2 years since we ran our ASF Committer Diversity
> > > > Survey so I think it's about time that we looked at running it
> > > > again to see if things are changing. For those of you who haven't
> > > > seen the details or the results from our 2016 ASF Committer
> > > > Diversity Survey then you can find them at the link below:
> > > >
> > > > https://s.apache.org/lV9h
> > > >
> > > > Our original 2016 survey was run to:
> > > >
> > > >  -  help us get a picture of our existing diversity as all our
> > > >  committers are linked to all ASF projects, and also;
> > > >  -  to create a baseline measure so we can see if we see if we are
> > > >  improving or not in our diversity efforts.
> > > >
> > > > So I think that it would also be good to discuss and review the
> > > > survey questions to see if we can improve them or the phrasing to
> > > > better capture the data. Also if anyone is interested in helping
> > > > out then please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sharan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Post-Apachecon volunteers needed

2018-10-04 Thread Elek, Marton 





* Listing of all ApacheCon 2018 FeatherCast episodes in some 
spreadsheet/csv format that we can schedule on Twitter to get some more 
mileage out of these presentations.



This is an export from wordpress api (removing workshops, welcome 
messages, keynotes) + minor cleanups:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17kEtaAfYt4Z2VoSHQxrIMjqbXEbNhkGXskY3CSa5q4k/edit?usp=sharing

1. Modify the text of the tweet on the 'template' sheet
2. Change the scheduling at the second sheet
3. Export the second sheet as csv (didn't test the export but the format 
follows the hootsuite convention)


Marton



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[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-297) Whimsy Board Report helper only tracks Jira issues for FINERACT, not FINCN

2018-10-04 Thread Sebb (JIRA) 


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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-297?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16638911#comment-16638911
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Sebb commented on COMDEV-297:
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Make sure they have the same project category in JIRA.

> Whimsy Board Report helper only tracks Jira issues for FINERACT, not FINCN
> --
>
> Key: COMDEV-297
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-297
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Task
>  Components: Reporter Tool
>Reporter: Myrle Krantz
>Priority: Minor
>
> While generating the report with the help of reporter.apache.org for October 
> I realized only the Jira issues for FINERACT were being included, but none 
> for FINCN. Is there an easy fix to get both in there?



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[jira] [Created] (COMDEV-297) Whimsy Board Report helper only tracks Jira issues for FINERACT, not FINCN

2018-10-04 Thread Myrle Krantz (JIRA) 
Myrle Krantz created COMDEV-297:
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 Summary: Whimsy Board Report helper only tracks Jira issues for 
FINERACT, not FINCN
 Key: COMDEV-297
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-297
 Project: Community Development
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: Reporter Tool
Reporter: Myrle Krantz


While generating the report with the help of reporter.apache.org for October I 
realized only the Jira issues for FINERACT were being included, but none for 
FINCN. Is there an easy fix to get both in there?



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Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-04 Thread Myrle Krantz 
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:00 PM Pierre Smits  wrote:
> I guess you're referencing contributions to building project tracks at
> Apache* and other meet-up events (or do you regard these as 'operational')?

There are many ways we could engage.  But we won't know if it's
working if we aren't tracking any metrics.

: o),
Myrle

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-04 Thread Dave Fisher 



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> On Oct 3, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> 
> Would it make sense to add a question about the form of a
> participant's contribution?  (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
> logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
> please forgive me)  I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
> are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.

Helping users on the mailing list.

And great idea!

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 PM Christopher  wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. It should not be significantly longer. Even without being
>> longer or differently scoped, it occurs to me that an "Annual
>> Community Survey" may just be better branding and may elicit more
>> responses.
>> 
>> I'd be happy to try to help with reviewing and providing feedback on
>> question wording and survey length.
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM Joan Touzet  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One problem with such an approach is that by lengthening the survey, you
>>> end up with more "drop-outs," i.e., people who don't finish the complete
>>> survey. This means that you have a reduced sample set. I believe the 2016
>>> survey didn't count any partial responses, which is typically good
>>> practice from a quantitative standpoint.
>>> 
>>> I'm not opposed to a couple of questions, but we shouldn't take what was
>>> an 8-ish question survey and turn it into a 20-ish question survey. The
>>> 13% response rate we had would likely be halved, if not worse.
>>> 
>>> -Joan
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
 From: "Christopher" 
 To: "ComDev" 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 1:52:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey
 
 Would it be possible to widen the survey's scope to a broader
 "Community Survey", while still retaining the diversity questions as
 one component, but also including other non-diversity questions
 pertaining to the ASF community at large?
 
 This suggestion comes from some conversations in Montreal, where some
 of us discussed the desire to have some additional feedback from our
 community. For example, one question I remember being discussed in
 particular was something like "If the ASF had more money, what should
 it do with it?" (possible answers: marketing materials provided to
 PMCs, hire more INFRA, provide EC2 credits to PMCs or INFRA for CI,
 publish educational/outreach materials for distribution, other). I'm
 sure we could come up with additional questions for the non-diversity
 component to the survey as well.
 
 Does broadening the scope of this survey to include diversity and
 non-diversity components make sense?
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:30 AM Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> It’s been nearly 2 years since we ran our ASF Committer Diversity
> Survey so I think it's about time that we looked at running it
> again to see if things are changing. For those of you who haven't
> seen the details or the results from our 2016 ASF Committer
> Diversity Survey then you can find them at the link below:
> 
> https://s.apache.org/lV9h
> 
> Our original 2016 survey was run to:
> 
>  -  help us get a picture of our existing diversity as all our
>  committers are linked to all ASF projects, and also;
> -   to create a baseline measure so we can see if we see if we are
> improving or not in our diversity efforts.
> 
> So I think that it would also be good to discuss and review the
> survey questions to see if we can improve them or the phrasing to
> better capture the data. Also if anyone is interested in helping
> out then please let me know.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-04 Thread Pierre Smits 
Great idea, Myrle.

I guess you're referencing contributions to building project tracks at
Apache* and other meet-up events (or do you regard these as 'operational')?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion , Vice President*
*Apache Directory , PMC Member*
Apache Incubator , committer
*Apache OFBiz , contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve , committer


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 10:26 AM Ted Dunning  wrote:

> Great idea.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 20:58 Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>
> > Would it make sense to add a question about the form of a
> > participant's contribution?  (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
> > logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
> > please forgive me)  I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
> > are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-04 Thread Ted Dunning 
Great idea.




On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 20:58 Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Would it make sense to add a question about the form of a
> participant's contribution?  (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
> logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
> please forgive me)  I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
> are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.
>
>
>