[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details

2023-07-10 Thread Shane Curcuru (Jira)


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Shane Curcuru commented on COMDEV-326:
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More to the point, this page isn't linked from the "official" PMC guide on how 
to do things like add committers or PMC members, so I'd bet many PMC don't ever 
read it.  A key topic for discussion is how to clearly reconcile - and 
crosslink where relevant - the a.o/dev pages (with explicit guides on how to do 
things) versus any informational content on community.a.o

https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter

> Committer invite template omits PMC role details
> 
>
> Key: COMDEV-326
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Website
> Environment: 
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
>Reporter: Sebb
>Priority: Major
>
> The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction 
> between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC 
> member.
> In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores 
> the PMC role.
> As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to 
> become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to 
> become a PMC member.
> I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC 
> role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices:
> - decline both invites
> - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite
> - accept both committer invite and PMC invite
> [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
> [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E



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[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details

2023-04-07 Thread Craig L Russell (Jira)


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Craig L Russell commented on COMDEV-326:


I agree that the committer invite template should have an optional section for 
folks who have been voted for both committer and PMC member roles.

There is precious little which discusses PMC member criteria. The page should 
be improved to make it clear that the committer role and PMC member role are 
different, with different processes.

 

> Committer invite template omits PMC role details
> 
>
> Key: COMDEV-326
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Website
> Environment: 
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
>Reporter: Sebb
>Priority: Major
>
> The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction 
> between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC 
> member.
> In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores 
> the PMC role.
> As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to 
> become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to 
> become a PMC member.
> I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC 
> role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices:
> - decline both invites
> - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite
> - accept both committer invite and PMC invite
> [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
> [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E



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[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details

2023-04-05 Thread Shane Curcuru (Jira)


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Shane Curcuru commented on COMDEV-326:
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Is this still relevant?  That is, is the current page with email templates the 
best versions of similar templates, and should we update them as ComDev PMC 
members feel fit?  Or do these templates really belong someplace else, like 
under /dev/pmc or the like?

> Committer invite template omits PMC role details
> 
>
> Key: COMDEV-326
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Website
> Environment: 
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
>Reporter: Sebb
>Priority: Major
>
> The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction 
> between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC 
> member.
> In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores 
> the PMC role.
> As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to 
> become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to 
> become a PMC member.
> I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC 
> role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices:
> - decline both invites
> - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite
> - accept both committer invite and PMC invite
> [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
> [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E



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[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details

2019-11-12 Thread Sebb (Jira)


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Sebb commented on COMDEV-326:
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Furthermore, the page does not make clear that an invite to become a PMC member 
is conditional on acceptance by the board.

If the invite is sent before the NOTICE period has elapsed, the invite should 
make it clear that it subject to approval by the board.

Generally it's simpler to delay sending any PMC invitation until after the 
NOTICE period.

> Committer invite template omits PMC role details
> 
>
> Key: COMDEV-326
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326
> Project: Community Development
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Website
> Environment: 
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
>Reporter: Sebb
>Priority: Major
>
> The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction 
> between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC 
> member.
> In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores 
> the PMC role.
> As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to 
> become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to 
> become a PMC member.
> I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC 
> role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices:
> - decline both invites
> - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite
> - accept both committer invite and PMC invite
> [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template
> [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E



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