Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
My apologies Kenneth. I'm not sure how I missed you. Best, Myrle On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:36 AM Kenneth Knowles wrote: > I cast a +1 (non-binding) and (* on D&I resolution) but I am not listed > below. Just for the record should someone navigate to this thread. > > Kenn > > *From: *Myrle Krantz > *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:51 PM > *To: * > > The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda: > > > > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's > > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be > > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a > > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC > > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which > > ComDev can support our progress in these areas." > > > > The vote results are as follows: > > > > (The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.) > > (The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide > > the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.) > > > > +1, Binding (8) > > Myrle Krantz * > > Shane Curcuru * > > Ross Gardler * > > Gris Cuevas * > > Bertrand Delacretaz *- > > Oliver Heintz > > Sharan Foga - > > Rich Bowen *- > > > > +1, Non-binding (8) > > Naomi Slater * > > Joan Touzet * > > Awasum Yannick > > Pierre Smits > > Jacques Le Roux > > Nate McCall > > Dinesh Joshi * > > Kevin McGrail *- > > > > -1, Non-binding (1) > > Tim Williams > > > > Other, Binding (2) > > > > Ulrich Stärk > > "+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this > > done or whether it would be > > better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing > > at all. Plus, we can fix > > stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it > > out." > > > > Jim Jagielski > > "I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt > > as the form of the spin out." > > > > For the record: > > Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on > April > > 30th here: > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > > > Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st. > The > > last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st. > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor > of a > > president's committee. > > > > I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the > > discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC > > that this vote was also about the form of the committee: > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E > > > > I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee > > form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There > was > > wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and > > considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the > > beginning of May. > > > > I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of > > consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board. > > > > Best Regards, > > Myrle > > PMC Member, Apache Community Development > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail > > wrote: > > > > > I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own > > > committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev > and > > > it's time to give it a shot on it's own. > > > > > > -KAM > > > > > > On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > > > FYI all: > > > > > > > > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, > I'll > > > > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone > who > > > > wants to participate do so by then. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Myrle > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done > > > under > > > >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause > > > without > > > >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will > > > fracture > > > >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on > > this > > > >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best > > > >> wishes... > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> --tim > > > >> > > > >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > > >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board: > > > >>> > > > >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's > > > >>> c
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
I cast a +1 (non-binding) and (* on D&I resolution) but I am not listed below. Just for the record should someone navigate to this thread. Kenn *From: *Myrle Krantz *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:51 PM *To: * The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda: > > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which > ComDev can support our progress in these areas." > > The vote results are as follows: > > (The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.) > (The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide > the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.) > > +1, Binding (8) > Myrle Krantz * > Shane Curcuru * > Ross Gardler * > Gris Cuevas * > Bertrand Delacretaz *- > Oliver Heintz > Sharan Foga - > Rich Bowen *- > > +1, Non-binding (8) > Naomi Slater * > Joan Touzet * > Awasum Yannick > Pierre Smits > Jacques Le Roux > Nate McCall > Dinesh Joshi * > Kevin McGrail *- > > -1, Non-binding (1) > Tim Williams > > Other, Binding (2) > > Ulrich Stärk > "+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this > done or whether it would be > better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing > at all. Plus, we can fix > stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it > out." > > Jim Jagielski > "I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt > as the form of the spin out." > > For the record: > Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on April > 30th here: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st. The > last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st. > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor of a > president's committee. > > I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the > discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC > that this vote was also about the form of the committee: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E > > I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee > form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There was > wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and > considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the > beginning of May. > > I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of > consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > PMC Member, Apache Community Development > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail > wrote: > > > I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own > > committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev and > > it's time to give it a shot on it's own. > > > > -KAM > > > > On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > > FYI all: > > > > > > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll > > > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who > > > wants to participate do so by then. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Myrle > > > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams > > wrote: > > > > > >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done > > under > > >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause > > without > > >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will > > fracture > > >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on > this > > >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best > > >> wishes... > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> --tim > > >> > > >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board: > > >>> > > >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's > > >>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to > be > > >>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF > > formulate a > > >>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC > > >>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in > > which > > >>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas." > > >>> > > >>> Here's my +1. >
