Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
Not as untenable a thought as you suggest; there are a great many devs out there considering iOS 7 as the base level of support for the next version of their apps after iOS 7 is released. Leaving the iPhone 5 out of it (it's not exactly Cordova's fault that BB hasn't made more phones on BB10), Apple is clearly expecting that most people will be on iOS 7 in a quick hurry given previous uptake rates on iOS 6. Keep in mind that one can't support old platforms forever. Sooner or later Cordova will be forced to drop support for iOS 5 and 6 at some point, too, if only because that's all Apple supports. The same applies for BB. If support in Cordova was contingent on BB10 getting to the playbook, one can hardly expect that Cordova will magically be able to support the playbook without BB10. (Personally, I suspect this means that the current iteration of playbook is dead, dead, dead, and that, assuming BB even wants to continue in the tablet space, a new device will be released instead.) On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Gord Tanner wrote: > I am just a little annoyed because of the promise that we would get > PlayBook support with the big BlackBerry 10 rewrite that was done. The > promise was we were just shelving the Java Phone OS code and cleaning up > things for PlayBook and BlackBerry 10. > > I hope that the official support for BlackBerry 10 isn't thrown out as > quickly as PlayBook support was as soon as BlackBerry 11 is released. > > Like I said in a previous email, we went from supporting every blackberry > device in cordova to supporting only 2 devices (Z10 and Q10). > > Would the community be as accepting if we said Cordova only supported iOS7 > on the iPhone5? > > -- ___ Kerri Shotts photoKandy Studios, LLC On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/ Social Media: Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/ Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts Apps on the Apple Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828 Books: http://www.packtpub.com/phonegap-2-mobile-application-hotshot/book http://www.packtpub.com/phonegap-social-app-development/book
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
doubtful Gord, I think the promise of PlayBook support alongside BlackBerry10 Support was contingent on porting BB10 to the playbook. My understanding is that this is considered infeasible due to the ram requirements of BB10. One way or another no one is currently stepping up to the plate to maintain BBOS and PlayBook. - Lorin On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Gord Tanner wrote: > I am just a little annoyed because of the promise that we would get > PlayBook support with the big BlackBerry 10 rewrite that was done. The > promise was we were just shelving the Java Phone OS code and cleaning up > things for PlayBook and BlackBerry 10. > > I hope that the official support for BlackBerry 10 isn't thrown out as > quickly as PlayBook support was as soon as BlackBerry 11 is released. > > Like I said in a previous email, we went from supporting every blackberry > device in cordova to supporting only 2 devices (Z10 and Q10). > > Would the community be as accepting if we said Cordova only supported iOS7 > on the iPhone5? > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > > I think, or at least thought, that is what Lorin meant. > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Anis KADRI > wrote: > > > "Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be > > interested > > > in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer > >wrote: > > > > > >> Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported > > platform. > > >> > > >> After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few > > points > > >> came up: > > >> > > >> 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform > > >> 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by > > >> interest or number of devices > > >> 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards > BBOS > > >> instead, and that is unlikely to happen. > > >> > > >> Without further support for the platform, and with that support being > > >> poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from > > Cordova. > > >> > > >> > > >> - Lorin > > >> > > >
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
I am just a little annoyed because of the promise that we would get PlayBook support with the big BlackBerry 10 rewrite that was done. The promise was we were just shelving the Java Phone OS code and cleaning up things for PlayBook and BlackBerry 10. I hope that the official support for BlackBerry 10 isn't thrown out as quickly as PlayBook support was as soon as BlackBerry 11 is released. Like I said in a previous email, we went from supporting every blackberry device in cordova to supporting only 2 devices (Z10 and Q10). Would the community be as accepting if we said Cordova only supported iOS7 on the iPhone5? On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > I think, or at least thought, that is what Lorin meant. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > > "Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be > interested > > in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer >wrote: > > > >> Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported > platform. > >> > >> After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few > points > >> came up: > >> > >> 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform > >> 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by > >> interest or number of devices > >> 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS > >> instead, and that is unlikely to happen. > >> > >> Without further support for the platform, and with that support being > >> poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from > Cordova. > >> > >> > >> - Lorin > >> >
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
yes, that's exactly what I meant. I'm not going to go deleting code to remove all history of playbook. It will be no longer released as part of Cordova in future releases. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > I think, or at least thought, that is what Lorin meant. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > > "Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be > interested > > in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer >wrote: > > > >> Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported > platform. > >> > >> After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few > points > >> came up: > >> > >> 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform > >> 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by > >> interest or number of devices > >> 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS > >> instead, and that is unlikely to happen. > >> > >> Without further support for the platform, and with that support being > >> poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from > Cordova. > >> > >> > >> - Lorin > >> >
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
I think, or at least thought, that is what Lorin meant. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > "Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be interested > in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer wrote: > >> Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported platform. >> >> After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few points >> came up: >> >> 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform >> 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by >> interest or number of devices >> 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS >> instead, and that is unlikely to happen. >> >> Without further support for the platform, and with that support being >> poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from Cordova. >> >> >> - Lorin >>
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
Well, we should obviously not go purging the source, but I think that if it isn't actively being maintained or tested, then it should be included in releases and given new version numbers. Unless there is anyone interested in maintaining it, I think the best we can do for users is signal the last well maintained release version. -Michal On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > "Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be interested > in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer >wrote: > > > Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported > platform. > > > > After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few > points > > came up: > > > > 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform > > 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by > > interest or number of devices > > 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS > > instead, and that is unlikely to happen. > > > > Without further support for the platform, and with that support being > > poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from > Cordova. > > > > > > - Lorin > > >
Re: cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
"Remove" ? No! Just leave the source in there. Somebody might be interested in it. We can stop shipping it though if we are still doing it. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lorin Beer wrote: > Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported platform. > > After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few points > came up: > > 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform > 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by > interest or number of devices > 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS > instead, and that is unlikely to happen. > > Without further support for the platform, and with that support being > poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from Cordova. > > > - Lorin >
cordova-playbook 'deprecation'
Scare-quotes due to playbook never being an officially supported platform. After discussing playbook with Bryan and Jeff from BlackBerry, a few points came up: 1. BB10 won't be coming to the PlayBook platform 2. The work required to bring it up to 3.0 spec is not justified by interest or number of devices 3. Many would rather see any effort directed to Playbook go towards BBOS instead, and that is unlikely to happen. Without further support for the platform, and with that support being poorly justified, I suggest the Playbook platform be removed from Cordova. - Lorin
