Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
potiuk commented on PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#issuecomment-1962388856 > Inspiring by this simple discussion, I'm taking to try to activate more contributors > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/y1b0x39g3xkh45klmv9ndfj1czcrx4zb > > we will see what happens 😄 Cool. For testing the RC - what works for us perfectly is that when we send an RC we generat this kind of issue: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/37648 - all the contributors who contributed to the release candidate are `@-mentioned` and invited to test their changes, and we have `checkmarks` that the release manager checks when someone confirms that a change/fix works as expected - we regularly have 60%-80% changes tested and verified for pretty much all releases -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
slawekjaranowski commented on PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#issuecomment-1962385814 Inspiring by this simple discussion, I'm taking to try to activate more contributors https://lists.apache.org/thread/y1b0x39g3xkh45klmv9ndfj1czcrx4zb we will see what happens 😄 -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
potiuk commented on code in PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#discussion_r1501401856 ## wg-advisors/red-flags.md: ## @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ not a policeman enforcing the rules. * Discussions are happening off-list. * Too much talk is happening on the private list. * Users' questions are going unanswered on the mailing list. +* Users' reported issues are going uncommented and untouched. Review Comment: Example from Airflow: We are using "collaborators" for that (AKA triage team) where we ask and encourage people to become members of the team and help to triage the issues/PR, we actively "recruit" people to the team (often those people become committers or stop being active so it's natural but also from time to time we have a "call for collaborators" - which reminds people that there is something like "collaborators" and why. But it's far from perfect I would love to know how others are doing it :D -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
potiuk commented on code in PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#discussion_r1501401856 ## wg-advisors/red-flags.md: ## @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ not a policeman enforcing the rules. * Discussions are happening off-list. * Too much talk is happening on the private list. * Users' questions are going unanswered on the mailing list. +* Users' reported issues are going uncommented and untouched. Review Comment: Example from Airflow: We are using "collaborators" for that (aka known as triage team) where we ask and encourage people to become members of the team and help to triage the issues/PR, we actively "recruit" people to the team (often those people become committers or stop being active so it's natural but also from time to time we have a "call for collaborators" - which reminds people that there is something like "collaborators" and why. But it's far from perfect I would love to know how others are doing it :D -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
potiuk commented on PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#issuecomment-1962325653 > Although I'm afraid it's too generic to be a red flag, these are good points. I think one of the good things - assuming we will have a number of advisors advising a number of projects - those might be a great subject to discuss - how PMCs are dealing with those? how they dealt with it when things became too overwhelming? How they engaged wider community. I think `advisors` is a great platform to discuss it and bring those ideas in and disseminate it among other PMCs - that's the "Bi-directionality" I added yesterday, but I will also add a small chapter about this "platform" thingie. -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
slawekjaranowski commented on code in PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#discussion_r1501397552 ## wg-advisors/red-flags.md: ## @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ not a policeman enforcing the rules. * Discussions are happening off-list. * Too much talk is happening on the private list. * Users' questions are going unanswered on the mailing list. +* Users' reported issues are going uncommented and untouched. Review Comment: In PMCs like Maven we have many projects which are different and many times to do a PR review, comment issues deeper knowledge is needed in a specific project ... but not all commiters good know all projects and so on ... So helping from contributors can be very valuable. It can be very interesting how others projects deal with such cases ... -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [PR] Add next examples that discourages to contributions [comdev-working-groups]
potiuk commented on code in PR #19: URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/19#discussion_r1501378100 ## wg-advisors/red-flags.md: ## @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ not a policeman enforcing the rules. * Discussions are happening off-list. * Too much talk is happening on the private list. * Users' questions are going unanswered on the mailing list. +* Users' reported issues are going uncommented and untouched. Review Comment: +1 on all of these. I think one of the big advisors roles might be to help to figure out how to deal with those oat different stages of the priojects (and here I see great opportunity to exchange learnings between projects - and advisors talking between themselves about some ideas to improve. For me - for example it was eye-opening that those do not have to be committers to respond - and finding ways to encourage users/contributors to respond to each other and review each other's code - also as a way to become a committer. -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org