Re: Requests for comdev membership

2023-08-16 Thread Dave Fisher
I think it is easier than you think.

1. People who want to make changes submit PRs (if it’s svn does Comdev have a 
process?)

2. Like any PMC, members and committers approve and merge PRs.

What’s the problem? Not enough PR review?

Yurking and all the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 8:50 PM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> 
> It seems to me that the recent requests for comdev membership are symptoms
> of broken process. I understand that this is necessary to get things done,
> but the fact that someone has to be a comdev member in order to edit the
> website is broken. I am not sure what the way forward is here, but if
> someone has some insight into how things work, and can suggest a more
> reasonable way around this than making contractors comdev members, I would
> be much appreciative
> 
> Rich


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Requests for comdev membership

2023-08-16 Thread Rich Bowen
It seems to me that the recent requests for comdev membership are symptoms
of broken process. I understand that this is necessary to get things done,
but the fact that someone has to be a comdev member in order to edit the
website is broken. I am not sure what the way forward is here, but if
someone has some insight into how things work, and can suggest a more
reasonable way around this than making contractors comdev members, I would
be much appreciative

Rich


Re: [PR] Update mailing-lists.md (comdev-site)

2023-08-16 Thread via GitHub


chrisdutz merged PR #127:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/127


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Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread sebb
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 11:00, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> >>> Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :
> >>>
>  On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> >>
> >> All:
> >>
> >> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> >> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> >>
> >> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
> >> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> >> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> >> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> >>
> >> Logos:
> >> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> >>
> >> Event URL:
> >> https://communityovercode.org/
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> BKP
> >
> > There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >
> > https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > https://commons.apache.org/
> > https://hc.apache.org/
> >
> > and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >
> > They include a link to the event page:
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > with an image such as
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> 
>  There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
>  most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
>  over code logo as the current event.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> >>> checks
> >>> against the 'current-event' image/link:
> >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> >>>
> >>> (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> >>>
> >>> It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> >>>
> >>> I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> >>> Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
> >>
> >> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> >> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> >> wider-encompassing name here.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 
> >>> 10
> >>> projects
> >>> 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> >>> image (Accumulo)
> >>> and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> >>>
> >>> Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event 
> >>> image/link
> >>> is used.
> >>>
> >>> So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use 
> >>> apachecon.com/event-images/
> >>> and it
> >>> would be simpler to update the current-event images.
> >>
> >> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> >> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> >> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> >> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> >> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> >> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> >> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> >> multiple events occurring at the same time.
> >
> > Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
> > old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
> > Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
> > include links to multiple events.
> > So I don't see those as critical issues.
>
> No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues
> nonetheless.
>
> >
> > Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.
>
> No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that
> projects opt for the more configurable option.

OK, good, it was not clear either way before.

How does one ask questions or provide feedback on the event banner page?

https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/

It would be help to provide contact details on the page.

> >
> > Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
> > And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.
> >
> > Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
> > There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
> > This may be a problem for some assistive readers.
>
> I don't believe there is any issue at all for assistive readers here.
> The produced link and image is static once added to the DOM, and has
> both alt and title elements to help out. If the content were to change
> based on user events, sure, but for static additions like this, the
> readers should not have any problem (assuming they were built/updated

Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread sebb
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 14:25, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
>
> Okay, thanks for the update on the two processes. I was not aware of
> them, obviously. I will get the images into that site.

Great, that will save a lot of effort for projects that use this method.

>
> Brian Proffitt
> VP, Marketing & Publicity
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:00 AM Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> > >>> Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :
> > >>>
> >  On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> All:
> > >>
> > >> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> > >> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> > >>
> > >> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to 
> > >> your
> > >> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> > >> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> > >> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> > >>
> > >> Logos:
> > >> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> > >>
> > >> Event URL:
> > >> https://communityovercode.org/
> > >>
> > >> Thank you!
> > >> BKP
> > >
> > > There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> > >
> > > https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > > https://commons.apache.org/
> > > https://hc.apache.org/
> > >
> > > and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> > >
> > > They include a link to the event page:
> > > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > > with an image such as
> > > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> > 
> >  There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ 
> >  which
> >  most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> >  over code logo as the current event.
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> > >>> checks
> > >>> against the 'current-event' image/link:
> > >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> > >>>
> > >>> (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> > >>>
> > >>> I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> > >>> Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
> > >>
> > >> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> > >> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> > >> wider-encompassing name here.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the 
> > >>> first 10
> > >>> projects
> > >>> 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> > >>> image (Accumulo)
> > >>> and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> > >>>
> > >>> Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event 
> > >>> image/link
> > >>> is used.
> > >>>
> > >>> So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use 
> > >>> apachecon.com/event-images/
> > >>> and it
> > >>> would be simpler to update the current-event images.
> > >>
> > >> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> > >> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> > >> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> > >> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> > >> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> > >> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> > >> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> > >> multiple events occurring at the same time.
> > >
> > > Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
> > > old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
> > > Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
> > > include links to multiple events.
> > > So I don't see those as critical issues.
> >
> > No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues
> > nonetheless.
> >
> > >
> > > Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.
> >
> > No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that
> > projects opt for the more configurable option.
> >
> > >
> > > Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
> > > And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.
> > >
> > > Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
> > > There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
> > > This may be a problem for some assistive readers.
> >
> > I don't believe

Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread Brian Proffitt
Okay, thanks for the update on the two processes. I was not aware of
them, obviously. I will get the images into that site.


