Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Brooks
No worries about the response time Dmitry! It's easy to update the DNS, so
just ping me when you've simplified the URI!

Michael

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Andrew Grieve  wrote:

> Yep, change away! David used to maintain this for us, and we haven't picked
> it up again since he left the team.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Dmitry Blotsky 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Thank you for making the change! Sorry for my lack of input: I was
> offline
> > for a week. I was going to mention that perhaps some of Google's Cordova
> > folks (Andrew Grieve, Ian Clelland, et al.) might have had issues with
> > changing the domain from their Buildbot installation, but they haven't
> > responded, so I guess we can presume that they don't mind. However, I
> think
> > now it would be worth the effort to port the Chrome Mobile Apps platform
> > stuff to the master medic. @AGrieve, @IClelland: thoughts? Is mobilespec
> > the way you folks test the platform?
> >
> > Also, I just realized that the redirect URI we provided was a bit rigid
> > since it has verbatim builder names. I'll look into how to configure it
> so
> > that the redirect URI becomes:
> > http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?project=cordova. I will send a mail once
> > that's done. If it's convenient for you, once I make that change, may we
> > please have the redirect switch to that URI?
> >
> > And thanks again for making the change! Now the Cordova project has a
> > unified and easy-to-access CI on Apache infrastructure! :D
> >
> > Kindly,
> > Dmitry
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Michael Brooks
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 11:49 AM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
> >
> > Since there were no objections, I've updated ci.cordova.io to 302
> > redirect to the Apache CI service:
> >
> >
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jesse  wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to the redirect, and doing it on April Fools Day!
> > >
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > risingj.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Michael Brooks
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Nikhil,
> > > >
> > > > I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted
> > > setup.
> > > > This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs
> > > > (and
> > > > infra) are of Apache ownership.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on
> > > Wednesday
> > > > if there is no objection.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > nikhi...@microsoft.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note,
> > > > > who
> > > owns
> > > > > http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot.
> > > > > There
> > > is
> > > > > a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url
> :
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-and
> > > roid-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-a
> > > ndroid-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-w
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above
> > > version
> > > > > instead?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Nikhil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > Michael Brooks
> >

Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-04-07 Thread Andrew Grieve
Yep, change away! David used to maintain this for us, and we haven't picked
it up again since he left the team.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Dmitry Blotsky 
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Thank you for making the change! Sorry for my lack of input: I was offline
> for a week. I was going to mention that perhaps some of Google's Cordova
> folks (Andrew Grieve, Ian Clelland, et al.) might have had issues with
> changing the domain from their Buildbot installation, but they haven't
> responded, so I guess we can presume that they don't mind. However, I think
> now it would be worth the effort to port the Chrome Mobile Apps platform
> stuff to the master medic. @AGrieve, @IClelland: thoughts? Is mobilespec
> the way you folks test the platform?
>
> Also, I just realized that the redirect URI we provided was a bit rigid
> since it has verbatim builder names. I'll look into how to configure it so
> that the redirect URI becomes:
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?project=cordova. I will send a mail once
> that's done. If it's convenient for you, once I make that change, may we
> please have the redirect switch to that URI?
>
> And thanks again for making the change! Now the Cordova project has a
> unified and easy-to-access CI on Apache infrastructure! :D
>
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Brooks
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 11:49 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
>
> Since there were no objections, I've updated ci.cordova.io to 302
> redirect to the Apache CI service:
>
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jesse  wrote:
>
> > +1 to the redirect, and doing it on April Fools Day!
> >
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Michael Brooks
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Nikhil,
> > >
> > > I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted
> > setup.
> > > This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs
> > > (and
> > > infra) are of Apache ownership.
> > >
> > > Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on
> > Wednesday
> > > if there is no objection.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > nikhi...@microsoft.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note,
> > > > who
> > owns
> > > > http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
> > > >
> > > > It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot.
> > > > There
> > is
> > > > a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url :
> > > >
> > >
> > http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-and
> > roid-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-a
> > ndroid-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-w
> > in
> > > >
> > > > Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above
> > version
> > > > instead?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Nikhil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > Michael Brooks
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dmitry,
> > > >
> > > > I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains,
> > > > the general rules within Apache are:
> > > >
> > > > 1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
> > > > cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask
> it.
> > > > This ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache
> > > project.
> > > > We do this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cord

