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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> wrote:
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> On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
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>> Folks,
>>
>> I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects that 
>> submitted project ideas
>> that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are subprojects 
>> I believe. With 138
>> PMCs plus 35 podlings, this is less than one fifth of our projects.
>>
>> We only had 34 ideas one week before our application was due.
>>
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> For my two cents, GSOC has been a mixed result for me personally.  I think 
> I've mentored 4 times in the past.  Two were successful, two were not (one 
> time, the student simply went radio silent about 1/2 way through despite 
> producing code all the way up to that point).  I know others in Mahout had 
> similar experiences where it was a mixed bag.  For me, this year (and last), 
> it simply was a matter of not having the time to commit to it, esp. in light 
> of the fact that I couldn't reliably predict whether it would be successful 
> or not, despite putting in a fair amount of due diligence up front, in fact 
> more than I would even do for someone I was directly hiring.
>
>
>> I run into committers that are not members of their projects PMCs who are 
>> eager to be mentors but
>> have no clue about what's going on because nobody from the PMC forwarded my 
>> emails to their dev lists.
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>> So the problem seems twofold: no interest and not reaching the right people. 
>> The latter could be
>> improved by simply sending to committers@ instead of pmcs@ but it's the 
>> first that worries me.
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> committers@ does seem like it would be better from an awareness POV.
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>>
>> I believe GSoC and every other opportunity to attract new contributors to 
>> our projects should be a
>> key priority of our PMCs. Apparently it's not, for whatever reasons. I could 
>> think of missing
>> cycles, indifference, and wrong priorities.
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> Perhaps, esp. for more popular projects, there is no shortage of 
> contributors?  I really don't know.  Overall, I like GSOC and may do it again 
> in the future, but it was too much time currently.
>
>
>>
>> So what could we do to increase awareness for the opportunities GSoC offers 
>> and that this program is
>> important to the foundation? Write more emails? Ask the board to mandate a 
>> section in board reports
>> detailing the project's GSoC endeavors? Any ideas?
>>
>
> I don't think mandating makes sense.  We're all volunteers and if a PMC 
> doesn't want to do GSOC then that is their choice.
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>
>> Uli
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