RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
I'm really happy I'm not the only one to want this great platform integrated into cordova. If enough of us can be involved, we will be able to carry out this project. Since you asked me to not wait to start my research. Here are the results of my first analysis : Firstly our work will be simplified by three things : - We can reuse a lot of code from Browser platform. - Chromium implement many features natively, we only have to align these with our specs. - We have access to nodejs which is really easy to use and can perform a lot of tasks. Below, I will detail the work to be done by repository. # Work on cordova-js : - exec: same as Browser platform - platform: we should isolate nodejs's require function -- window.nodeRequire = window.require; -- window.require = null; # Work on cordova-lib / cordova (cordova-cli) : - parser: We can reuse browser_parser.js We have to create node-webkit specific package.json using update_from_config function - platforms:Just add the platform into platforms.js # Work on cordova-lib / plugman (plugman) : - platforms:Same as browser # Work on node-webkit platform - We can start using the cordova-browser platform - template: replace manifest.webapp by package.json - scripts: - clean: no changes - version: no changes - run: run nw using www folder as startup path - build: zip www folder to app.nw - create: copy template dir download node-webkit binaries based on platform and node-version - update: copy cordova-js download new node-webkit binaries - check_reqs: node-version = 0.10 Now I will details work to be done on plugins : # Battery-Status We can use the node-battery module (https://github.com/leon-vv/node-battery) # Camera We can use native function getUserMedia # Console No need as Chromium console is already great ! # Contacts VCARD parser ? # Device Platform: navigator.platform Model: node-webkit / + win32|mac|linux + (x64) Version: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Get-version-of-node-webkit-in-app Cordova:browser.cordovaVersion Uuid: Stored in DOM Storage # Accelerometer / Compass http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/device/orientation/ # Dialogs Custom Solution : HTML5 / Design adapted on each platforms ? Beep: https://github.com/feross/beepbeep # FileSystem Two choices : - Use native FileSystem API implemented in Chromium - Use node fs module # File Transfer - Use node request module # Geolocation Already implemented in Chromium # Globalization Use navigator + custom solution # InAppBrowser https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Mini-browser-in-iframe # Media HTML 5 Audio / Video Wrapper # Media Capture We can use native function getUserMedia # Network Information Same as Browser implementation # Splash screen Custom solution using : https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Window#openurl-options # Vibration Already implemented natively # Status Bar Can be used to control toolbar visibility. But don't think there is a real need since toolbar need a specific implementation. Wow ! I think it's a good global view to understand the work to be done to implement node-webkit into cordova. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks ! Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Tommy Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 04:22 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Might be able to help with this. We are pretty invested in Node-Webkit. On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts
RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
I echo the (classic) maintainer fear of abandonment (remember Symbian? Me either) ...but if ppl want to step up and own the platform this will be very well received. There is a low cost to finding out. So let's see where this goes. On Oct 18, 2014 12:10 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I'm really happy I'm not the only one to want this great platform integrated into cordova. If enough of us can be involved, we will be able to carry out this project. Since you asked me to not wait to start my research. Here are the results of my first analysis : Firstly our work will be simplified by three things : - We can reuse a lot of code from Browser platform. - Chromium implement many features natively, we only have to align these with our specs. - We have access to nodejs which is really easy to use and can perform a lot of tasks. Below, I will detail the work to be done by repository. # Work on cordova-js : - exec: same as Browser platform - platform: we should isolate nodejs's require function -- window.nodeRequire = window.require; -- window.require = null; # Work on cordova-lib / cordova (cordova-cli) : - parser: We can reuse browser_parser.js We have to create node-webkit specific package.json using update_from_config function - platforms:Just add the platform into platforms.js # Work on cordova-lib / plugman (plugman) : - platforms:Same as browser # Work on node-webkit platform - We can start using the cordova-browser platform - template: replace manifest.webapp by package.json - scripts: - clean: no changes - version: no changes - run: run nw using www folder as startup path - build: zip www folder to app.nw - create: copy template dir download node-webkit binaries based on platform and node-version - update: copy cordova-js download new node-webkit binaries - check_reqs: node-version = 0.10 Now I will details work to be done on plugins : # Battery-Status We can use the node-battery module ( https://github.com/leon-vv/node-battery) # Camera We can use native function getUserMedia # Console No need as Chromium console is already great ! # Contacts VCARD parser ? # Device Platform: navigator.platform Model: node-webkit / + win32|mac|linux + (x64) Version: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Get-version-of-node-webkit-in-app Cordova:browser.cordovaVersion Uuid: Stored in DOM Storage # Accelerometer / Compass http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/device/orientation/ # Dialogs Custom Solution : HTML5 / Design adapted on each platforms ? Beep: https://github.com/feross/beepbeep # FileSystem Two choices : - Use native FileSystem API implemented in Chromium - Use node fs module # File Transfer - Use node request module # Geolocation Already implemented in Chromium # Globalization Use navigator + custom solution # InAppBrowser https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Mini-browser-in-iframe # Media HTML 5 Audio / Video Wrapper # Media Capture We can use native function getUserMedia # Network Information Same as Browser implementation # Splash screen Custom solution using : https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Window#openurl-options # Vibration Already implemented natively # Status Bar Can be used to control toolbar visibility. But don't think there is a real need since toolbar need a specific implementation. Wow ! I think it's a good global view to understand the work to be done to implement node-webkit into cordova. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks ! Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Tommy Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 04:22 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Might be able to help with this. We are pretty invested in Node-Webkit. On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
+1 please step up and own this platform. I will help as much as I can, and retire cordova-osx in favour of this once it gets mature (don't you love deleting code!). Just make sure any code that is to be donated to Apache has the Apache v2 licenses or a compatible license (no GPL). On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I echo the (classic) maintainer fear of abandonment (remember Symbian? Me either) ...but if ppl want to step up and own the platform this will be very well received. There is a low cost to finding out. So let's see where this goes. On Oct 18, 2014 12:10 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I'm really happy I'm not the only one to want this great platform integrated into cordova. If enough of us can be involved, we will be able to carry out this project. Since you asked me to not wait to start my research. Here are the results of my first analysis : Firstly our work will be simplified by three things : - We can reuse a lot of code from Browser platform. - Chromium implement many features natively, we only have to align these with our specs. - We have access to nodejs which is really easy to use and can perform a lot of tasks. Below, I will detail the work to be done by repository. # Work on cordova-js : - exec: same as Browser platform - platform: we should isolate nodejs's require function -- window.nodeRequire = window.require; -- window.require = null; # Work on cordova-lib / cordova (cordova-cli) : - parser: We can reuse browser_parser.js We have to create node-webkit specific package.json using update_from_config function - platforms:Just add the platform into platforms.js # Work on cordova-lib / plugman (plugman) : - platforms:Same as browser # Work on node-webkit platform - We can start using the cordova-browser platform - template: replace manifest.webapp by package.json - scripts: - clean: no changes - version: no changes - run: run nw using www folder as startup path - build: zip www folder to app.nw - create: copy template dir download node-webkit binaries based on platform and node-version - update: copy cordova-js download new node-webkit binaries - check_reqs: node-version = 0.10 Now I will details work to be done on plugins : # Battery-Status We can use the node-battery module ( https://github.com/leon-vv/node-battery) # Camera We can use native function getUserMedia # Console No need as Chromium console is already great ! # Contacts VCARD parser ? # Device Platform: navigator.platform Model: node-webkit / + win32|mac|linux + (x64) Version: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Get-version-of-node-webkit-in-app Cordova:browser.cordovaVersion Uuid: Stored in DOM Storage # Accelerometer / Compass http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/device/orientation/ # Dialogs Custom Solution : HTML5 / Design adapted on each platforms ? Beep: https://github.com/feross/beepbeep # FileSystem Two choices : - Use native FileSystem API implemented in Chromium - Use node fs module # File Transfer - Use node request module # Geolocation Already implemented in Chromium # Globalization Use navigator + custom solution # InAppBrowser https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Mini-browser-in-iframe # Media HTML 5 Audio / Video Wrapper # Media Capture We can use native function getUserMedia # Network Information Same as Browser implementation # Splash screen Custom solution using : https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Window#openurl-options # Vibration Already implemented natively # Status Bar Can be used to control toolbar visibility. But don't think there is a real need since toolbar need a specific implementation. Wow ! I think it's a good global view to understand the work to be done to implement node-webkit into cordova. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks ! Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Tommy Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 04:22 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Might be able to help with this. We are pretty invested in Node-Webkit. On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct
RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Brian, I think node-webkit is a durable platform, it has a long roadmap either with node 0.12 already planned. Moreover, it's a simple platform since it implements a lot of Cordova features natively and node integration will make the work simpler than many platforms like Symbian :). I think we do not need more than three persons to maintain this project. I will make some tries in my repositories based on the report I made. Based on this, we can estimate how hard it would be to implement and maintain this platform. I will let you know about my progress during the coming week. Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] De la part de Brian LeRoux Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 22:30 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform I echo the (classic) maintainer fear of abandonment (remember Symbian? Me either) ...but if ppl want to step up and own the platform this will be very well received. There is a low cost to finding out. So let's see where this goes. On Oct 18, 2014 12:10 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I'm really happy I'm not the only one to want this great platform integrated into cordova. If enough of us can be involved, we will be able to carry out this project. Since you asked me to not wait to start my research. Here are the results of my first analysis : Firstly our work will be simplified by three things : - We can reuse a lot of code from Browser platform. - Chromium implement many features natively, we only have to align these with our specs. - We have access to nodejs which is really easy to use and can perform a lot of tasks. Below, I will detail the work to be done by repository. # Work on cordova-js : - exec: same as Browser platform - platform: we should isolate nodejs's require function -- window.nodeRequire = window.require; -- window.require = null; # Work on cordova-lib / cordova (cordova-cli) : - parser: We can reuse browser_parser.js We have to create node-webkit specific package.json using update_from_config function - platforms:Just add the platform into platforms.js # Work on cordova-lib / plugman (plugman) : - platforms:Same as browser # Work on node-webkit platform - We can start using the cordova-browser platform - template: replace manifest.webapp by package.json - scripts: - clean: no changes - version: no changes - run: run nw using www folder as startup path - build: zip www folder to app.nw - create: copy template dir download node-webkit binaries based on platform and node-version - update: copy cordova-js download new node-webkit binaries - check_reqs: node-version = 0.10 Now I will details work to be done on plugins : # Battery-Status We can use the node-battery module ( https://github.com/leon-vv/node-battery) # Camera We can use native function getUserMedia # Console No need as Chromium console is already great ! # Contacts VCARD parser ? # Device Platform: navigator.platform Model: node-webkit / + win32|mac|linux + (x64) Version: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Get-version-of-node-webkit-in-app Cordova:browser.cordovaVersion Uuid: Stored in DOM Storage # Accelerometer / Compass http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/device/orientation/ # Dialogs Custom Solution : HTML5 / Design adapted on each platforms ? Beep: https://github.com/feross/beepbeep # FileSystem Two choices : - Use native FileSystem API implemented in Chromium - Use node fs module # File Transfer - Use node request module # Geolocation Already implemented in Chromium # Globalization Use navigator + custom solution # InAppBrowser https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Mini-browser-in-iframe # Media HTML 5 Audio / Video Wrapper # Media Capture We can use native function getUserMedia # Network Information Same as Browser implementation # Splash screen Custom solution using : https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Window#openurl-options # Vibration Already implemented natively # Status Bar Can be used to control toolbar visibility. But don't think there is a real need since toolbar need a specific implementation. Wow ! I think it's a good global view to understand the work to be done to implement node-webkit into cordova. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks ! Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Tommy Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] Envoyé : samedi 18
Adding node-webkit as a platform
Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Moreover, it should be easy to develop since Chromium implement many features and we could use node to implement other features. I will investigate on how this could be possible... Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Dick Van den Brink [mailto:d_vandenbr...@outlook.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:04 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
+1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform
Might be able to help with this. We are pretty invested in Node-Webkit. On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, but given the recent version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and report back. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: I understand your thoughts... The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we can't add support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). We could try to simplify the process to work with custom platform outside the main distribution. Maxime LUCE Touchify, CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -Message d'origine- De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform official? If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go for it. Here's my random thoughts ... I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, although no one knows about it. Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + plugman + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be better, especially if they aren't maintained. [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient (without cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with node-webkit would be a cool idea! Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org Hi everyone, I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a platform for cordova. It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS X and Linux. It could also be a way to debug complex applications without any simulators. I really want to target this platform and for now I need to create a separate project. Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) would be a great productivity improvement. I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target Destkop platforms. What do you think ? Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co