Brian Proffitt
VP, Marketing & Publicity

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:00 AM Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> >>> Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :
> >>>
>  On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> >>
> >> All:
> >>
> >> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> >> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> >>
> >> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
> >> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> >> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> >> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> >>
> >> Logos:
> >> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> >>
> >> Event URL:
> >> https://communityovercode.org/
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> BKP
> >
> > There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >
> > https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > https://commons.apache.org/
> > https://hc.apache.org/
> >
> > and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >
> > They include a link to the event page:
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > with an image such as
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> 
>  There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
>  most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
>  over code logo as the current event.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> >>> checks
> >>> against the 'current-event' image/link:
> >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> >>>
> >>> (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> >>>
> >>> It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> >>>
> >>> I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> >>> Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
> >>
> >> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> >> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> >> wider-encompassing name here.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 
> >>> 10
> >>> projects
> >>> 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> >>> image (Accumulo)
> >>> and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> >>>
> >>> Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event 
> >>> image/link
> >>> is used.
> >>>
> >>> So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use 
> >>> apachecon.com/event-images/
> >>> and it
> >>> would be simpler to update the current-event images.
> >>
> >> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> >> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> >> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> >> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> >> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> >> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> >> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> >> multiple events occurring at the same time.
> >
> > Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
> > old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
> > Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
> > include links to multiple events.
> > So I don't see those as critical issues.
>
> No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues
> nonetheless.
>
> >
> > Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.
>
> No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that
> projects opt for the more configurable option.
>
> >
> > Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
> > And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.
> >
> > Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
> > There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
> > This may be a problem for some assistive readers.
>
> I don't believe there is any issue at all for assistive readers here.
> The produced link and image is static once added to the DOM, and has
> both alt and title elements to help out. If the content were to change
> based on user events, sure, but for static additions like this, the
> readers should not have any problem (assuming they were built/updated
> within the last decade or so).
>
> >
> > Sebb

Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread Daniel Gruno

On 2023-08-16 11:47, sebb wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:


On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:

Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :


On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:


All:

ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).

I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
event with the logos on your project's social media channels.

Logos:
https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo

Event URL:
https://communityovercode.org/

Thank you!
BKP


There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:

https://jmeter.apache.org/
https://commons.apache.org/
https://hc.apache.org/

and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.

They include a link to the event page:
https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
with an image such as
https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png


There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
over code logo as the current event.



Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
checks
against the 'current-event' image/link:
https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events

(also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )

It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.

I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.


I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
wider-encompassing name here.



Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 10
projects
6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
image (Accumulo)
and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).

Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event image/link
is used.

So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use apachecon.com/event-images/
and it
would be simpler to update the current-event images.


In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
multiple events occurring at the same time.


Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
include links to multiple events.
So I don't see those as critical issues.


No one is saying these issues are critical, but they _are_ issues 
nonetheless.




Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.


No one is saying projects should be forced, but I am _hoping_ that 
projects opt for the more configurable option.




Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.

Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
This may be a problem for some assistive readers.


I don't believe there is any issue at all for assistive readers here. 
The produced link and image is static once added to the DOM, and has 
both alt and title elements to help out. If the content were to change 
based on user events, sure, but for static additions like this, the 
readers should not have any problem (assuming they were built/updated 
within the last decade or so).




Sebb





The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
before and after every event.
Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.

By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
is that intentional?


Brian Proffitt
VP, Marketing & Publicity

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Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread sebb
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 10:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> > Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :
> >
> >> On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> 
>  All:
> 
>  ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
>  in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> 
>  I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
>  project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
>  projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
>  event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> 
>  Logos:
>  https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> 
>  Event URL:
>  https://communityovercode.org/
> 
>  Thank you!
>  BKP
> >>>
> >>> There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >>>
> >>> https://jmeter.apache.org/
> >>> https://commons.apache.org/
> >>> https://hc.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >>>
> >>> They include a link to the event page:
> >>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> >>> with an image such as
> >>> https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
> >>
> >> There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
> >> most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> >> over code logo as the current event.
> >>
> >
> > Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
> > checks
> > against the 'current-event' image/link:
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events
> >
> > (also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )
> >
> > It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.
> >
> > I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
> > Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.
>
> I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the
> conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a
> wider-encompassing name here.
>
> >
> > Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 10
> > projects
> > 6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
> > image (Accumulo)
> > and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).
> >
> > Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event image/link
> > is used.
> >
> > So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use apachecon.com/event-images/
> > and it
> > would be simpler to update the current-event images.
>
> In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that
> the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the
> event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is
> quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not
> work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for
> a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address
> these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as
> multiple events occurring at the same time.

Sites which use the admittedly limited images provided by the
old-style 'current-event' solution will have allowed for this.
Though of course, more sizes could be provided. Also the HTML could
include links to multiple events.
So I don't see those as critical issues.