RE: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-04-06 Thread Dmitry Blotsky
Hi Michael,

Thank you for making the change! Sorry for my lack of input: I was offline for 
a week. I was going to mention that perhaps some of Google's Cordova folks 
(Andrew Grieve, Ian Clelland, et al.) might have had issues with changing the 
domain from their Buildbot installation, but they haven't responded, so I guess 
we can presume that they don't mind. However, I think now it would be worth the 
effort to port the Chrome Mobile Apps platform stuff to the master medic. 
@AGrieve, @IClelland: thoughts? Is mobilespec the way you folks test the 
platform?

Also, I just realized that the redirect URI we provided was a bit rigid since 
it has verbatim builder names. I'll look into how to configure it so that the 
redirect URI becomes: http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?project=cordova. I will 
send a mail once that's done. If it's convenient for you, once I make that 
change, may we please have the redirect switch to that URI?

And thanks again for making the change! Now the Cordova project has a unified 
and easy-to-access CI on Apache infrastructure! :D

Kindly,
Dmitry

-Original Message-
From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 11:49 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

Since there were no objections, I've updated ci.cordova.io to 302 redirect to 
the Apache CI service:
http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win

Cheers,
Michael

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jesse  wrote:

> +1 to the redirect, and doing it on April Fools Day!
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Michael Brooks 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Nikhil,
> >
> > I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted
> setup.
> > This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs 
> > (and
> > infra) are of Apache ownership.
> >
> > Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on
> Wednesday
> > if there is no objection.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> nikhi...@microsoft.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note, 
> > > who
> owns
> > > http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
> > >
> > > It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot. 
> > > There
> is
> > > a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url :
> > >
> >
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-and
> roid-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-a
> ndroid-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-w
> in
> > >
> > > Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above
> version
> > > instead?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nikhil
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On 
> > > Behalf
> > Of
> > > Michael Brooks
> > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
> > >
> > > Hi Dmitry,
> > >
> > > I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, 
> > > the general rules within Apache are:
> > >
> > > 1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
> > > cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it.
> > > This ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache
> > project.
> > > We do this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io
> > >
> > > 2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party
> domain
> > > because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay.
> apachecordova.io
> > > is misleading.
> > >
> > > For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
> > > During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the 
> > > cordova.io domain. In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the 
> > > official Apache Cordova domain (CNAME style like Github Page). 
> > > However, after talking
> > with
> > > our Apache mentor, I learned what I stated above (redirect and 

Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Brooks
Since there were no objections, I've updated ci.cordova.io to 302 redirect
to the Apache CI service:
http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win

Cheers,
Michael

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jesse  wrote:

> +1 to the redirect, and doing it on April Fools Day!
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Michael Brooks 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Nikhil,
> >
> > I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted
> setup.
> > This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs (and
> > infra) are of Apache ownership.
> >
> > Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on
> Wednesday
> > if there is no objection.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
> nikhi...@microsoft.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note, who
> owns
> > > http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
> > >
> > > It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot. There
> is
> > > a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url :
> > >
> >
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win
> > >
> > > Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above
> version
> > > instead?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nikhil
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Michael Brooks
> > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
> > >
> > > Hi Dmitry,
> > >
> > > I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, the
> > > general rules within Apache are:
> > >
> > > 1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
> > > cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it.
> > > This ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache
> > project.
> > > We do this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io
> > >
> > > 2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party
> domain
> > > because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay.
> apachecordova.io
> > > is misleading.
> > >
> > > For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
> > > During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the cordova.io
> > > domain. In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the official Apache
> > > Cordova domain (CNAME style like Github Page). However, after talking
> > with
> > > our Apache mentor, I learned what I stated above (redirect and make it
> > > clear that the domain is not apache property). Regardless, I decided to
> > > keep the domain around because it's shorter, verbally easier to spread
> by
> > > word-of-mouth (e.g. docs.cordova.io), and cleaner for presentation
> slide
> > > decks.
> > >
> > > The entire Adobe team has access to the DNS management of the domain.
> If
> > > anyone else on the Apache Cordova project would like to add a
> subdomain,
> > > I'm all for it! Likewise, if you want a subdomain removed, let's talk
> > about
> > > i!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Soref 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,
> > > >
> > > > it's a bug in our registry-web repository.
> > > >
> > > > you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).
> > > >
> > > > once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone
> > > > will know how to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this
> well,
> > > > I know Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got
> > > lost.
> > > >
> > > > I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this
> > > > until after spring.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?
> > > >
> > > > Hi list,
> > > >
> > > > This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they
> apparently
> > > > don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
> > > >
> > > > Kindly,
> > > > Dmitry
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-30 Thread Jesse
+1 to the redirect, and doing it on April Fools Day!


