[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17741622#comment-17741622 ] Shane Curcuru commented on COMDEV-326: -- More to the point, this page isn't linked from the "official" PMC guide on how to do things like add committers or PMC members, so I'd bet many PMC don't ever read it. A key topic for discussion is how to clearly reconcile - and crosslink where relevant - the a.o/dev pages (with explicit guides on how to do things) versus any informational content on community.a.o https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter > Committer invite template omits PMC role details > > > Key: COMDEV-326 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326 > Project: Community Development > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Website > Environment: > https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template >Reporter: Sebb >Priority: Major > > The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction > between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC > member. > In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores > the PMC role. > As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to > become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to > become a PMC member. > I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC > role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices: > - decline both invites > - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite > - accept both committer invite and PMC invite > [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17709770#comment-17709770 ] Craig L Russell commented on COMDEV-326: I agree that the committer invite template should have an optional section for folks who have been voted for both committer and PMC member roles. There is precious little which discusses PMC member criteria. The page should be improved to make it clear that the committer role and PMC member role are different, with different processes. > Committer invite template omits PMC role details > > > Key: COMDEV-326 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326 > Project: Community Development > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Website > Environment: > https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template >Reporter: Sebb >Priority: Major > > The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction > between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC > member. > In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores > the PMC role. > As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to > become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to > become a PMC member. > I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC > role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices: > - decline both invites > - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite > - accept both committer invite and PMC invite > [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17708997#comment-17708997 ] Shane Curcuru commented on COMDEV-326: -- Is this still relevant? That is, is the current page with email templates the best versions of similar templates, and should we update them as ComDev PMC members feel fit? Or do these templates really belong someplace else, like under /dev/pmc or the like? > Committer invite template omits PMC role details > > > Key: COMDEV-326 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326 > Project: Community Development > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Website > Environment: > https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template >Reporter: Sebb >Priority: Major > > The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction > between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC > member. > In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores > the PMC role. > As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to > become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to > become a PMC member. > I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC > role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices: > - decline both invites > - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite > - accept both committer invite and PMC invite > [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-326) Committer invite template omits PMC role details
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16972732#comment-16972732 ] Sebb commented on COMDEV-326: - Furthermore, the page does not make clear that an invite to become a PMC member is conditional on acceptance by the board. If the invite is sent before the NOTICE period has elapsed, the invite should make it clear that it subject to approval by the board. Generally it's simpler to delay sending any PMC invitation until after the NOTICE period. > Committer invite template omits PMC role details > > > Key: COMDEV-326 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-326 > Project: Community Development > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Website > Environment: > https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template >Reporter: Sebb >Priority: Major > > The committer invite template [1] is not very clear on the distinction > between an invitation as a committer, and invitation as a committer + PMC > member. > In particular, it describes the role of the committer, but largely ignores > the PMC role. > As a result, I have seen at least one acceptance reply that said "I accept to > become a committer" [2] - leaving unstated whether or not they agree to > become a PMC member. > I think any template needs to make very clear what is involved in the PMC > role, and also that the invitee has 3 choices: > - decline both invites > - accept the committer invite and decline the PMC invite > - accept both committer invite and PMC invite > [1] https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#committer-invite-template > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/796c4b3e8c0f191add39c7d1b6cc154a5e316910df8120db1151c739@%3Cprivate.jackrabbit.apache.org%3E -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org