Projects should not be forced to change unnecessarily.

Of course if they wish to use the replacement solution they can do so.
And can be encouraged to do so as part of any site redesign.

Note that the new solution uses Javascript.
There is no fallback for browsers that don't support Javascript.
This may be a problem for some assistive readers.

Sebb
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
> >>> before and after every event.
> >>> Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
> >>> redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
> >>> is that intentional?
> >>>
>  Brian Proffitt
>  VP, Marketing & Publicity
> 
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Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread Daniel Gruno

On 2023-08-16 10:46, Roy Lenferink wrote:

Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :


On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:


All:

ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).

I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
event with the logos on your project's social media channels.

Logos:
https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo

Event URL:
https://communityovercode.org/

Thank you!
BKP


There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:

https://jmeter.apache.org/
https://commons.apache.org/
https://hc.apache.org/

and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.

They include a link to the event page:
https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
with an image such as
https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png


There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
over code logo as the current event.



Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
checks
against the 'current-event' image/link:
https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events

(also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )

It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.

I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.


I think this is more of a naming issue than anything, and I believe the 
conferences team is aware that they need to work towards a 
wider-encompassing name here.




Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 10
projects
6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
image (Accumulo)
and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).

Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event image/link
is used.

So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use apachecon.com/event-images/
and it
would be simpler to update the current-event images.


In the short term, I would agree. In the longer term, I would hope that 
the recommendations from the conferences team (which is to use the 
event-images snippet) would be followed. The current-event image is 
quite limited in that it's a single image of a fixed size, so it may not 
work for a specific web site theme, and it will only ever be usable for 
a single event at a time. The event-images snippet was made to address 
these issues by supporting both dark and light themes as well as 
multiple events occurring at the same time.







The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
before and after every event.
Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.

By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
is that intentional?


Brian Proffitt
VP, Marketing & Publicity

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Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread Roy Lenferink
Op wo 16 aug 2023 om 07:19 schreef Daniel Gruno :

> On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> >>
> >> All:
> >>
> >> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> >> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> >>
> >> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
> >> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> >> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> >> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> >>
> >> Logos:
> >> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> >>
> >> Event URL:
> >> https://communityovercode.org/
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> BKP
> >
> > There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >
> > https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > https://commons.apache.org/
> > https://hc.apache.org/
> >
> > and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >
> > They include a link to the event page:
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > with an image such as
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
>
> There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
> most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> over code logo as the current event.
>

Whimsy has a check for ^https?://.*apache.org/events/current-event which
checks
against the 'current-event' image/link:
https://whimsy.apache.org/site/check/events

(also part of the site-scan overview: https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ )

It seems that 104 projects link to the 'current-event' image/link.

I remember that the current-event image previously was also used for the
Apache Roadshows, so not only ApacheCon.

Having a look at the project list (I used the Whimsy list): of the first 10
projects
6 use the current-event image/link, 1 also has the Community over code
image (Accumulo)
and 1 contains a direct link to apachecon.com without an image (AGE).

Checking the community.a.o website, even there the current-event image/link
is used.

So to me it seems that not a lot of websites use apachecon.com/event-images/
and it
would be simpler to update the current-event images.


> >
> > The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
> > before and after every event.
> > Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
> > redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.
> >
> > By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
> > is that intentional?
> >
> >> Brian Proffitt
> >> VP, Marketing & Publicity
> >>
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Re: [ASF M&P & Conferences] Community Over Code logo for project sites

2023-08-16 Thread sebb
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 06:19, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-15 22:37, sebb wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 18:55, Brian Proffitt  wrote:
> >>
> >> All:
> >>
> >> ASF’s flagship event, Community Over Code, is happening October 7-10
> >> in Halifax, Nova Scotia (formerly called ApacheCon).
> >>
> >> I would like to ask all projects to add the logo and event URL to your
> >> project website to help the ASF promote the event - and thank you to
> >> projects who have already done this! Or, if you'd like, promote the
> >> event with the logos on your project's social media channels.
> >>
> >> Logos:
> >> https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/#eventlogo
> >>
> >> Event URL:
> >> https://communityovercode.org/
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> BKP
> >
> > There is already a standard way to do this, as is done by:
> >
> > https://jmeter.apache.org/
> > https://commons.apache.org/
> > https://hc.apache.org/
> >
> > and probably others that use Maven to build their sites.
> >
> > They include a link to the event page:
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event.html
> > with an image such as
> > https://www.apache.org/events/current-event-125x125.png
>
> There is even a newer way, https://www.apachecon.com/event-images/ which
> most project sites use by now, and which already features the community
> over code logo as the current event.

I did not know about that.

But that should not mean the previous method has to be abandoned.


> >
> > The idea behind this was to avoid having to change loads of websites
> > before and after every event.
> > Instead, the event organisers can change the page content (or add a
> > redirect) and the various sized images accordingly.
> >
> > By the way, the SVG and PNG versions of the logo look very different -
> > is that intentional?
> >
> >> Brian Proffitt
> >> VP, Marketing & Publicity
> >>
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