@purplecabbage
risingj.com

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Michael Brooks 
wrote:

> Hi Nikhil,
>
> I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted setup.
> This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs (and
> infra) are of Apache ownership.
>
> Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on Wednesday
> if there is no objection.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal  >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note, who owns
> > http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
> >
> > It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot. There is
> > a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url :
> >
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win
> >
> > Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above version
> > instead?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nikhil
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Michael Brooks
> > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
> >
> > Hi Dmitry,
> >
> > I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, the
> > general rules within Apache are:
> >
> > 1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
> > cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it.
> > This ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache
> project.
> > We do this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io
> >
> > 2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party domain
> > because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay. apachecordova.io
> > is misleading.
> >
> > For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
> > During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the cordova.io
> > domain. In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the official Apache
> > Cordova domain (CNAME style like Github Page). However, after talking
> with
> > our Apache mentor, I learned what I stated above (redirect and make it
> > clear that the domain is not apache property). Regardless, I decided to
> > keep the domain around because it's shorter, verbally easier to spread by
> > word-of-mouth (e.g. docs.cordova.io), and cleaner for presentation slide
> > decks.
> >
> > The entire Adobe team has access to the DNS management of the domain. If
> > anyone else on the Apache Cordova project would like to add a subdomain,
> > I'm all for it! Likewise, if you want a subdomain removed, let's talk
> about
> > i!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Soref 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,
> > >
> > > it's a bug in our registry-web repository.
> > >
> > > you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).
> > >
> > > once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone
> > > will know how to fix it.
> > >
> > > On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this well,
> > > I know Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got
> > lost.
> > >
> > > I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this
> > > until after spring.
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?
> > >
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently
> > > don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
> > >
> > > Kindly,
> > > Dmitry
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-30 Thread Michael Brooks
Hi Nikhil,

I can update the DNS to redirect ci.cordova.io to the Apache hosted setup.
This would be more aligned with their desire to ensure that all URLs (and
infra) are of Apache ownership.

Anyone object with updating ci.cordova.io? I'll do the update on Wednesday
if there is no objection.

Cheers,
Michael

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal 
wrote:

> Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note, who owns
> http://ci.cordova.io/ ?
>
> It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot. There is
> a newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url :
> http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win
>
> Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above version
> instead?
>
> Thanks,
> Nikhil
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Brooks
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?
>
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, the
> general rules within Apache are:
>
> 1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
> cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it.
> This ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache project.
> We do this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io
>
> 2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party domain
> because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay. apachecordova.io
> is misleading.
>
> For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
> During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the cordova.io
> domain. In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the official Apache
> Cordova domain (CNAME style like Github Page). However, after talking with
> our Apache mentor, I learned what I stated above (redirect and make it
> clear that the domain is not apache property). Regardless, I decided to
> keep the domain around because it's shorter, verbally easier to spread by
> word-of-mouth (e.g. docs.cordova.io), and cleaner for presentation slide
> decks.
>
> The entire Adobe team has access to the DNS management of the domain. If
> anyone else on the Apache Cordova project would like to add a subdomain,
> I'm all for it! Likewise, if you want a subdomain removed, let's talk about
> i!
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Soref 
> wrote:
>
> > this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,
> >
> > it's a bug in our registry-web repository.
> >
> > you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).
> >
> > once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone
> > will know how to fix it.
> >
> > On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this well,
> > I know Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.
> >
> > I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got
> lost.
> >
> > I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this
> > until after spring.
> >
> > 
> > From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently
> > don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
> >
> > Kindly,
> > Dmitry
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
> >
> >
>


RE: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-27 Thread Nikhil Khandelwal
Thanks, Michael for the detailed information. On a related note, who owns 
http://ci.cordova.io/ ? 

