RE: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-25 Thread Tim Barham
I'd like to get input on how 'cordova platform save' and 'cordova plugin save' 
commands (that save information about all installed platforms or plugins to 
config.xml) should work with regard to modifying existing version information 
in config.xml.

(Background: I'm updating the --save option when adding/updating a specific 
platform or plugin to always write out the version being installed, using the 
"^x.x.x" notation. Consistent with 'npm install', I update an existing entry 
even if its version string would match what we're installing - so if the 
existing entry is '^3.2.1' and I'm installing '3.2.2', I update the entry to 
'^3.2.2').

My question is: Should we do the same with the 'platform save' and 'plugin 
save' commands: if there is an existing entry with a version that matches the 
version that's installed, do we update it or leave it alone?

My feeling is to update it, since that behavior would be consistent with the 
--save flag. But an argument could also be made that we should leave it alone 
in this scenario.

Thanks!

Tim


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[agri...@chromium.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:44 PM
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Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

That's what we already do (CPR *is* an npm database)

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Michal Mocny  wrote:

> ..Also with the move to put plugins in npm, I think we would be directly
> using npm's resolution of the version?
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Grieve 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Gorkem Ercan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 Mar 2015, at 18:38, Tim Barham wrote:
> > >
> > >  +1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version
> > >> upgrades).
> > >>
> > >>  I like Andrew's idea, my only concern is implementing only a portion
> of
> > > the semver syntax. I personally would assume full semver support after
> > > seeing "^1.2.3" notation on config.xml
> >
> > I think we do already support all semver? Just tried:
> >cordova plugin add "cordova-plugin-okhttp@>1 <3"
> >  and it worked fine.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to
> make
> > >> this change while I'm there.
> > >>
> > >>  Sure, go ahead. I would not be able to get to it until next week.
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >> From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> > >>
> > >> Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > >> nikhi...@microsoft.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> > >>> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we
> plan
> > to
> > >>> move to npm.
> > >>>
> > >>> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing
> minor
> > >>> version upgrades to be automatic.
> > >>>
> > >>> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> > >>> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> > >>> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our
> > >>> --shrinkwrap
> > >>> option does that.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Nikhil
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> > >>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  > >>> This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved
> > >>> before.
> > >>>
> > >>> Byoungro So
> > >>> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Inte

Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-25 Thread Andrew Grieve
That's what we already do (CPR *is* an npm database)

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Michal Mocny  wrote:

> ..Also with the move to put plugins in npm, I think we would be directly
> using npm's resolution of the version?
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Grieve 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Gorkem Ercan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 Mar 2015, at 18:38, Tim Barham wrote:
> > >
> > >  +1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version
> > >> upgrades).
> > >>
> > >>  I like Andrew's idea, my only concern is implementing only a portion
> of
> > > the semver syntax. I personally would assume full semver support after
> > > seeing "^1.2.3" notation on config.xml
> >
> > I think we do already support all semver? Just tried:
> >cordova plugin add "cordova-plugin-okhttp@>1 <3"
> >  and it worked fine.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to
> make
> > >> this change while I'm there.
> > >>
> > >>  Sure, go ahead. I would not be able to get to it until next week.
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >> From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> > >>
> > >> Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > >> nikhi...@microsoft.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> > >>> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we
> plan
> > to
> > >>> move to npm.
> > >>>
> > >>> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing
> minor
> > >>> version upgrades to be automatic.
> > >>>
> > >>> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> > >>> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> > >>> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our
> > >>> --shrinkwrap
> > >>> option does that.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Nikhil
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> > >>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  > >>> This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved
> > >>> before.
> > >>>
> > >>> Byoungro So
> > >>> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
> > >>>> because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
> > >>>> shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Gorkem
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  They are related but not same.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during
> "cordova
> > >>>>>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
> > >>>>>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This
> behaviour
> > >>>>>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible versi

Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Michal Mocny
..Also with the move to put plugins in npm, I think we would be directly
using npm's resolution of the version?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Grieve  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Gorkem Ercan 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 24 Mar 2015, at 18:38, Tim Barham wrote:
> >
> >  +1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version
> >> upgrades).
> >>
> >>  I like Andrew's idea, my only concern is implementing only a portion of
> > the semver syntax. I personally would assume full semver support after
> > seeing "^1.2.3" notation on config.xml
>
> I think we do already support all semver? Just tried:
>cordova plugin add "cordova-plugin-okhttp@>1 <3"
>  and it worked fine.
>
>
> >
> >
> >  Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to make
> >> this change while I'm there.
> >>
> >>  Sure, go ahead. I would not be able to get to it until next week.
> >
> >
> >  ________
> >> From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
> >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> >>
> >> Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> >> nikhi...@microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> >>> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan
> to
> >>> move to npm.
> >>>
> >>> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor
> >>> version upgrades to be automatic.
> >>>
> >>> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> >>> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> >>> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our
> >>> --shrinkwrap
> >>> option does that.
> >>>
> >>> -Nikhil
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> >>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> >>>
> >>> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  >>> This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved
> >>> before.
> >>>
> >>> Byoungro So
> >>> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
> >>>> because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
> >>>> shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Gorkem
> >>>>
> >>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  They are related but not same.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
> >>>>>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
> >>>>>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour
> >>>>>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
> >>>>>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
> >>>>> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
> >>>>> changes?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
> >>>>>> version information

Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Andrew Grieve
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Gorkem Ercan 
wrote:

>
>
> On 24 Mar 2015, at 18:38, Tim Barham wrote:
>
>  +1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version
>> upgrades).
>>
>>  I like Andrew's idea, my only concern is implementing only a portion of
> the semver syntax. I personally would assume full semver support after
> seeing "^1.2.3" notation on config.xml

I think we do already support all semver? Just tried:
   cordova plugin add "cordova-plugin-okhttp@>1 <3"
 and it worked fine.


>
>
>  Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to make
>> this change while I'm there.
>>
>>  Sure, go ahead. I would not be able to get to it until next week.
>
>
>  
>> From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
>>
>> Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> nikhi...@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
>>> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan to
>>> move to npm.
>>>
>>> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor
>>> version upgrades to be automatic.
>>>
>>> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
>>> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
>>> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our
>>> --shrinkwrap
>>> option does that.
>>>
>>> -Nikhil
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
>>>
>>> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the >> This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved
>>> before.
>>>
>>> Byoungro So
>>> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
>>>> because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
>>>> shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
>>>> --
>>>> Gorkem
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  They are related but not same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
>>>>>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
>>>>>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour
>>>>>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
>>>>>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
>>>>> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
>>>>> changes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
>>>>>> version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is
>>>>>> missing that information. It is a bug.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gorkem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>&g

Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Gorkem Ercan



On 24 Mar 2015, at 18:38, Tim Barham wrote:

+1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version 
upgrades).


I like Andrew's idea, my only concern is implementing only a portion of 
the semver syntax. I personally would assume full semver support after 
seeing "^1.2.3" notation on config.xml


Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to 
make this change while I'm there.



Sure, go ahead. I would not be able to get to it until next week.



From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal 


wrote:


I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we 
plan to

move to npm.

I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing 
minor

version upgrades to be automatic.

As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our 
--shrinkwrap

option does that.

-Nikhil

-Original Message-
From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

+1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved 
before.


Byoungro So
SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation






On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:



I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
--
Gorkem

On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan

wrote:


They are related but not same.

CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during 
"cordova

plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This 
behaviour

allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.



How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but 
save
it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major 
version

changes?





As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is
missing that information. It is a bug.
--
Gorkem

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden

wrote:


Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales

wrote:



Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the 
fetch.json.

That

needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the

config.xml.

It
should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a 
jira

item

for

this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a
pull
request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If
someone

could

review it and provide any feedback.

Thanks,
Edna Morales




--



=
===
===

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Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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RE: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Barham
+1 from me too (always save version, and allow automatic minor version 
upgrades).

Gorkem - I'm currently doing some work in this area - I'm happy to make this 
change while I'm there.


