Re: Omission in vote summary email template

[Craig Russell]

Hi Sebb,

This page needs more than a little bit of work. I've been looking at both the 
community.apache.org pages and the apache.org/dev pages and they are not 
synchronized well and have missing information.

I'm particularly keen to fix the processes for discussing, voting, inviting, 
and accepting new committers and PMC members. There is a different process for 
these depending on the status of the candidate: no ICLA on file, ICLA on file, 
committer on this project, committer on a different project.

In order to actually fix these pages, we will need consensus on the changes and 
also the process to actually make the changes.

Craig

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 2:54 AM, sebb  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 09:52, sebb  wrote:
>> 
>> The section:
>> 
>> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#close-vote
>> 
>> says to summarise the binding vote counts only.
>> 
>> I think that is wrong on two counts:
>> - non-binding votes should not be ignored
>> - individual votes should be listed to make it easy to check if all
>> votes have been included and to check binding status
> 
> Ignore the parts about binding status, as such votes are held on the
> private list and so are automatically binding (if that even makes
> sense for committer votes).
> 
> But I still think it would be useful to list the votes along with the summary.
> 
>> Can we get this changed?
>> 
>> Sebb.
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Re: Omission in vote summary email template

[Craig Crissman]

Sorry to reply here but I’m in a rush. Grandmother just passed few min ago. 
Today’s deadline for business license & income data to be in & ive a retail 
link online live event that I’ll be attempting on my iPhone. It’s been this way 
for 3 months. 
I am happy to learn & love things like this so long as I know what the deal is. 
This has seriously cost my business in lost time, lost contracts & even now it 
will take months for me to catch up paperwork & patch up relationships with 
family & clients who were unable to contact me.
I need to bill many from months ago.
I hope to speak with someone about this & how best to participate without 
affecting my accessibility to others. I’ve two girls & grandkids with one on 
the way. One was lost in the middle of this & daughter has yet to tell me she 
lost the baby. Others told me when I saw them as I was almost impossible to 
contact. I also have older family members who depend on me. One who is my Dad.
Hope that explains my end.
Please call but not today I have to run to farm to meet mom & help her with the 
loss of her mother.Who was 100 & doing well till just a month ago. She is 
taking it hard.
Talk soon

Thank You
Craig Crissman 
Shenandoah Supervac LLC
1-540-968-3174

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 5:54 AM, sebb  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 09:52, sebb  wrote:
>> 
>> The section:
>> 
>> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#close-vote
>> 
>> says to summarise the binding vote counts only.
>> 
>> I think that is wrong on two counts:
>> - non-binding votes should not be ignored
>> - individual votes should be listed to make it easy to check if all
>> votes have been included and to check binding status
> 
> Ignore the parts about binding status, as such votes are held on the
> private list and so are automatically binding (if that even makes
> sense for committer votes).
> 
> But I still think it would be useful to list the votes along with the summary.
> 
>> Can we get this changed?
>> 
>> Sebb.
> 
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Re: Omission in vote summary email template

[sebb]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 09:52, sebb  wrote:
>
> The section:
>
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#close-vote
>
> says to summarise the binding vote counts only.
>
> I think that is wrong on two counts:
> - non-binding votes should not be ignored
> - individual votes should be listed to make it easy to check if all
> votes have been included and to check binding status

Ignore the parts about binding status, as such votes are held on the
private list and so are automatically binding (if that even makes
sense for committer votes).

But I still think it would be useful to list the votes along with the summary.

> Can we get this changed?
>
> Sebb.

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Omission in vote summary email template

[sebb]

The section:

https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#close-vote

says to summarise the binding vote counts only.

I think that is wrong on two counts:
- non-binding votes should not be ignored
- individual votes should be listed to make it easy to check if all
votes have been included and to check binding status

Can we get this changed?

Sebb.

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