It seems to be running an old/stale version of medic + BuildBot. There is a 
newer version now hosted on Apache Infra but it's got a long url : 
http://ci.apache.org/waterfall?builder=cordova-ios&builder=cordova-android-osx&builder=cordova-windows&builder=cordova-wp8&builder=cordova-android-win&builder=cordova-blackberry-osx&builder=cordova-blackberry-win

Wonder if there is a way for ci.cordova.io to point to the above version 
instead? 

Thanks,
Nikhil


-Original Message-
From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Brooks
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:18 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

Hi Dmitry,

I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, the general 
rules within Apache are:

1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it. This 
ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache project. We do 
this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io

2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party domain 
because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay. apachecordova.io is 
misleading.

For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the cordova.io domain. 
In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the official Apache Cordova domain 
(CNAME style like Github Page). However, after talking with our Apache mentor, 
I learned what I stated above (redirect and make it clear that the domain is 
not apache property). Regardless, I decided to keep the domain around because 
it's shorter, verbally easier to spread by word-of-mouth (e.g. 
docs.cordova.io), and cleaner for presentation slide decks.

The entire Adobe team has access to the DNS management of the domain. If anyone 
else on the Apache Cordova project would like to add a subdomain, I'm all for 
it! Likewise, if you want a subdomain removed, let's talk about i!

Cheers,
Michael

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Soref  wrote:

> this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,
>
> it's a bug in our registry-web repository.
>
> you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).
>
> once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone 
> will know how to fix it.
>
> On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this well, 
> I know Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.
>
> I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got lost.
>
> I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this 
> until after spring.
>
> 
> From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?
>
> Hi list,
>
> This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently 
> don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
>
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
>
>


Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael Brooks
Hi Dmitry,

I own and pay for the cordova.io domain. When it comes to domains, the
general rules within Apache are:

1. cordova.io URLs that point to official Apache resources (e.g.
cordova.apache.org) must redirect to the official URL and not mask it. This
ensures that the project is recognized as an official Apache project. We do
this for cordova.io, docs.cordova.io, and issues.cordova.io

2. Apache prefers to not have the word "apache" in the third-party domain
because ownership can be deceiving. cordova.io is okay. apachecordova.io is
misleading.

For those interested, I'll describe some of the history of cordova.io.
During the donation of PhoneGap to Apache, I registered the cordova.io
domain. In my naivety, I thought we could use it as the official Apache
Cordova domain (CNAME style like Github Page). However, after talking with
our Apache mentor, I learned what I stated above (redirect and make it
clear that the domain is not apache property). Regardless, I decided to
keep the domain around because it's shorter, verbally easier to spread by
word-of-mouth (e.g. docs.cordova.io), and cleaner for presentation slide
decks.

The entire Adobe team has access to the DNS management of the domain. If
anyone else on the Apache Cordova project would like to add a subdomain,
I'm all for it! Likewise, if you want a subdomain removed, let's talk about
i!

Cheers,
Michael

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Soref  wrote:

> this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,
>
> it's a bug in our registry-web repository.
>
> you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).
>
> once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone will
> know how to fix it.
>
> On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this well, I
> know Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.
>
> I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got lost.
>
> I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this until
> after spring.
>
> 
> From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?
>
> Hi list,
>
> This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently
> don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
>
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
>
>


RE: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-26 Thread Josh Soref
this has nothing to do w/ cordova.io domaining,

it's a bug in our registry-web repository.

you're encouraged to work on it (it is filed).

once a fix is provided for it (it's a escape/unescape loop), someone will know 
how to fix it.

On the other side, all of the browser vendors should handle this well, I know 
Chrome crashes, which is a bug in chrome.

I'm sorry for everyone. but i've lost a few days debugging it and got lost.

I'm also ill, and don't have any more resources to invest on this until after 
spring.


From: Dmitry Blotsky [dblot...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:39 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Who Runs cordova.io?

Hi list,

This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra - 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently don't 
have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?

Kindly,
Dmitry

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Re: Who Runs cordova.io?

2015-03-26 Thread Jesse
We do :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8141


@purplecabbage
risingj.com

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Dmitry Blotsky 
wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> This issue just came up on JIRA for Apache Infra -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9349 - but they apparently
> don't have the ruling power over cordova.io. Who governs cordova.io?
>
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
>