From: Steven Gill [stevengil...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:20 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal 
wrote:

> I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan to
> move to npm.
>
> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor
> version upgrades to be automatic.
>
> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our --shrinkwrap
> option does that.
>
> -Nikhil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
>
> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved before.
>
> Byoungro So
> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
>
> >
> >I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
> >because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
> >shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
> >--
> >Gorkem
> >
> >On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> They are related but not same.
> >>>
> >>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
> >>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
> >>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour
> >>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
> >>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
> >>>
> >>
> >> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
> >> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
> >> changes?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
> >>> version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is
> >>> missing that information. It is a bug.
> >>> --
> >>> Gorkem
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales
> >>>> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
> >>> That
> >>>>> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
> >>> config.xml.
> >>>> It
> >>>>> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira
> >>>>> item
> >>>> for
> >>>>> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a
> >>>>> pull
> >>>>> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If
> >>>>> someone
> >>>> could
> >>>>> review it and provide any feedback.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Edna Morales
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>=
> >>>===
> >>>===
> >>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>
> >>>> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com
> >>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
> >>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Michal Mocny
Another +1 to do-as-npm-does.  Both because of existing developer
expectations, and because the trend is to move towards npm-isms and it
would be a disservice down the road to change the behaviour.  Any fork from
what npm does should have a strong reason, and not just a
prefer-it-this-way, imho.

-Michal

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Steven Gill  wrote:

> Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal  >
> wrote:
>
> > I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> > expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan to
> > move to npm.
> >
> > I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor
> > version upgrades to be automatic.
> >
> > As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> > numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> > https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our
> --shrinkwrap
> > option does that.
> >
> > -Nikhil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
> >
> > +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  > This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved
> before.
> >
> > Byoungro So
> > SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
> > >because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
> > >shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
> > >--
> > >Gorkem
> > >
> > >On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
> > >> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> They are related but not same.
> > >>>
> > >>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
> > >>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
> > >>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour
> > >>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
> > >>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
> > >> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
> > >> changes?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
> > >>> version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is
> > >>> missing that information. It is a bug.
> > >>> --
> > >>> Gorkem
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden
> > >>> 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
> > >>> That
> > >>>>> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
> > >>> config.xml.
> > >>>> It
> > >>>>> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira
> > >>>>> item
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a
> > >>>>> pull
> > >>>>> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If
> > >>>>> someone
> > >>>> could
> > >>>>> review it and provide any feedback.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Edna Morales
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>=
> > >>>===
> > >>>===
> > >>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com
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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Steven Gill
Definitely agree with alignment with npm's save! :D

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal 
wrote:

> I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we
> expect developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan to
> move to npm.
>
> I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor
> version upgrades to be automatic.
>
> As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version
> numbers of all modules and their dependencies:
> https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It does not look our --shrinkwrap
> option does that.
>
> -Nikhil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions
>
> +1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved before.
>
> Byoungro So
> SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers Intel Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:
>
> >
> >I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected
> >because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make
> >shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
> >--
> >Gorkem
> >
> >On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> They are related but not same.
> >>>
> >>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
> >>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the
> >>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour
> >>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version
> >>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
> >>>
> >>
> >> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
> >> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
> >> changes?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
> >>> version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is
> >>> missing that information. It is a bug.
> >>> --
> >>> Gorkem
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales
> >>>> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
> >>> That
> >>>>> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
> >>> config.xml.
> >>>> It
> >>>>> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira
> >>>>> item
> >>>> for
> >>>>> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a
> >>>>> pull
> >>>>> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If
> >>>>> someone
> >>>> could
> >>>>> review it and provide any feedback.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Edna Morales
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>=
> >>>===
> >>>===
> >>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>
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RE: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Nikhil Khandelwal
I'm in favor of alignment of 'plugin save' behavior with npm's as we expect 
developers to already familiar with that and in future, we plan to move to npm.

I liked Andrew's idea of adding a specific version with allowing minor version 
upgrades to be automatic.

As for shrink wrapping, for npm this means locking down the version numbers of 
all modules and their dependencies: https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/shrinkwrap . It 
does not look our --shrinkwrap option does that.

-Nikhil

-Original Message-
From: So, Byoungro [mailto:byoungro...@intel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:40 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

+1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the  wrote:

>
>I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected 
>because platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make 
>shrinkwrap default and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
>--
>Gorkem
>
>On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They are related but not same.
>>>
>>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova 
>>> plugin add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the 
>>> command is "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour 
>>> allows plugins to be restored to the latest possible version 
>>> available if they are not explicitly shrinkwrapped.
>>>
>>
>> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save 
>> it as "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version 
>> changes?
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the 
>>> version information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is 
>>> missing that information. It is a bug.
>>> --
>>> Gorkem
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
>>> That
>>>>> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
>>> config.xml.
>>>> It
>>>>> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira 
>>>>> item
>>>> for
>>>>> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a 
>>>>> pull
>>>>> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If 
>>>>> someone
>>>> could
>>>>> review it and provide any feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Edna Morales
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>> 
>>>=
>>>===
>>>===
>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>
>>>> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com
>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>
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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread So, Byoungro
+1 for making the shrinkwrap as the default for the ‹save.
This makes sure the users will restore the same version they saved before.

Byoungro So
SSG / DPD / Mobile Computing and Compilers
Intel Corporation






On 3/24/15, 12:31 PM, "Gorkem Ercan"  wrote:

>
>I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected because
>platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make shrinkwrap default
>and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
>--
>Gorkem
>
>On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They are related but not same.
>>>
>>> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova
>>> plugin
>>> add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the command is
>>> "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour allows
>>> plugins to
>>> be restored to the latest possible version available if they are not
>>> explicitly shrinkwrapped.
>>>
>>
>> How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save
>> it as
>> "^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version
>> changes?
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the
>>> version
>>> information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is missing
>>> that
>>> information. It is a bug.
>>> --
>>> Gorkem
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales
 
 wrote:
>
>
> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
>>> That
> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
>>> config.xml.
 It
> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira
> item
 for
> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a
> pull
> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone
 could
> review it and provide any feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Edna Morales



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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Gorkem Ercan


I think the problem here is shrinkwrap behaviour is the expected because
platforms behave that way. I guess we could just make shrinkwrap default
and change the flag to --noshrinkwrap.
--
Gorkem

On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:58, Andrew Grieve wrote:

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan 


wrote:


They are related but not same.

CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova 
plugin

add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the command is
"cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour allows 
plugins to

be restored to the latest possible version available if they are not
explicitly shrinkwrapped.



How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save 
it as
"^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version 
changes?






As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the 
version
information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is missing 
that

information. It is a bug.
--
Gorkem

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden 


wrote:


Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales 


wrote:



Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.

That

needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the

config.xml.

It
should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira 
item

for
this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a 
pull

request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone

could

review it and provide any feedback.

Thanks,
Edna Morales




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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Andrew Grieve
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gorkem Ercan 
wrote:

> They are related but not same.
>
> CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova plugin
> add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the command is
> "cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour allows plugins to
> be restored to the latest possible version available if they are not
> explicitly shrinkwrapped.
>

How about doing what npm does, and always save the version, but save it as
"^1.0.3", so that you still get updates, but not major version changes?



>
> As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the version
> information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is missing that
> information. It is a bug.
> --
> Gorkem
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
>
> > Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json.
> That
> > > needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the
> config.xml.
> > It
> > > should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira item
> > for
> > > this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a pull
> > > request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone
> > could
> > > review it and provide any feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Edna Morales
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Gorkem Ercan
They are related but not same.

CB-8594 asks to save the plugin version information during "cordova plugin
add --save". Right now we do not save version unless the command is
"cordova plugin add --save --shrinkwrap". This behaviour allows plugins to
be restored to the latest possible version available if they are not
explicitly shrinkwrapped.

As for CB-8733, "cordova plugin save" command can not save the version
information even if it had wanted to because fetch.json is missing that
information. It is a bug.
--
Gorkem

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Camden 
wrote:

> Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json. That
> > needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the config.xml.
> It
> > should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira item
> for
> > this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a pull
> > request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone
> could
> > review it and provide any feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Edna Morales
>
>
>
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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Edna Y Morales

Ah yes. Looks like it.

Thanks,
Edna Morales



From:   Raymond Camden 
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Date:   03/24/2015 11:30 AM
Subject:Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions



Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales 
wrote:
>
>
> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json. That
> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the config.xml.
It
> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira item
for
> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a pull
> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone could
> review it and provide any feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Edna Morales



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Re: 'cordova plugin save' should also save plugin versions

2015-03-24 Thread Raymond Camden
Is that a dupe of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8594?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Edna Y Morales  wrote:
>
>
> Currently, version info is not saved for plugins in the fetch.json. That
> needs to be added so that plugin version can be saved in the config.xml. It
> should follow what 'cordova platform save' does. I created a jira item for
> this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8733 and opened a pull
> request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/189. If someone could
> review it and provide any feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Edna Morales



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